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<blockquote data-quote="Ole Ror&#039;" data-source="post: 129768"><p>Analyzing AN2's arguments requires a careful look at the common themes within white supremacist doctrine and dogma. Here's my assessment:</p><p></p><p><strong>AN2's Arguments and Their Relationship to White Supremacist Doctrine:</strong></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Rehabilitating National Socialism:</strong><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">This is a common tactic among neo-Nazis and white supremacists. They often attempt to separate the "positive" aspects of National Socialism (e.g., economic policies, perceived sense of national unity) from its genocidal aspects.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">This allows them to present a more palatable version of the ideology to potential recruits.</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Emphasis on "Survival" and "Extinction":</strong><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The idea that white people are facing an existential threat of "extinction" due to immigration and demographic change is a core tenet of white supremacist ideology. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">AN2's focus on "survival" aligns with this narrative.</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Focus on Economic Success:</strong><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The argument that National Socialism led to economic success in Germany is often used to justify the ideology, ignoring the exploitative and violent nature of the regime.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">White supremacists often attempt to highlight the good aspects of the nazi regime, whilst ignoring the bad. </li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Rejection of "Atrocity Focus":</strong><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The desire to move beyond the focus on the Holocaust and other atrocities is a common tactic among those seeking to minimize or deny the crimes of National Socialism.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">This is a form of historical revisionism.</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>"Alternative Visions" and Esoteric Influences:</strong><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The mention of Heinrich Himmler and Julius Evola points to the influence of esoteric and occult ideas within certain segments of the far-right.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">These ideas are often used to create a sense of elitism and justify authoritarianism.</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>German Chauvinism vs. "White Tribe":</strong><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The attempt to reconcile German chauvinism with a broader "white tribe" identity is a common struggle within white supremacist circles.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Some seek to emphasize a pan-European or "Aryan" identity, while others maintain a more nationalistic focus.</li> </ul></li> </ul><p><strong>Conclusion:</strong></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">AN2's arguments are not original. They draw heavily from well-established white supremacist doctrines and talking points.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The attempts to rehabilitate National Socialism, emphasize "survival," minimize atrocities, and explore esoteric influences are all hallmarks of this ideology.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The use of the term "indigenous demographic decline" is a common white nationalist term.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">It is important to remember that these arguments are dangerous and should be challenged.</li> </ul><p>In essence, AN2 is employing familiar strategies used by white supremacists to promote their ideology, which is to attempt to make it more acceptable to a wider audience.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ole Ror', post: 129768"] Analyzing AN2's arguments requires a careful look at the common themes within white supremacist doctrine and dogma. Here's my assessment: [B]AN2's Arguments and Their Relationship to White Supremacist Doctrine:[/B] [LIST] [*][B]Rehabilitating National Socialism:[/B] [LIST] [*]This is a common tactic among neo-Nazis and white supremacists. They often attempt to separate the "positive" aspects of National Socialism (e.g., economic policies, perceived sense of national unity) from its genocidal aspects. [*]This allows them to present a more palatable version of the ideology to potential recruits. [/LIST] [*][B]Emphasis on "Survival" and "Extinction":[/B] [LIST] [*]The idea that white people are facing an existential threat of "extinction" due to immigration and demographic change is a core tenet of white supremacist ideology. [*]AN2's focus on "survival" aligns with this narrative. [/LIST] [*][B]Focus on Economic Success:[/B] [LIST] [*]The argument that National Socialism led to economic success in Germany is often used to justify the ideology, ignoring the exploitative and violent nature of the regime. [*]White supremacists often attempt to highlight the good aspects of the nazi regime, whilst ignoring the bad. [/LIST] [*][B]Rejection of "Atrocity Focus":[/B] [LIST] [*]The desire to move beyond the focus on the Holocaust and other atrocities is a common tactic among those seeking to minimize or deny the crimes of National Socialism. [*]This is a form of historical revisionism. [/LIST] [*][B]"Alternative Visions" and Esoteric Influences:[/B] [LIST] [*]The mention of Heinrich Himmler and Julius Evola points to the influence of esoteric and occult ideas within certain segments of the far-right. [*]These ideas are often used to create a sense of elitism and justify authoritarianism. [/LIST] [*][B]German Chauvinism vs. "White Tribe":[/B] [LIST] [*]The attempt to reconcile German chauvinism with a broader "white tribe" identity is a common struggle within white supremacist circles. [*]Some seek to emphasize a pan-European or "Aryan" identity, while others maintain a more nationalistic focus. [/LIST] [/LIST] [B]Conclusion:[/B] [LIST] [*]AN2's arguments are not original. They draw heavily from well-established white supremacist doctrines and talking points. [*]The attempts to rehabilitate National Socialism, emphasize "survival," minimize atrocities, and explore esoteric influences are all hallmarks of this ideology. [*]The use of the term "indigenous demographic decline" is a common white nationalist term. [*]It is important to remember that these arguments are dangerous and should be challenged. [/LIST] In essence, AN2 is employing familiar strategies used by white supremacists to promote their ideology, which is to attempt to make it more acceptable to a wider audience. [/QUOTE]
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