Longterm Protest at IPAS centre in Rosslare Harbour Co. Wexford

[scolairebocht]

52.250706, -6.340813 (The protest is manned at the back of the building, on the main road to the Ferry Terminal, near The Dock Boutique Hotel.)

For 450 days now, many residents of Rosslare Harbour have been protesting the taking over of their nursing home, formerly the Great Southern Hotel and then St Helen's Hotel, to make an IPAS, migrant, centre.

Instead of the powers that be responding to this criticism, the opposite has happened. The government is now set to create three more IPAS centres in this small town/village, including the two buildings either side of the modern long windows of the former hotel in this picture, and a further B and B up the street. In otherwords the government is creating a whole new international town out of their town, entirely without planning permission and in the teeth of fierce local opposition.

Here is a short clip of the scene:

by Brian Nugent, http://www.orwellianireland.com

 

[Declan]

What are the numbers of protesters. Probably only a couple

 

[scolairebocht]

Only one manning it now, but to keep a thing like that going they must have quite a healthy roster of protestors. They are hoping for a national protest here on the 22nd Feb.

Generally though they don't welcome publicity or do interviews, ever since a news organisation bracketed them with the 'far right' or 'racist' protestors in Dublin (thats my description of what I suspect are their sentiments).

 

[Declan]

It sounds like a lost cause and waste of time then. Let them be non racists

 

[scolairebocht]

Well it takes all types, and, while I am only speculating, there maybe three points here:
1) It takes a while for people to properly detox from RTE, for sometime some will still believe their lies (maybe especially slightly older people?)
2) Sometimes you get a kind of a class thing, an upper middle class type person not wanting to associate with Dublin 'ruffians' or whatever.
3) All of these groups are massively infiltrated, and one of the things these agents do is simply give groups bad advice. A protest needs all the publicity it can get at all times, limiting that, from whatever quarter, is generally just bad advice.

But yes these protests are about race, a defence of the Irish one, because we are being systematically targetted for replacement, pure and simple. But not everybody understands that unfortunately...

 

[AN2]

Well it takes all types, and, while I am only speculating, there maybe three points here:
1) It takes a while for people to properly detox from RTE, for sometime some will still believe their lies (maybe especially slightly older people?)
2) Sometimes you get a kind of a class thing, an upper middle class type person not wanting to associate with Dublin 'ruffians' or whatever.
3) All of these groups are massively infiltrated, and one of the things these agents do is simply give groups bad advice. A protest needs all the publicity it can get at all times, limiting that, from whatever quarter, is generally just bad advice.

But yes these protests are about race, a defence of the Irish one, because we are being systematically targetted for replacement, pure and simple. But not everybody understands that unfortunately...

Is that happening to any other race?

 

[scolairebocht]

Well in Ireland anyway its the Irish race been targetted, and probably the indigenous races in most of Europe.

 

[Declan]

It is happening to the races that count. Primative races can be left alone as they are not using up any great amounts of energy and minerals etc

 

[AN2]

Well in Ireland anyway its the Irish race been targetted, and probably the indigenous races in most of Europe.

You're offending my high verbal IQ It's being

So is there anywhere else that it's happening, outside of Europe?

Do the indigenous races of Europe have anything in common other than they're indigenous to the same continent? Are the Irish and Scottish, for example, distinct and separate races?

 

[scolairebocht]

Yes they are, as was demonstrated in the 1640s a few decades after many Scots came here. Yes your right it should be 'being'.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

You're offending my high verbal IQ It's being

Could you please stop your shyte?

 

[AN2]

Yes they are, as was demonstrated in the 1640s a few decades after many Scots came here. Yes your right it should be 'being'.

If that's an answer to the question of the Irish and Scottish being distinct and separate races then I don't find it compelling

Plus it's only an answer to one of the three questions I asked you

 

[scolairebocht]

Well at the beginning of the 1641 rebellion, many Irish thought the Scots would join with them, instead the Scots sent over an army to protect their recent immigrants and that sparked about 400 years of discord between the two races in Ulster. So I think it does illustrate they are different races.

