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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fishalt" data-source="post: 123292" data-attributes="member: 228">Rolf, you, as a distant foreigner, you haven’t a clue what has lead to the social phenomenon that I have talked about. Also, let’s address the casual slur, “stale Mick farts”. Not only does this betray a deep disdain for Irish people, but it shows you’ve got no business involving yourself in any conversation about Irish nationalism (showing that I'm correct in thinking that you are bit of cunt). You don’t just sound out of touch—you sound like someone who actively despises the country you claim to care about. A nationalist? Hardly. You’re just another wannabe pseudo nationalist sneering down your nose at the people whose culture you neither respect nor understand. The last thing Ireland needs is your ideals or your involvement.You really are a very silly, angry old man Tiger. First up, let me iterate that again, I don't respect your opinion as to what makes a nationalist and what doesn't. I don't have disdain for the Irish people. They're great. That's why I'm here. What you really mean is that only Catholics can be Irish, and that anybody who doesn't agree with this assessment is a traitor to the Irish. Which is about the sort of thing I'd expect a frothing ideologue such as yourself to say, think and believe.Your fixation on economics as the sole cause of Ireland’s social collapse is a lazy excuse to dodge the real issue: moral and cultural decay. Yes, Japan is conservative and socially cohesive, but that’s because they’ve held on to their traditions and sense of national identity—unlike modern Ireland, which has gutted itself by trading Catholic values for secular hedonism and consumerism. You’ve never set foot Ireland, what the fuck do you know. You can’t even compare the two. Ireland’s problem isn’t a lack of money; it’s a lack of soul. And that, my friend, is on the shoulders of people like you who peddle a Godless worldview while pretending that economics alone can fix what’s broken.I don't entirely disagree with this. Moral and cultural decay is a problem that needs to be addressed. Unlike yourself, I am not deranged, vain and self-righteous enough to pretend that I, saviour of the world and its peoples, know how to fix it all with an off-the-wall religious-based solution. What I can tell you is that Catholicism can't.  This should be obvious. It's had a fair shot by now, especially in Ireland--wouldn't you agree? National Identity isn't as simple as religious subscription. You've already made this point for me.  You are neither exceptional nor unusual. Fairly Atypical. Another petty, Boomer-brained Zealot with a terminal case of main character syndrome. Inferior minds, like inferior artists, always know whose fault it all is.Your argument about young Irish adults staying at home and avoiding families reeks of condescension. It’s not housing prices alone that keep them from growing up; it’s the fact that the modern atheist mindset has sold them a lie. They’ve been told that personal pleasure is paramount, that family is a burden, and that commitment is optional. This has led to a nation of perpetual adolescents, obsessed with escapism and unwilling to embrace adulthood. You’re defending a system that’s robbed an entire generation of direction and purpose. Congratulations on playing your part in creating it.I see. How exactly do you expect them to 'grow up' when for the majority of them homeownership is likely to remain out-of-reach forever, marriage as institution has failed due to progressive iterations of feminism, there is no job or business confidence, and rent and utility prices are so astronomical that after covering the essentials of existence they have virtually nothing liquid remaining to actually enjoy life? Is that how you spent your early twenties and thirties--working to eat and keep the lights on? I highly doubt it.  More to the point, why should you even expect them to engage in higher responsibility or frankly to give a fuck about anything? If you're never going to be able to secure a stable future anyway, why not simply resort to base consumerism and Hedonism? Take what you can and give nothing back. That's the prevailing attitude when socioeconomics are as they currently are in not just Ireland, but my country, the UK, and America. You want them to embrace all the downside of becoming an adult with none of the upside. Sounds like a shitty deal, even from where I stand. I'm not saying I agree with it. But you'd have to be you to fail to understand how it happens. You try to paint Catholic nationalism as outdated, but the truth is, you’ve got no vision, no victories, and no plan. Just empty rhetoric and a lot of excuses. You mock the Church, yet it’s the only institution that ever gave Ireland its moral backbone. Without it, we’re left with your version of “nationalism,” which is nothing but intellectual masturbation dressed up as policy. Go ahead, plant your trees, but don’t pretend you’re building a future for Ireland. The only thing you’re growing is irrelevance.Even if I don't, how does this change the fact Catholic Nationalism isn't the solution? To be clear, I'm not advocating for the dissolution of Catholic Nationalism. There are some positive aspects to it. But it must never be the forefront of the Nationalist movement broadly speaking--and thankfully, never will be. The amount of people in Ireland who want people like you running the opposition could scarcely pack a street corner. You are toxic waste in terms of PR.The difference between you and me, Tiger is that you are a petty, would-be tyrant who seeks ownership and direction of what nationalism is. Your version of Nationalism is essentially theocracy. My version of Nationalism is a confederacy.</blockquote>

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