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<blockquote data-quote="Fishalt" data-source="post: 94802" data-attributes="member: 228"><p>The only plausible argument from a creationist perspective that is coherent when it comes to this is that the creator designed life to fail--a kind of biological planned obsolescence type thing. From my perspective, I'd say that nature strives for equilibrium--which is why ecological overshoot is so interesting to me as a concept. Nature doesn't design organisms to be invincible, it designs them with interrelation and sometimes symbiosis in mind, subject to the laws of physics. A giraffe is by not a perfect design in terms of longevity, and if it were, this would actually be detrimental to the bioweb as a whole system. Nature isn't trying to make supermutants, it's making organisms well-enough to the point that they can send their genetic code into the future as an average in relation to every other organism operating in the environment. Ironically, a perfectly designed Giraffe is necessarily an imperfectly designed organism. We can see this arrangement repeating everywhere in the natural world.</p><p></p><p>It never ceases to amaze me how uninvolved with their local wildlife and plant life the average Christian ( or Muslim/Jewish) person is. I suspect this is because their holy texts teach them that plants and animals are simply here to serve mankind--a resource to be utilized, exploited and appropriated for our own ends and means. They never stop to consider that our continued existence is contingent upon the continuation of 'lower' lifeforms. For example, if Fungi disappeared from the Earth tomorrow so would plant life, and inevitably our species.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fishalt, post: 94802, member: 228"] The only plausible argument from a creationist perspective that is coherent when it comes to this is that the creator designed life to fail--a kind of biological planned obsolescence type thing. From my perspective, I'd say that nature strives for equilibrium--which is why ecological overshoot is so interesting to me as a concept. Nature doesn't design organisms to be invincible, it designs them with interrelation and sometimes symbiosis in mind, subject to the laws of physics. A giraffe is by not a perfect design in terms of longevity, and if it were, this would actually be detrimental to the bioweb as a whole system. Nature isn't trying to make supermutants, it's making organisms well-enough to the point that they can send their genetic code into the future as an average in relation to every other organism operating in the environment. Ironically, a perfectly designed Giraffe is necessarily an imperfectly designed organism. We can see this arrangement repeating everywhere in the natural world. It never ceases to amaze me how uninvolved with their local wildlife and plant life the average Christian ( or Muslim/Jewish) person is. I suspect this is because their holy texts teach them that plants and animals are simply here to serve mankind--a resource to be utilized, exploited and appropriated for our own ends and means. They never stop to consider that our continued existence is contingent upon the continuation of 'lower' lifeforms. For example, if Fungi disappeared from the Earth tomorrow so would plant life, and inevitably our species. [/QUOTE]
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