I think maybe we are straying a bit off the subject matter here anyway...

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

I think maybe we are straying a bit off the subject matter here anyway...

That's all he endeavours to do. Don't engage with him Bocht.

 

[AN2]

Well at the beginning of the 1641 rebellion, many Irish thought the Scots would join with them, instead the Scots sent over an army to protect their recent immigrants and that sparked about 400 years of discord between the two races in Ulster. So I think it does illustrate they are different races.

I think maybe we are straying a bit off the subject matter here anyway...

Fair enough. Are you prepared to debate this elsewhere?

In fact, I would like to debate you on three things - this, your claim of proof for your God and your claim that aliens don't exist.

R u up to it?

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Give it a rest Electricity.

 

[scolairebocht]

I apologise, but I genuinely don't have the time for too involved a discussion, especially where you ask questions and demand answers and it goes on like that repeatedly.

I think I have covered all that needs to be said about race above, as regards the Proof of God's Existence I have said all I can about it here: http://www.orwellianireland.com/proofs.pdf and the alien thing is too involved to get into right now. But I absolutely do not believe in the existence of extra terrestrial aliens at all, and I will not be changing that view no matter what hoaxes are coming the track on that subject.

 

[AN2]

Give it a rest Electricity.

Could you stop spamming the thread, you attention seeking twat

Let @scolairebocht answer my request for a debate challenge. If he says no then I'll leave it at that (and we'll all know that he's a coward)

 

[AN2]

I apologise, but I genuinely don't have the time for too involved a discussion, especially where you ask questions and demand answers and it goes on like that repeatedly.

I think I have covered all that needs to be said about race above, as regards the Proof of God's Existence I have said all I can about it here: http://www.orwellianireland.com/proofs.pdf and the alien thing is too involved to get into right now. But I absolutely do not believe in the existence of extra terrestrial aliens at all, and I will not be changing that view no matter what hoaxes are coming the track on that subject.

Yes or no

 

[scolairebocht]

Sure: Is there such at thing as the Irish race and an attempt now to replace the Irish race and should we oppose it? Yes.
Does God exist? Yes.
Do extra terrestrial aliens exist? No.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Could you stop spamming the thread, you attention seeking twat

Its you who's spamming. This is a thread about a protest in Rosslare.

Now get the fu*k off of it.

 

[AN2]

Sure: Is there such at thing as the Irish race and an attempt now to replace the Irish race and should we oppose it? Yes.
Does God exist? Yes.
Do extra terrestrial aliens exist? No.

You have (correctly IMO) said that this isn't the thread for it. I'm asking you if you will engage in a debate elsewhere. I could start a new thread, for example

 

[AN2]

Could you please stop your shyte?

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

That thing won't play Sparky

(I'm probably lucky it won't)

 

[it_is_what_it_is]

I was down at some point a long while back to talk to the women there, at the time, didn't see a man, not that they weren't around but the women were driving it, which is a massive benefit. Fair play to them. They have been at that for a long time, and should be supported. The issue is that such should have been helped long ago, like shutting down the port when it would have made an impact regards such a protest.

 

[Declan]

I heard they are like the people in Tipp, they are not wacist and do not want outsiders coming in.

The likes of O Dwyer has been told to leave some places has he not??

 

[it_is_what_it_is]

I heard they are like the people in Tipp, they are not wacist and do not want outsiders coming in.

The likes of O Dwyer has been told to leave some places has he not??

A hundred precent, they are afraid of being targeted with the notions of being called racist or whatever nonsense, I got that from them immediately when i went down to say hello. Which is why the women directed approach is a problem in itself without the masculine side of things regards such, to balance things out, where there are not many a man to put them selves forward and directing them regards such from the area, or in general across the country. It is a huge issue. Phil is too direct in ways, where the men of said area X are at faggit levels regards standing up for their own.

