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Yeah, I heard.

He's a blood and honor affiliate. They used to be a lot worse when I was young. In the area in which I grew up there was gangs of skinheads that bashed people routinely and I know of two deaths they were responsible for. They definitely diodn't fuck around, today's versions are far more tame.This is before the pervasion of the net, you see. I can remember getting leaflets in the letterbox that were neonazi propaganda, had a sketch of a black person represented as a monkey and their brain divided into percentages, the biggest part being "The need for watermelon" etc et al. It was pretty fucked man. They were all on the gas too and it made them real fucking twitchy and violent. Won't go into it but a friend of the family used to roll with them and he was legit one of the most terrifyingly volatile and violent people I've ever known.
 

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Yeah, I heard.

He's a blood and honor affiliate. They used to be a lot worse when I was young. In the area in which I grew up there was gangs of skinheads that bashed people routinely and I know of two deaths they were responsible for. They definitely diodn't fuck around, today's versions are far more tame.This is before the pervasion of the net, you see. I can remember getting leaflets in the letterbox that were neonazi propaganda, had a sketch of a black person represented as a monkey and their brain divided into percentages, the biggest part being "The need for watermelon" etc et al. It was pretty fucked man. They were all on the gas too and it made them real fucking twitchy and violent. Won't go into it but a friend of the family used to roll with them and he was legit one of the most terrifyingly volatile and violent people I've ever known.
Do you know (or could you find out) if there was conscription (mandatory military service) in Australia during the 20th century? We know from the songs Waltzing Matilda, the Band played Waltzing Matilda etc that Australians took part in the 1st world war and the second war, but my interest is were they conscripted?

I can say that there was no conscription in Ireland during either wars and in the case of the 2nd world war Irish PM
Eamonn DeValera said he would advise his country men North and South of the border not to serve with Britain and to refuse any draft. This meant northern Uniomnists could decide to join or not and select their regiments.
Yeah, I heard.

He's a blood and honor affiliate. They used to be a lot worse when I was young. In the area in which I grew up there was gangs of skinheads that bashed people routinely and I know of two deaths they were responsible for. They definitely diodn't fuck around, today's versions are far more tame.This is before the pervasion of the net, you see. I can remember getting leaflets in the letterbox that were neonazi propaganda, had a sketch of a black person represented as a monkey and their brain divided into percentages, the biggest part being "The need for watermelon" etc et al. It was pretty fucked man. They were all on the gas too and it made them real fucking twitchy and violent. Won't go into it but a friend of the family used to roll with them and he was legit one of the most terrifyingly volatile and violent people I've ever known.
Was there ever compulsory conscription into the military in Australia during the 1st or 2nd world wars?
 

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Do you know (or could you find out) if there was conscription (mandatory military service) in Australia during the 20th century? We know from the songs Waltzing Matilda, the Band played Waltzing Matilda etc that Australians took part in the 1st world war and the second war, but my interest is were they conscripted?

I can say that there was no conscription in Ireland during either wars and in the case of the 2nd world war Irish PM
Eamonn DeValera said he would advise his country men North and South of the border not to serve with Britain and to refuse any draft. This meant northern Uniomnists could decide to join or not and select their regiments.

Was there ever compulsory conscription into the military in Australia during the 1st or 2nd world wars?
As far as I understand it Australia only instituted conscription during the Vietnam era. WW1 and WW2 were not fought by Australian conscripts but by volunteers.Many of them were underage. They lied about thier age so they would be allowed to go and fight. My grandfather fought the Japanese in New Guinea as a teen in WW2. Can't even imagine something like this happening now. Imagine asking your average 17 YO to go fight from a ditch in the tropics with an Enfield. Ha!

Watlzing matilda is an old bush poem written by the Poet Banjo Patterson. It's about a swagman who gtets busted stealing a sheep for dinner and rather than get taken in by the law jumps into a billabong and drowns himself, and his ghost can be heard haunting it for all time. A billabong is a kind of freshwater pool that arises naturally from the Earth. A swagman was basically a kind of transient labourer who lived out of a swag moving from place to place doing odd jobs. Closest thing to it would be the America Hobo, I suppose. They were common after WW1 and through the depression years.

