The Climate Change scam

[clarke-connolly]

He's totally out of his depth. Speaking of depth he can't understand why Disney World in Orlando isn't under 30 feet of water.

He identify's , Disney World in Orlando as under 30 feet of water ! ! !

 

[Mad as Fish]

Even Bill Gates, the gowl who the army of online establishment bootlickers bow down to, has basically said climate change is a scam.
This is the same gowl, along with the WEF/Schwab bastards, who pushed the ConVid shite, the tranny shite, the race wars shite etc etc.
Bootlickers take Gates' word for everything and only trolls continue to push what he has said isn't a threat.
Ya just gotta laugh at these morons because they're quite obviously mentally ill.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/10/28/business/bill-gates-climate-change

It's clicked with Billy Boy that any future billions to be made from AI or data centres will require vast amounts of energy and windmills just won't cut it, hence his backing off the scam.

 

[Haven]

Haven I was going to ask you to take a look at this Site but the second sentence says "disseminating the latest climate science to all with an open and enquiring mind" so I figure I probably shouldn't bother.

Irish Climate Science Forum

The Irish Climate Science Forum (ICSF) is committed to identifying and disseminating the latest climate science. Its members are characterized by an open and enquiring mind on climate science, driven by the imperative of objectivity without any vested interests.

www.icsf.ie

FFS Myles. Eben they say that "Part of this warming has been caused by anthropogenic GHG (Green House Gas) emissions".

 

[Haven]

Come on, give us some science rather than silly distractions.

You're the one posting studies from discredited "researchers" . Check the crap you post next time.

But you can't.

Or would you prefer to have a chat about the now totally discredited Michael Mann and his hockey stick curve?

Its been reconfirmed a number of times! What are you smoking?

Hockey stick graph (global temperature) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

FFS Myles. Eben they say that "Part of this warming has been caused by anthropogenic GHG (Green House Gas) emissions".

Part of it may well be. But what else do they say?

 

[Haven]

Part of it may well be. But what else do they say?

But how would you know?
You have demonstrated you dont know how any of tvis works, natural or otherwise.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

How would I know what? I don't know, that's the point. But I have a healthy degree of scepticism when experts tell me something. You don't have that unfortunately.

So what do you think of what the Irish Climate Science Forum have to say, apart from selectively picking one sentence that fits your own narrative?

 

[Haven]

How would I know what? I don't know, that's the point.

Thats why you need to research and learn.

But I have a healthy degree of scepticism when experts tell me something.

You are constantly posting about experts you find appealing. You understand and can see that, right?
But you dont know how to judge their arguments either because you dont know the basics.

You don't have that unfortunately.

Unfortunately I do. I do look at this stuff and time and again the "research" doesnt stand up or the people writing it turn out to be loons like the lads MAF is championing.

So what do you think of what the Irish Climate Science Forum have to say, apart from selectively picking one sentence that fits your own narrative?

Its literally what they say Myles. Its right fucking there.

I had a look their link: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/579892791b631b681e076a21/t/641c7353f5d0fc2ff444e1f2/1679586131462/ICSF+Critique+of+AR6+SYR+&+CAP23+-+Mar21FF.pdf

You now tell me why you favour these experts?

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Thats why you need to research and learn. You are constantly posting about experts you find appealing. You understand and can see that, right?

I don't find them appealing. I just like to listen to all viewpoints. For example the theory you supported that 25% of Florida and most low lying parts of the World will be under water in 57 years doesn't seem to be happening.

Its literally what they say Myles. Its right fucking there.

I know its there. But its the one sentence you've picked out that supports your narrative. What about the rest of what they say? Did it even register in your brain or does it go in one ear and out the other if it doesn't support your theory?

You now tell me why you favour these experts?

I don't favour them. I think its good to look at things from multiple angles. I'm finding that its not so much that you won't do so but that you actually can't.

The one sentence whilst disregarding the rest is a clear example of that inability.

 

[Haven]

I don't find them appealing. I just like to listen to all viewpoints. For example the theory you supported that 25% of Florida and most low lying parts of the World will be under water in 57 years doesn't seem to be happening.

You seem fixated on this clip from 1982.

But sea level is rising anyway.

Sea level rise - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I know its there. But its the one sentence you've picked out that supports your narrative.

It supports what is happening. Their argument is that man-made causes are only contibuting to half the warming being seen. But the majority of evidence doesnt support that..

What about the rest of what they say? Did it even register in your brain or does it go in one ear and out the other if it doesn't support your theory?

Tell me what parts of their arguments you like, and why.

I don't favour them. I think its good to look at things from multiple angles. I'm finding that its not so much that you won't do so but that you actually can't.

Tell me what parts of their arguments you like, and why.

The one sentence whilst disregarding the rest is a clear example of that inability.

Tell me what parts of their arguments you like, and why.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

You seem fixated on this clip from 1982.

Indeed. Which shows that their predictions were wrong. Yet earlier in the thread you said they'll still be right in 57 years.

In the 43 years since 1982, how much of Florida is now underwater?

It supports what is happening. Their argument is that man-made causes are only contibuting to half the warming being seen. But the majority of evidence doesnt support that..

