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<blockquote data-quote="scolairebocht" data-source="post: 86423" data-attributes="member: 8"><p>From the first chapter of <a href="http://www.orwellianireland.com/proofs.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.orwellianireland.com/proofs.pdf</a> :</p><p></p><p>"Firstly we have the Jewish writer Philo (c.20BC-40AD) of Alexandria, who in writing about his Embassy to Gaius in c.39/40 AD relates this anecdote about Pilate, which captures a little bit of the tense atmosphere between Pilate and the Jews around the time of the crucifixion:</p><p></p><p>So while this non-Christian source does not mention Our Lord or the Apostles directly, nonetheless it clearly does corroborate for us the general atmosphere between the Jews and Pilate that the Bible claims existed in Jerusalem at that time. Meanwhile another ancient Jewish writer, Flavius Josephus (37-100 AD), an advisor to successive Roman Emperors, some of whose writings come to us from Arabic and some from Greek, does indeed corroborate the basic facts of the New Testament:</p><p></p><p></p><p>Turning now to Roman sources, Suetonius, an important Roman historian who lived from 69-75 to c.130 AD wrote this reference to the riot of Rome of c.49 AD during the reign of Emperor Claudius 41-54 AD: “As the Jews were making constant disturbances at the instigation of Chrestus, he expelled them from Rome,” and referring to the great fire in Rome in 64 AD he wrote: “Punishment by Nero was inflicted on the Christians, a class of men given to a new and mischievous superstition.”</p><p>Here we have a reference by another major influential Roman historian, Cornelius Tacitus (c.55-120 AD), describing the year 64 AD:</p><p></p><p>These two Roman historians, Tacitus and Suetonius, are among the really great historians of Rome whose writings are usually held as a gold standard with respect to whether or not various events really happened. This it seems is partly because of their diligent and honest research and writing and partly because they seemed to have access to a good quantity of written government records existing at that time in Rome. With respect to Suetonius it is accepted by all that he was ‘director of Imperial archives’ and he explicitly mentions reading letters from the early Emperors. Also Tacitus mentions a few times archives like this, for example:</p><p></p><p> and </p><p></p><p>That these archives must have been extensive we can see from the fact that the Romans normally did preserve copies of important documents, as Suetonius himself relates:</p><p></p><p>Bearing in mind then the correct dates these two historians usually have for events many years before their time, and the high political position and prestige both of those held in Rome, Tacitus was a Senator and Consul and Suetonius was the Emperor Hadrian’s secretary and also (too!) close to the Empress, and their many years diligent research into historical matters, leads us to safely assume that they consulted the very many written records that existed in the Imperial archives in Rome at that time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="scolairebocht, post: 86423, member: 8"] From the first chapter of [URL]http://www.orwellianireland.com/proofs.pdf[/URL] : "Firstly we have the Jewish writer Philo (c.20BC-40AD) of Alexandria, who in writing about his Embassy to Gaius in c.39/40 AD relates this anecdote about Pilate, which captures a little bit of the tense atmosphere between Pilate and the Jews around the time of the crucifixion: So while this non-Christian source does not mention Our Lord or the Apostles directly, nonetheless it clearly does corroborate for us the general atmosphere between the Jews and Pilate that the Bible claims existed in Jerusalem at that time. Meanwhile another ancient Jewish writer, Flavius Josephus (37-100 AD), an advisor to successive Roman Emperors, some of whose writings come to us from Arabic and some from Greek, does indeed corroborate the basic facts of the New Testament: Turning now to Roman sources, Suetonius, an important Roman historian who lived from 69-75 to c.130 AD wrote this reference to the riot of Rome of c.49 AD during the reign of Emperor Claudius 41-54 AD: “As the Jews were making constant disturbances at the instigation of Chrestus, he expelled them from Rome,” and referring to the great fire in Rome in 64 AD he wrote: “Punishment by Nero was inflicted on the Christians, a class of men given to a new and mischievous superstition.” Here we have a reference by another major influential Roman historian, Cornelius Tacitus (c.55-120 AD), describing the year 64 AD: These two Roman historians, Tacitus and Suetonius, are among the really great historians of Rome whose writings are usually held as a gold standard with respect to whether or not various events really happened. This it seems is partly because of their diligent and honest research and writing and partly because they seemed to have access to a good quantity of written government records existing at that time in Rome. With respect to Suetonius it is accepted by all that he was ‘director of Imperial archives’ and he explicitly mentions reading letters from the early Emperors. Also Tacitus mentions a few times archives like this, for example: and That these archives must have been extensive we can see from the fact that the Romans normally did preserve copies of important documents, as Suetonius himself relates: Bearing in mind then the correct dates these two historians usually have for events many years before their time, and the high political position and prestige both of those held in Rome, Tacitus was a Senator and Consul and Suetonius was the Emperor Hadrian’s secretary and also (too!) close to the Empress, and their many years diligent research into historical matters, leads us to safely assume that they consulted the very many written records that existed in the Imperial archives in Rome at that time. [/QUOTE]
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