It is very hard to step into an area and put your foot down and say how things are without the men in the area to back you up in turn. I don't know how to fix this regards trying to wake people up in an area, before it is too late. It is a hard one. The men of Ireland are weak.

 

[Neptune]

A hundred precent, they are afraid of being targeted with the notions of being called racist or whatever nonsense, I got that from them immediately when i went down to say hello. Which is why the women directed approach is a problem in itself without the masculine side of things regards such, to balance things out, where there are not many a man to put them selves forward and directing them regards such from the area, or in general across the country. It is a huge issue. Phil is too direct in ways, where the men of said area X are at faggit levels regards standing up for their own.

It is very hard to step into an area and put your foot down and say how things are without the men in the area to back you up in turn. I don't know how to fix this regards trying to wake people up in an area, before it is too late. It is a hard one. The men of Ireland are weak.

Coolock approach is only way, but you need the numbers and will of the people,

 

[it_is_what_it_is]

Coolock approach is only way, but you need the numbers and will of the people,

A hundred percent, but when talking about the people of coolock, you are talking about people from places like darndale or similar. These are people that have been under the attack of the system for decades and are rough and ready as default, there are similar places in finglas, tallaght or blanch. The issue being that so many others in dublin, as example, are too comfortable for their own good, and are not fundamentalist enough regards what needs to be done for the good of the whole, as in putting the Irish people first above your own comforts, not that such was any different a hundred years ago regards the basics of waking people up. Things need to get worse before they can get better from what I have seen. It is a hard one, and I do not have an answer other then it needs to get worse for people to wake up and fight back.

 

[Declan]

A hundred plus years ago, everyone was like the people of Darndale, not so today.

 

[it_is_what_it_is]

A hundred plus years ago, everyone was like the people of Darndale, not so today.

I disagree, people are that which they know is related to what is going on in the day they exist. People a hundred years ago did not have any of the basic's that we are privileged today regards having. If you do not know of such, such is not relevant regards comparison. The majority of the Irish a hundred years ago were as thick and selfish as they are today. The difference of many, is that men were allowed to be men and people knew their place in an Irish society that was not being put under an onslaught of mentally ill shite, where basic shit like a man is somehow a women etc...

Men like my grandfather were hated by many an Irish man for trying to upend the path the Irish were under a hundred years ago, most were happy to be under the brit boot at the time. Any group that tries to go against the current grain will always take the hit regards sticking their heads above the parapet. The brits upended themselves in the murder of the Irish patriots of the time that got the blood of the Irish boiling eventually, otherwise they would likely have not backed the struggle then in the end. We have to be realistic regards who we are talking about, where I know that the Irish are as flawed as many a western people out there, we need proper leaders to direct and who are willing to sacrifice. Such is lacking today.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Men like my grandfather were hated by many an Irish man for trying to upend the path the Irish were under a hundred years ago.

Was your grandda in the Old IRA Ivan?

 

[it_is_what_it_is]

Was your grandda in the Old IRA Ivan?

He was, and a sinn fein elected councilor in 1920, I have a shell casing from the funeral when the RA fired the gun shots over his grave. If he was alive today, I would imagine him as gunning for every one of the supposed sinn fein cunt supposed leaders in the now, that are traitors of the Irish people today. Whatever about the fine gael fine failures, we know what they are about, they do not hide the fact of what they are such. The worst cunts that are there today are the shinners regards the supposed leadership, not the fools following on, where they are fools. The current leadership are scum, who piss on the deaths and suffering of those that upended the brits.

I cannot forgive the scum that have taken the name of a party that had so many sacrifices regards those back in the day. I annoys me how retarded people are, where at the same time, I know how retarded the plebs are. Again the current corrupt and filth that are leading the supposed current notions of sinn fein are traitorous filth, bought and paid for a long time ago. The idea that they are pulling from the actions of men like my grandfather is wholly despicable.