Tell me what parts of their arguments you like, and why.Tell me what parts of their arguments you like, and why.Tell me what parts of their arguments you like, and why.

You tell me what parts of their arguments you don't like and why.

 

[Haven]

Indeed. Which shows that their predictions were wrong. Yet earlier in the thread you said they'll still be right in 57 years.

This century ends in 75 years.

In the 43 years since 1982, how much of Florida is now underwater?

On a seasonal basis, quite a lot already.

Florida's Sea Level Is Rising

Sea levels around Florida have risen up to 8 inches since 1950, and are now rising as much as 1 inch every 3 years, mainly due to a slowing Gulf Stream. Because of sea level rise, tidal flooding in some areas of the state has increased by 352% since 2000, and communities are spending over $4...

sealevelrise.org

The response has been to build new levees and new sea walls. So that will help....for a while.

Reinventing the South Florida seawall to help marine life, buffer rising seas

A “living seawall” — developed by a Miami-based tech start-up called KindDesigns — exemplifies cutting-edge in both its design and how it is made.

www.wlrn.org

They changed their building codes.

Solving the Skilled Labor Shortage in Construction | CIC Group

Building codes are an essential aspect of construction that ensure the safety, durability and functionality of structures.

cicconstruction.com

They are doing this for a clear reason, Myles.

You tell me what parts of their arguments you don't like and why.

No Myles, this is all on you. You brought them up.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

This century ends in 75 years.

They said 100 years from 1982. That's 57 years.

They are doing this for a clear reason, Myles.

So your claim that 25% of Florida would be under water by 2082 isn't going according to plan because it seems none of 1982 Florida is as of yet under water.

 

[Haven]

They said 100 years from 1982. That's 57 years.

They said "next century". Thats this century.

So your claim that 25% of Florida would be under water by 2082

By 2100.

isn't going according to plan because it seems none of 1982 Florida is as of yet under water.

I guess not. It seems people dont like that and are spending billions to stop it. Who knew?

 

[Mad as Fish]

Just as I thought, Tank had rushed off to phone a friend and has now returned with the usual list of alarmist bullshit!

 

[Mad as Fish]

They said 100 years from 1982. That's 57 years.


So your claim that 25% of Florida would be under water by 2082 isn't going according to plan because it seems none of 1982 Florida is as of yet under water.

Check out Al Gore's prediction that the ice caps would be gone by 2014!

I've had alarmists deny that he ever said it but it's there in his Nobel acceptance speech.

 

[Mad as Fish]

One of the best summaries I have come across of the BS that is global warming comes from a submission to the House of Commons Science and Technology Committee by a retired physicist, Dr Philip Bratby, who's field of study was heat transfer, fluid flow and thermodynamics -

If the Government wants the public to understand what is meant by the mythical “atmospheric greenhouse effect” then it should provide an explanation based on physics—noting that the atmosphere does not behave like a greenhouse. There is no basis in physics for the “atmospheric greenhouse effect”, it was something dreamt up by “climate scientists” who don’t seem to have an understanding of the laws of physics—for them to say that a gas such as carbon dioxide “traps heat” is just laughable and shows their ignorance.

https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201314/cmselect/cmsctech/254/254vw06.htm

There is another item in his submission which is of interest, but I'll return to that when time allows.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

They said "next century". Thats this century.

Within the next century aka the next 100 years. Only 57 to go. Better get those snorkles out.

Check out Al Gore's prediction that the ice caps would be gone by 2014!

Did you agree with Gore's prediction at the time Haven?

 

[Haven]

Within the next century aka the next 100 years. Only 57 to go. Better get those snorkles out.

By 2100.

Or maybe not.

US Army Corps Miami-Dade Backbay Study

The United States Army Corps of Engineers’ Miami-Dade “Back Bay” Study is investigating solutions to reduce the damage and risks from flooding that comes from storm surges associated with hurricanes and tropical storms amplified by sea-level rise.

www.miamidda.com

There has to be a limit to how much they spend on this.

Did you agree with Gore's prediction at the time Haven?

What prediction?

And I can see you have avoided all my questions.

 

[Mad as Fish]

Al Gores Nobel acceptance speech of 2007 -

Last September 21, as the Northern Hemisphere tilted away from the sun, scientists reported with unprecedented distress that the North Polar ice cap is “falling off a cliff.” One study estimated that it could be completely gone during summer in less than 22 years. Another new study, to be presented by U.S. Navy researchers later this week, warns it could happen in as little as 7 years.

Nobel Peace Prize 2007

The Nobel Peace Prize 2007 was awarded jointly to Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and Albert Arnold (Al) Gore Jr. "for their efforts to build up and disseminate greater knowledge about man-made climate change, and to lay the foundations for the measures that are needed to...

www.nobelprize.org

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

^^
That one

What prediction?

 

[Haven]

^^
That one

Are you sure you dont want to verify it for yourself?

Im giving you a chance here.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

I don't want your chances.

Go ahead.

 

[Haven]

I don't want your chances.

Go ahead.

Grand so.

He didnt "say the ice caps would be gone by 2014". He did cite scientific studies which presented a range of timelines for when the Arctic might become ice-free in the summer.

