Piers Morgan accused of making money from anti-Jewish anti-Semitism.

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The video raises an interesting thing. Historically there has been no love lost between Jews and Christians and this goes back to the first decades of Christianity. Orthodox Jews in Palestine maintain that hostility much to the embarrassment of Jews like Bibi who value Evangelical Protestant support in the USA and also Gantz supporters who want to be seen as Western, blah, blah, etc. Egyptians from Muslim backgrounds and North African and Levantine Muslims who generally therefore find this whole contemporary "Judeo-Christian" a bit strange. I think that is understandable.

Also Piers Morgan is being a creepy snob in platforming Douglas Murray but refusing to platform the Tommy Robinson/Stephen Lennon on the grounds that he hates Muslims.

The thing is- is the below video the start of a campaign to cancel Piers Morgan?


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQARf8-FoMI&t=91s
 

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The video raises an interesting thing. Historically there has been no love lost between Jews and Christians and this goes back to the first decades of Christianity. Orthodox Jews in Palestine maintain that hostility much to the embarrassment of Jews like Bibi who value Evangelical Protestant support in the USA and also Gantz supporters who want to be seen as Western, blah, blah, etc. Egyptians from Muslim backgrounds and North African and Levantine Muslims who generally therefore find this whole contemporary "Judeo-Christian" a bit strange. I think that is understandable.

Also Piers Morgan is being a creepy snob in platforming Douglas Murray but refusing to platform the Tommy Robinson/Stephen Lennon on the grounds that he hates Muslims.

The thing is- is the below video the start of a campaign to cancel Piers Morgan?


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQARf8-FoMI&t=91s

lol Yer man?!

I'll watch it later..
 

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lol Yer man?!

I'll watch it later..

I used to hate Piers Morgan mainly because of his anti-Gun Rights agitation in the USA (I am very pro-Gun Rights). However I have warmed to him. I like the fact that he has allowed on Seyed Mohammad Marandi to give the Iranian point of view.
 

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The video raises an interesting thing. Historically there has been no love lost between Jews and Christians and this goes back to the first decades of Christianity. Orthodox Jews in Palestine maintain that hostility much to the embarrassment of Jews like Bibi who value Evangelical Protestant support in the USA and also Gantz supporters who want to be seen as Western, blah, blah, etc. Egyptians from Muslim backgrounds and North African and Levantine Muslims who generally therefore find this whole contemporary "Judeo-Christian" a bit strange. I think that is understandable.

Also Piers Morgan is being a creepy snob in platforming Douglas Murray but refusing to platform the Tommy Robinson/Stephen Lennon on the grounds that he hates Muslims.

The thing is- is the below video the start of a campaign to cancel Piers Morgan?


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQARf8-FoMI&t=91s

lol Notice that this guy (who's basically roc) thinks that not being an Islamophobe is antisemitic
 

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lol Notice that this guy (who's basically roc) thinks that not being an Islamophobe is antisemitic

It is now not an uncommon belief among certain types of non-Jews.

He comes across though as very whiney and effeminate and you feel that he is trying for that effect don't you?

Not all the time but a lot of the time a major difference between savage Muslims and Prods on one hand and savage Jews on the other is that the latter will engage in this whiney crap even when they are being utterly barbaric and nasty. At least this is my impression.
 

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The video raises an interesting thing. Historically there has been no love lost between Jews and Christians and this goes back to the first decades of Christianity. Orthodox Jews in Palestine maintain that hostility much to the embarrassment of Jews like Bibi who value Evangelical Protestant support in the USA and also Gantz supporters who want to be seen as Western, blah, blah, etc. Egyptians from Muslim backgrounds and North African and Levantine Muslims who generally therefore find this whole contemporary "Judeo-Christian" a bit strange. I think that is understandable.

Also Piers Morgan is being a creepy snob in platforming Douglas Murray but refusing to platform the Tommy Robinson/Stephen Lennon on the grounds that he hates Muslims.

