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<blockquote data-quote="Tiger" data-source="post: 122973" data-attributes="member: 353"><p>Oh look, the ‘ex-proddy’ jumping in bed with the atheists. </p><p></p><p>It’s not the quantity of Catholics that matters—it’s the quality of their convictions. Throughout history, the greatest movements were driven by dedicated minorities, not apathetic majorities. The Apostles didn’t wait for a supermajority before evangelizing the Roman Empire. Why should Catholic nationalists sit on their hands waiting for modern Ireland to come to its senses?</p><p></p><p>Secondly, you claim that organizing politically around Catholicism is “politically foolish.” Well, let me remind you that so is organizing around soulless secularism, which has given us a cultural wasteland where Irish heritage is reduced to leprechaun kitsch and economic servitude to Brussels. Politically foolish is pretending that a nation stripped of its spiritual foundation can sustain any meaningful identity. Your proddy roots are sticking out for all to see. </p><p></p><p>Now, as for Sands, Clarke, and De Valera not being “Catholic nationalists”—let’s clarify. You’re playing semantics. They may not have worn “Catholic Nationalist” on their sleeves, but their faith was the bedrock of their values and the wellspring of their strength. Sands explicitly framed his sacrifice in spiritual terms, comparing himself to Christ. Pearse called the 1916 Rising a spiritual resurrection. Clarke endured decades of British prisons sustained by a deep Catholic faith. And De Valera? The man was guided by Catholic social teaching in shaping Ireland’s constitution.</p><p></p><p>If your argument is that their nationalism wasn’t exclusively Catholic, fine. But to say their Catholicism wasn’t integral to their vision of Ireland is to rewrite history. The Ireland they fought for—a free, united, and culturally rich Ireland—was inseparable from its Catholic ethos.</p><p></p><p>So, let me ask you this: if Catholicism was so irrelevant to these leaders, where are the atheist nationalists of equal stature today? Where is the Pearse, the Sands, or even the De Valera of godless Ireland? I’ll tell you—they don’t exist. A nation without faith is a nation without greatness.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tiger, post: 122973, member: 353"] Oh look, the ‘ex-proddy’ jumping in bed with the atheists. It’s not the quantity of Catholics that matters—it’s the quality of their convictions. Throughout history, the greatest movements were driven by dedicated minorities, not apathetic majorities. The Apostles didn’t wait for a supermajority before evangelizing the Roman Empire. Why should Catholic nationalists sit on their hands waiting for modern Ireland to come to its senses? Secondly, you claim that organizing politically around Catholicism is “politically foolish.” Well, let me remind you that so is organizing around soulless secularism, which has given us a cultural wasteland where Irish heritage is reduced to leprechaun kitsch and economic servitude to Brussels. Politically foolish is pretending that a nation stripped of its spiritual foundation can sustain any meaningful identity. Your proddy roots are sticking out for all to see. Now, as for Sands, Clarke, and De Valera not being “Catholic nationalists”—let’s clarify. You’re playing semantics. They may not have worn “Catholic Nationalist” on their sleeves, but their faith was the bedrock of their values and the wellspring of their strength. Sands explicitly framed his sacrifice in spiritual terms, comparing himself to Christ. Pearse called the 1916 Rising a spiritual resurrection. Clarke endured decades of British prisons sustained by a deep Catholic faith. And De Valera? The man was guided by Catholic social teaching in shaping Ireland’s constitution. If your argument is that their nationalism wasn’t exclusively Catholic, fine. But to say their Catholicism wasn’t integral to their vision of Ireland is to rewrite history. The Ireland they fought for—a free, united, and culturally rich Ireland—was inseparable from its Catholic ethos. So, let me ask you this: if Catholicism was so irrelevant to these leaders, where are the atheist nationalists of equal stature today? Where is the Pearse, the Sands, or even the De Valera of godless Ireland? I’ll tell you—they don’t exist. A nation without faith is a nation without greatness. [/QUOTE]
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