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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tiger" data-source="post: 123057" data-attributes="member: 353">Myles, First off, using childish terms like 'Sky Daddy' doesn’t make you sound clever—it just makes you sound like you’re misquoting Richard Dawkins and are trying to parrot his tired 'Sky Fairy' line from twenty odd years ago. It’s a lazy, shallow way to dismiss something that has shaped countless civilizations and brought about significant good in the world. You might want to rethink the 'clever' insults before you dig yourself into a deeper hole. It makes you sound like poorly educated idiot. Now, as for your point about good morals without belief in God—sure, you can have a qualitative level of morals without belief in God, but they’ll be subjective and fluid, with no grounding in any absolute truth. Morality without a transcendent standard is like a ship with no anchor. It drifts wherever the cultural winds blow. As for the idea that religion has done bad things to women—yes, we can acknowledge that abuses have occurred. But that doesn’t negate the fact that Christianity, for example, has been one of the greatest forces for elevating the dignity of women throughout history, far more than any secular system.And when you ask why a man needs to listen to 'sermons about a fella beating people with sticks' to raise a daughter with respect, you're missing the point entirely. The lesson isn't about 'beating people'—it’s about understanding that the moral and spiritual order of the universe is grounded in God. True respect, self-worth, and moral integrity come from a strong foundation, not from the ever-shifting sands of modern secular thought. If you want to raise a daughter with respect for herself, you need more than just the whims of the day—you need a strong, unchanging moral framework, something Christianity offers that your secular 'morality' can’t provide.</blockquote>

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