The thing is- is the below video the start of a campaign to cancel Piers Morgan?


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQARf8-FoMI&t=91s

The whole thing is actually fundamentally retarded. He makes the comparison with Morgan's thrash show and Jerry Springer, Jeremy Kyle. Uhh.. did either of those two agree with the 'haters' they 'platformed', no
 

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The video raises an interesting thing. Historically there has been no love lost between Jews and Christians and this goes back to the first decades of Christianity. Orthodox Jews in Palestine maintain that hostility much to the embarrassment of Jews like Bibi who value Evangelical Protestant support in the USA and also Gantz supporters who want to be seen as Western, blah, blah, etc. Egyptians from Muslim backgrounds and North African and Levantine Muslims who generally therefore find this whole contemporary "Judeo-Christian" a bit strange. I think that is understandable.

Also Piers Morgan is being a creepy snob in platforming Douglas Murray but refusing to platform the Tommy Robinson/Stephen Lennon on the grounds that he hates Muslims.

The thing is- is the below video the start of a campaign to cancel Piers Morgan?


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQARf8-FoMI&t=91s

The Fat Brown Buffalo is an interesting case

TYT is off-the-charts anti-white, we're talking roc levels here. And now he's an anti-Seemite as well 🤣
 

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The Fat Brown Buffalo is an interesting case

TYT is off-the-charts anti-white, we're talking roc levels here. And now he's an anti-Seemite as well 🤣

How do you make that out?

By the way he sided with the ADL you I think we both can agree are an organization which it would be best for everyone did not exist against humanist Jews. He has happily had a presenter who is massively pro-Zionist. A lotta Turks see Jews as such superior to Arabic speaking Muslims and Christians- I kinda get the feeling that is true of who you call the Fat Brown Buffalo. My problem with him though is not being racist as such but rather his support for the ADL.
 

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How do you make that out?
lol Where to begin

What can I say, when it comes to antiwhiteism you're like a fish in water, you don't notice it (the water)

By the way he sided with the ADL you I think we both can agree are an organization which it would be best for everyone did not exist against humanist Jews. He has happily had a presenter who is massively pro-Zionist. A lotta Turks see Jews as such superior to Arabic speaking Muslims and Christians- I kinda get the feeling that is true of who you call the Fat Brown Buffalo. My problem with him though is not being racist as such but rather his support for the ADL.
Fat Brown Buffalo was invented/memefied by AiU AKA Devon Tracey (some people may know who he is)
 

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What can I say, when it comes to antiwhiteism you're like a fish in water, you don't notice it (the water)

I am suspicious of all anti-racisms. To me saying something is anti-Black or anti-White or anti-Jewish or anti-Pakistani is not in and of itself an arguement.

Something painfully obvious amongst Ulster Prods is that Ulster Prods who complain loudest about the sectarianism and tribalism of themuns are the ones who are most sectarian and tribalist themselves but I have observed similar phenomena amongst Afro-Caribbean, Jews, Muslims and indigenous English people. So I always kinda suspect when someone starts going on about racism of whatever type that they themselves are pretty racist.
 

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I am suspicious of all anti-racisms. To me saying something is anti-Black or anti-White or anti-Jewish or anti-Pakistani is not in and of itself an arguement.

Something painfully obvious amongst Ulster Prods is that Ulster Prods who complain loudest about the sectarianism and tribalism of themuns are the ones who are most sectarian and tribalist themselves but I have observed similar phenomena amongst Afro-Caribbean, Jews, Muslims and indigenous English people. So I always kinda suspect when someone starts going on about racism of whatever type that they themselves are pretty racist.
Facts don't care about your suspicions

My point was that you're oblivious to antiwhiteism

roc says that he doesn't believe that antiwhiteism exists because white people don't exist, I don't know what your problem is!
 

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Facts don't care about your suspicions

My point was that you're oblivious to antiwhiteism

roc says that he doesn't believe that antiwhiteism exists because white people don't exist, I don't know what your problem is!

