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<blockquote data-quote="Tiger" data-source="post: 125512" data-attributes="member: 353"><p>[USER=3556]@AN2[/USER] </p><p></p><p>James, it’s clear that you are utterly clueless on the subject of evolution. Quite frankly it’s getting boring responding to your childish comments. You have never contributed a single worthwhile post to this discussion. </p><p></p><p>You need to raise your game to earn any kind of response from me. It’s getting boring having a one sided discussion. </p><p></p><p>You’re assertion that the evolution of the bacterial flagellum is a settled matter reveals a profound ignorance of the subject at hand. If the question had been resolved, there would be no mystery surrounding it—and yet, the fact that you think it’s “proven” exposes the shallowness of your understanding. </p><p></p><p>The evolutionary origins of the flagellum remain one of the great unsolved puzzles in biology, and a Nobel Prize awaits anyone who can provide a coherent, evidence-backed explanation. Yet, more than a century after Darwin's theory was proposed, not a single scientist has come close to claiming that prize. On the contrary, the more investigations are conducted, the clearer it becomes that we may never solve the problem, and the gap between evolutionary theory and biological reality only widens.</p><p></p><p>Nicholas J. Matzke, openly admitted that his hypothesis is highly speculative and entirely devoid of experimental proof. It’s fantasy. His conjectures join the fruitless endeavors of others like Howard Ochman, Milton Saier, and Kenneth Miller, who have all attempted—and failed—to provide a coherent explanation for how the flagellum, a marvel of interdependent complexity, could arise through blind evolutionary processes. Matzke’s stepwise model, which proposes that the flagellum evolved from simpler systems such as the Type III Secretion System (T3SS), is riddled with logical flaws and circular reasoning. Indeed, evidence suggests the T3SS may have devolved from the flagellum, not preceded it, exposing the hypothesis as a house of cards.</p><p></p><p>Such intellectual maneuvering underscores the desperation of modern evolutionary biology to uphold its materialistic dogma, even in the face of insurmountable biological complexity.</p><p></p><p>The bacterial flagellum remains a devastating rebuke to the claims of Darwinian gradualism. This molecular machine—a rotary motor composed of dozens of interdependent parts—ceases to function with the removal of even a single component. Evolutionary theory demands stepwise functionality at every stage, yet no one, from Matzke to Miller, has produced a shred of evidence to show how an incomplete flagellum could serve any useful purpose, let alone survive natural selection. Decades of laboratory experiments and computational modeling have yielded nothing but speculation, while fossil evidence for molecular systems like this is nonexistent. As Michael J. Behe aptly observed, the flagellum epitomizes irreducible complexity: a system that defies materialist explanations and points instead to intelligent causation. The ongoing failure to provide a satisfactory evolutionary account is not just a scientific shortcoming—it is a philosophical indictment of the reductionist worldview that so often masquerades as science</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tiger, post: 125512, member: 353"] [USER=3556]@AN2[/USER] James, it’s clear that you are utterly clueless on the subject of evolution. Quite frankly it’s getting boring responding to your childish comments. You have never contributed a single worthwhile post to this discussion. You need to raise your game to earn any kind of response from me. It’s getting boring having a one sided discussion. You’re assertion that the evolution of the bacterial flagellum is a settled matter reveals a profound ignorance of the subject at hand. If the question had been resolved, there would be no mystery surrounding it—and yet, the fact that you think it’s “proven” exposes the shallowness of your understanding. The evolutionary origins of the flagellum remain one of the great unsolved puzzles in biology, and a Nobel Prize awaits anyone who can provide a coherent, evidence-backed explanation. Yet, more than a century after Darwin's theory was proposed, not a single scientist has come close to claiming that prize. On the contrary, the more investigations are conducted, the clearer it becomes that we may never solve the problem, and the gap between evolutionary theory and biological reality only widens. Nicholas J. Matzke, openly admitted that his hypothesis is highly speculative and entirely devoid of experimental proof. It’s fantasy. His conjectures join the fruitless endeavors of others like Howard Ochman, Milton Saier, and Kenneth Miller, who have all attempted—and failed—to provide a coherent explanation for how the flagellum, a marvel of interdependent complexity, could arise through blind evolutionary processes. Matzke’s stepwise model, which proposes that the flagellum evolved from simpler systems such as the Type III Secretion System (T3SS), is riddled with logical flaws and circular reasoning. Indeed, evidence suggests the T3SS may have devolved from the flagellum, not preceded it, exposing the hypothesis as a house of cards. Such intellectual maneuvering underscores the desperation of modern evolutionary biology to uphold its materialistic dogma, even in the face of insurmountable biological complexity. The bacterial flagellum remains a devastating rebuke to the claims of Darwinian gradualism. This molecular machine—a rotary motor composed of dozens of interdependent parts—ceases to function with the removal of even a single component. Evolutionary theory demands stepwise functionality at every stage, yet no one, from Matzke to Miller, has produced a shred of evidence to show how an incomplete flagellum could serve any useful purpose, let alone survive natural selection. Decades of laboratory experiments and computational modeling have yielded nothing but speculation, while fossil evidence for molecular systems like this is nonexistent. As Michael J. Behe aptly observed, the flagellum epitomizes irreducible complexity: a system that defies materialist explanations and points instead to intelligent causation. The ongoing failure to provide a satisfactory evolutionary account is not just a scientific shortcoming—it is a philosophical indictment of the reductionist worldview that so often masquerades as science [/QUOTE]
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