One suggested less than 22 years and another suggesting as little as 7 years, which would have pointed to a potential ice-free summer around 2014 or 2015. And note, summer.

The Arctic ice cap is showing a downward trend, at current rates its looking it looks like its gonna be ice free in summer months, around 2050.

So he was wrong on the timeline. But its clearly happening all the same.

 

[Mad as Fish]

Grand so.

He didnt "say the ice caps would be gone by 2014". He did cite scientific studies which presented a range of timelines for when the Arctic might become ice-free in the summer.

One suggested less than 22 years and another suggesting as little as 7 years, which would have pointed to a potential ice-free summer around 2014 or 2015. And note, summer.

The Arctic ice cap is showing a downward trend, at current rates its looking it looks like its gonna be ice free in summer months, around 2050.

So he was wrong on the timeline. But its clearly happening all the same.

Meanwhile -

Massive Recovery in Antarctica Sea Ice Unreported by Net Zero-Obsessed Mainstream Media​

Massive Recovery in Antarctica Sea Ice Unreported by Net Zero-Obsessed Mainstream Media – The Daily Sceptic

There's been a massive recovery in Antarctica sea ice this year. But you won't hear about it in our Net Zero-obsessed mainstream media, says Chris Morrison.

dailysceptic.org

 

[Haven]

Meanwhile -

Massive Recovery in Antarctica Sea Ice Unreported by Net Zero-Obsessed Mainstream Media​

Massive Recovery in Antarctica Sea Ice Unreported by Net Zero-Obsessed Mainstream Media – The Daily Sceptic

There's been a massive recovery in Antarctica sea ice this year. But you won't hear about it in our Net Zero-obsessed mainstream media, says Chris Morrison.

dailysceptic.org

Ice Gain in Antarctica? Cool Story, Still a Hot Planet - Antarctic and Southern Ocean Coalition

Blog post

www.asoc.org

 

[Mad as Fish]

Ice Gain in Antarctica? Cool Story, Still a Hot Planet - Antarctic and Southern Ocean Coalition

Blog post

www.asoc.org

There is always some limp wristed bitter little alarmist on hand to come along with the usual BS so beloved by the climate change religion to try and talk down massive holes in their arguments.

 

[Mad as Fish]

Grand so.

He didnt "say the ice caps would be gone by 2014". He did cite scientific studies which presented a range of timelines for when the Arctic might become ice-free in the summer.

One suggested less than 22 years and another suggesting as little as 7 years, which would have pointed to a potential ice-free summer around 2014 or 2015. And note, summer.

The Arctic ice cap is showing a downward trend, at current rates its looking it looks like its gonna be ice free in summer months, around 2050.

So he was wrong on the timeline. But its clearly happening all the same.

Hey @Myles O'Reilly, have you ever seen such pathetic squirming in your life!

 

[Haven]

Hey @Myles O'Reilly, have you ever seen such pathetic squirming in your life!

You are a cherry picking artist, Ill give you that!

 

[Mad as Fish]

You are a cherry picking artist, Ill give you that!

When it comes to cherry picking the absolute champions are climate alarmists and their selection of temperature records!

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Hey @Myles O'Reilly, have you ever seen such pathetic squirming in your life!

Not since a certain poster tried to bullshit why paedo Joe didn't release the Epstein files during his term Sir.

 

[Wolf]

Zitler must be completely fucked!!!

 

[Wolf]

Hey @Myles O'Reilly, have you ever seen such pathetic squirming in your life!

Par for the course.

 

[Mad as Fish]

Par for the course.

Operating at a superficial level as always. Googling for immediate comebacks is what passes for discussion in his feeble head. The very fundamentals of the climate scam are being questioned and its answer is to post some nonsense about Florida updating its flood defences, which probably needed renewing anyway!

 

[Wolf]

Operating at a superficial level as always. Googling for immediate comebacks is what passes for discussion in his feeble head. The very fundamentals of the climate scam are being questioned and its answer is to post some nonsense about Florida updating its flood defences, which probably needed renewing anyway!

Wait, you mean it's praising the Trump administration for doing vital infrastructural works?
That's a turn up for the books!

 

[jpc]

Remember Gates hang on a minute on climate change?

Have a flick through this article.

The AI Arms Race Is Cracking Open The Nuclear Fuel Cycle | ZeroHedge https://share.google/7O1DmZwLw2mGsrSCy

 

[Mad as Fish]

Remember Gates hang on a minute on climate change?

Have a flick through this article.

The AI Arms Race Is Cracking Open The Nuclear Fuel Cycle | ZeroHedge https://share.google/7O1DmZwLw2mGsrSCy

Yep, Billy Boy and his pals have suddenly woken to the fact that windmills just don't cut it.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Haven do you see Bill Gates as a traitor after his about turn?

 

[Wolf]

Haven do you see Bill Gates as a traitor after his about turn?

And Greta 'ANTIFA' Thunberg, that yoke has left the plantation too.

 

[clarke-connolly]

And Greta 'ANTIFA' Thunberg, that yoke has left the plantation too.

She is a bit weedy at the best of times ! ! !