Okay if you had power what examples of antiwhitism would you make illegal?
 

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Okay if you had power what examples of antiwhitism would you make illegal?
Is that a roundabout way of you asking me to give you examples of antiwhiteism?

Can you not think of any yourself?! 😆 Really?
 

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Is that a roundabout way of you asking me to give you examples of antiwhiteism?

Can you not think of any yourself?! 😆 Really?

Yeah there are the "Hebrew Israelites" who rant either on O'Connell Street or just off it some days about how they are going to enslave Wypipo and how God hates us and blah, blah, blah. I actually find very entertaining- I often find racism funny if I am to be honest. My Sephardi friend is pretty racist against Eastern Europeans, particularly probably the Jewish ones but not just them, I guess that could count as anti-White racism but she is not hostile to all Wypipo. The "Hebrew Israelites" should probably be deported but if there had not been mass immigration on such a scale as there has been I probably would not say that.
 

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Yeah there are the "Hebrew Israelites" who rant either on O'Connell Street or just off it some days about how they are going to enslave Wypipo and how God hates us and blah, blah, blah. I actually find very entertaining- I often find racism funny if I am to be honest. My Sephardi friend is pretty racist against Eastern Europeans, particularly probably the Jewish ones but not just them, I guess that could count as anti-White racism but she is not hostile to all Wypipo. The "Hebrew Israelites" should probably be deported but if there had not been mass immigration on such a scale as there has been I probably would not say that.
You've probably provided a teachable moment for me here and reinforced why I don't use the term racist/racism

First of all, racist is the language of the enemy and only white people can be racist, quite literally

Secondly, when I say "antiwhiteism", you immediately start thinking of racism and then you think of non-whites who hate whites

That's really not the first thing on my mind, in fact, when I think about non-whites (particularly blax) hating whites in terms of antiwhiteism, I'd be thinking more of the people who pour fuel on that fire. And if you're a conspiracy theorist, you might be inclined to think that with a lot of these things, all roads lead to (((Rome)))
 

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You've probably provided a teachable moment for me here and reinforced why I don't use the term racist/racism

First of all, racist is the language of the enemy and only white people can be racist, quite literally

Secondly, when I say "antiwhiteism", you immediately start thinking of racism and then you think of non-whites who hate whites

That's really not the first thing on my mind, in fact, when I think about non-whites (particularly blax) hating whites in terms of antiwhiteism, I'd be thinking more of the people who pour fuel on that fire. And if you're a conspiracy theorist, you might be inclined to think that with a lot of these things, all roads lead to (((Rome)))

Okay is Antiwhitism to you is not racism against Wyipipo than what exactly is it?

I have read theories about Wallace D. Fard Muhammad being a Syrian Druze or Afghan Ismaeli however I have never read anything about him being Jewish- where have you come across that claim? Also the really hardcore Black ethno-Nationalists have the same attitude towards Jews that Neo-Nutzis have.
 

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Okay is Antiwhitism to you is not racism against Wyipipo than what exactly is it?
Shall we start with a definition?

Anti - Against
White - White people

I have read theories about Wallace D. Fard Muhammad being a Syrian Druze or Afghan Ismaeli however I have never read anything about him being Jewish- where have you come across that claim? Also the really hardcore Black ethno-Nationalists have the same attitude towards Jews that Neo-Nutzis have.
I didn't say anything about Wallace D. Fard Muhammad and I haven't the slightest clue who he is
 

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He was the founder of the really Black ethno-Nationalism in the USA.
That's nice, but I don't care, I don't care about black ethno-nationalism in the USA and I don't really think that it's a thing
 

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Shall we start with a definition?

Anti - Against
White - White people

So basically you are against any criticism of White people? Can you really see no dangers with that? I mean look at the knots the Jews have tied themselves up obsessing about Antisemitism.
 

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So basically you are against any criticism of White people?
lol Wut? Where are you getting that from?

