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<blockquote data-quote="Fishalt" data-source="post: 122934" data-attributes="member: 228"><p>Actually, it mostly comes from Aquinas. Who to be fair to him was a very good philosopher. But not even he could make a strong case for the existence of an omnipotent God. And yes, morality is complicated, and whether universal compassion is itself morally justified balanced against something like justice is more complicated still. Should a child rapist and murderer, who is suffering in Jail, be dispensed infinite compassion as a consequence of their experience of suffering? The Buddhists would tell you yes. I'm not sure if I agree with them.</p><p></p><p>Yes, morality is a construct. Pain is not, however. My moral code is quite simple; I help people I believe are worthy of help, and this does come from a place that is authentic and genuine. For example, when I do yard work for my elderly neighbour at no cost, because her adult children are selfish pieces of shit who do nothing for her whatsoever, I am doing this knowing I won't be paid, and I do it without expectation of reward or punishment for having done so at the end of my life. I do it because I don't want her to be socially embarrassed. I do it quite simply because it is a good thing to do. And this is more work than you think. I'm doing this in Australia. In summer. Not the gentle clime of Ireland.</p><p></p><p>I'm not sure if I've ever met a Christian who didn't simply use the faith as a means of personal abrogation and absolution. It's a means of outsourcing personal culpability and blame. It's a very easy thing to throw one's hands up and say, 'Well, I fucked up, but we're all sinners. and God loves me anyway, so long as I recognize that I'm a piece of shit and apologize, I'm doing my bit, and I'm going to paradise'. "God's in control", "Sky daddy will take care of it" Yada Yada. If anything, Christianity facilitates unconscionable behaviour. This takes no courage. Christians purport to have high moral standards, but in my experience, this does translate into any meaningful action. Frankly I can't imagine you doing anything to help anyone, Tiger. Perhaps family members, and friends. But not beyond that.</p><p></p><p>Moral Law cannot ever be objective, and I certainly don't want people such as yourself defining what that might be.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fishalt, post: 122934, member: 228"] Actually, it mostly comes from Aquinas. Who to be fair to him was a very good philosopher. But not even he could make a strong case for the existence of an omnipotent God. And yes, morality is complicated, and whether universal compassion is itself morally justified balanced against something like justice is more complicated still. Should a child rapist and murderer, who is suffering in Jail, be dispensed infinite compassion as a consequence of their experience of suffering? The Buddhists would tell you yes. I'm not sure if I agree with them. Yes, morality is a construct. Pain is not, however. My moral code is quite simple; I help people I believe are worthy of help, and this does come from a place that is authentic and genuine. For example, when I do yard work for my elderly neighbour at no cost, because her adult children are selfish pieces of shit who do nothing for her whatsoever, I am doing this knowing I won't be paid, and I do it without expectation of reward or punishment for having done so at the end of my life. I do it because I don't want her to be socially embarrassed. I do it quite simply because it is a good thing to do. And this is more work than you think. I'm doing this in Australia. In summer. Not the gentle clime of Ireland. I'm not sure if I've ever met a Christian who didn't simply use the faith as a means of personal abrogation and absolution. It's a means of outsourcing personal culpability and blame. It's a very easy thing to throw one's hands up and say, 'Well, I fucked up, but we're all sinners. and God loves me anyway, so long as I recognize that I'm a piece of shit and apologize, I'm doing my bit, and I'm going to paradise'. "God's in control", "Sky daddy will take care of it" Yada Yada. If anything, Christianity facilitates unconscionable behaviour. This takes no courage. Christians purport to have high moral standards, but in my experience, this does translate into any meaningful action. Frankly I can't imagine you doing anything to help anyone, Tiger. Perhaps family members, and friends. But not beyond that. Moral Law cannot ever be objective, and I certainly don't want people such as yourself defining what that might be. [/QUOTE]
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