If you talk about speech, you would need to talk about how it manifests, so like teaching people that whites say re: slavery and colonialism, are uniquely evil. Which is literally what they do. But there are a tonne of examples of stuff like that

Can you really see no dangers with that? I mean look at the knots the Jews have tied themselves up obsessing about Antisemitism.
Antisemitism is about as meaningless, or as broad, as racism is
 

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That's nice, but I don't care, I don't care about black ethno-nationalism in the USA and I don't really think that it's a thing

And people say that Flat Earthers are the ultimate in conspiracytard nuttery! For real? It is all a pretense in your opinion?

Unlike White Nationalism Black Nationalism in the USA has multi-generational organizations, etc which outside of the Klan White Nationalism really does not have- and since the 1970s the Klan has basically retreated into being a Southern backwoods thing (the Second Era Klan was actually bigger in certain parts of the North and Mid-West than it was in Dixie). It is kind of interesting that you don't find discussion of Klan stuff on Counter-Currents, Occidental Observer, etc. Is Jared Taylor a member of the Klan? I know his baby momma met him when she was doing research into the KKK but that does not necessarily mean that he is a member.
 

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And people say that Flat Earthers are the ultimate in conspiracytard nuttery! For real?
Can you think of anything more crazy?

It is all a pretense in your opinion?
Okay, what is black nationalism in America and how is it a thing? Please explain

Unlike White Nationalism Black Nationalism in the USA has multi-generational organizations, etc which outside of the Klan White Nationalism really does not have- and since the 1970s the Klan has basically retreated into being a Southern backwoods thing (the Second Era Klan was actually bigger in certain parts of the North and Mid-West than it was in Dixie). It is kind of interesting that you don't find discussion of Klan stuff on Counter-Currents, Occidental Observer, etc. Is Jared Taylor a member of the Klan? I know his baby momma met him when she was doing research into the KKK but that does not necessarily mean that he is a member.
 

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Okay, what is black nationalism in America and how is it a thing? Please explain

It is ethno-Nationalism for Foundational Black Americans/New Afrikans/"Afro-Americans"/North American Blacks/Whatever.
 

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It is ethno-Nationalism for Foundational Black Americans/New Afrikans/"Afro-Americans"/North American Blacks/Whatever.
How is it ethno-nationalism? What does "Foundational" mean?
 

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How is it ethno-nationalism? What's "Foundational" mean?

It is Nationalism based on biological group that biological group being Black people in North America who were forged into a Nation by slavery.Okay Asians have played a significant role in it such as J Sakai, Henry Parks and Yuri Kochiyama but they neither considered themselves as members of the Nation or were considered to be such. J Sakai of course wrote the book "Settlers- The Mythology of the White Proletariat" which is considered the "Bible of the anti-White Left".

It means in this context that they were the Black North Americans at the founding of the USA.
 

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It is Nationalism based on biological group that biological group being Black people in North America who were forged into a Nation by slavery.Okay Asians have played a significant role in it such as J Sakai, Henry Parks and Yuri Kochiyama but they neither considered themselves as members of the Nation or were considered to be such. J Sakai of course wrote the book "Settlers- The Mythology of the White Proletariat" which is considered the "Bible of the anti-White Left".

It means in this context that they were the Black North Americans at the founding of the USA.
Blax are not an indigenous people in the USA, nor are they foundational

The indigenous people of the United States of America are of European descent (i.e. wypipo), the founders and settlers of said country
 

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Blax are not an indigenous people in the USA, nor are they foundational

The indigenous people of the United States of America are of European descent (i.e. wypipo), the founders and settlers of said country

The indigenous people are the First Nations.

They were an important part economically of the USA at it's founding and arguably they have put more of their cultural stamp on the place than the English, Dutch and Scotch fanatical Prods and Freemasons who set up the State. Yes true the New Afrikans took the Tory in the so-called "American War of Independence"- which was the ethically superior side which tragically lost to George Washington and his terrorist bands.

But you really think some piece of Elis Island mystery meat who's families only arrived in North America in the late 19 th or early 20 th century are more indigenous than those you call the "Blax"?
 

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The indigenous people are the First Nations.
Of where? Which country?

Secondly, it doesn't change the fact that you claiming that black nationalism in the US is "ethno-Nationalism" is utterly ridiculous, as is the notion that blax are "Foundational" to said country

I think you should quit while you're behind :)

They were an important part economically of the USA at it's founding and arguably they have put more of their cultural stamp on the place than the English, Dutch and Scotch fanatical Prods and Freemasons who set up the State. Yes true the New Afrikans took the Tory in the so-called "American War of Independence"- which was the ethically superior side which tragically lost to George Washington and his terrorist bands.
But you really think some piece of Elis Island mystery meat who's families only arrived in North America in the late 19 th or early 20 th century are more indigenous than those you call the "Blax"?
America is a white country, always will be
 

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Of where? Which country?

Secondly, it doesn't change the fact that you claiming that black nationalism in the US is "ethno-Nationalism" is utterly ridiculous, as is the notion that blax are "Foundational" to said country

I think you should quit while you're behind :)



America is a white country, always will be

The First Nations of North America. Nation and State are different things.

How is it not ethno-Nationalism? Sure they have never had a State but not every Nation has had one.

In this context how do you define Foundational?

Really? The majority of the Americas are not White and very soon the majority of the USA will not be White.
 

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America is a white country, always will be

This is Carl Gustav Jung writing back when the USA was still a majority White country in terms of demographics-

"“Another thing that struck me [in the American] was the great influence of the Negro, a psychological influence naturally, not due to the mixing of blood. The emotional way an American expresses himself, especially the way he laughs, can best be studied in the illustrated supplements of the American papers; the inimitable Teddy Roosevelt laugh is found in its primordial form in the American Negro. The peculiar walk with loose joints, or the swinging of the hips so frequently observed in Americans, also comes from the Negro. (3) American music draws its main inspiration from the Negro, and so does the dance. The expression of religious feeling, the revival meetings, the Holy Rollers and other abnormalities are strongly influenced by the Negro. The vivacity of the average American, which shows itself not only at baseball games but quite particularly in his extraordinary love of talking – the ceaseless gabble of American papers is an eloquent example of this – is scarcely to be derived from his Germanic forefathers, but is far more like the chattering of a Negro village. The almost total lack of privacy and the all-devouring mass sociability remind one of primitive life in open huts, where there is complete identity with all members of the tribe.”

 

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The First Nations of North America. Nation and State are different things.
Name one!

I'm not interested in your Marxist claptrap

How is it not ethno-Nationalism?
Do you not know what ethno-nationalism means, ruserious right now?

Sure they have never had a State but not every Nation has had one.

In this context how do you define Foundational?
The people who founded the nation. Not a bunch of Africans who were brought to America as slaves bought from other Africans who sold them to Jews

Really? The majority of the Americas are not White and very soon the majority of the USA will not be White.
That's different. America is a white country, you're talking about white genocide, something you absolutely do not care about
 

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Name one!

I'm not interested in your Marxist claptrap


Do you not know what ethno-nationalism means, ruserious right now?


The people who founded the nation. Not a bunch of Africans who were brought to America as slaves bought from other Africans who sold them to Jews

Sioux, Apache- there two.

Yes I do.

Founded the State. It is debatable if the USA ever actually became a Nation as such. George Washington considered himself an Englishman to his dying day- that was his Nationality.
 

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Sioux, Apache- there two.
What, the pizza joint, the attack helicopter? I ain't never heard of no country called Apache

Yes I do.
No you don't

Founded the State. It is debatable if the USA ever actually became a Nation as such. George Washington considered himself an Englishman to his dying day- that was his Nationality.
America is a huwhite country, always will be. Same as South Africa. After whites are genocided in those countries they can change the name
 

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