My grandmother told me a story about a dog she had when she was young. It was some kind of terrier thing, and they'd found it in a park after a period of back-toback violent thunderstorms and adopted it. When they found it, it had a collar made out of rags knotted together which they thought was odd. Anyway, one day grandmother and great grandmother were doing something in the garden and the dog starts barking its head off which was unusual, because it was quiet and timid, shy around new people. They went to have a gander and the dog is up on its hind legs against the fence yapping excitedly and wagging its tail excitedly. On the other side of the fence is this swagman. He never said anything, but he stood there for a minute or two smiling, then reached through the fence, gave the dog a pat and a salute and went on his way. Grandmother figured it was his dog, but he saw how well it was being treated and decided it was probably better off.


Anyway, this is the original waltzing matilda poem:

Oh! there once was a swagman camped in the Billabong,
Under the shade of a Coolabah tree;
And he sang as he looked at his old billy boiling,
“Who’ll come a-waltzing Matilda with me.”

Who’ll come a-waltzing Matilda, my darling,
Who’ll come a-waltzing Matilda with me?
Waltzing Matilda and leading a water-bag—
Who’ll come a-waltzing Matilda with me?

Down came a jumbuck to drink at the water-hole,
Up jumped the swagman and grabbed him in glee;
And he sang as he put him away in his tucker-bag,
“You’ll come a-waltzing Matilda with me!”

Down came the Squatter a-riding his thorough-bred;
Down came Policemen—one, two, and three.
“Whose is the jumbuck you’ve got in the tucker-bag?
You’ll come a-waltzing Matilda with me.”

But the swagman, he up and he jumped in the water-hole,
Drowning himself by the Coolabah tree;
And his ghost may be heard as it sings in the Billabong,
“Who’ll come a-waltzing Matilda with me?”

Not my favourite Patterson Poem. I prefer Clancy of the overflow.



I had written him a letter which I had, for want of better
Knowledge, sent to where I met him down the Lachlan, years ago,
He was shearing when I knew him, so I sent the letter to him,
Just "on spec", addressed as follows: "Clancy, of The Overflow".


And an answer came directed in a writing unexpected,
(And I think the same was written in a thumbnail dipped in tar)
'Twas his shearing mate who wrote it, and verbatim I will quote it:
"Clancy's gone to Queensland droving, and we don't know where he are."


In my wild erratic fancy visions come to me of Clancy
Gone a-droving "down the Cooper" where the western drovers go;
As the stock are slowly stringing, Clancy rides behind them singing,
For the drover's life has pleasures that the townsfolk never know.


And the bush hath friends to meet him, and their kindly voices greet him
In the murmur of the breezes and the river on its bars,
And he sees the vision splendid of the sunlit plains extended,
And at night the wondrous glory of the everlasting stars.


I am sitting in my dingy little office, where a stingy
Ray of sunlight struggles feebly down between the houses tall,
And the foetid air and gritty of the dusty, dirty city
Through the open window floating, spreads its foulness over all.


And in place of lowing cattle, I can hear the fiendish rattle
Of the tramways and the buses making hurry down the street,
And the language uninviting of the gutter children fighting,
Comes fitfully and faintly through the ceaseless tramp of feet.


And the hurrying people daunt me, and their pallid faces haunt me
As they shoulder one another in their rush and nervous haste,
With their eager eyes and greedy, and their stunted forms and weedy,
For townsfolk have no time to grow, they have no time to waste.


And I somehow fancy that I'd like to change with Clancy,
Like to take a turn at droving where the seasons come and go,
While he faced the round eternal of the cashbook and the journal -
But I doubt he'd suit the office, Clancy, of "The Overflow".
 

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As far as I understand it Australia only instituted conscription during the Vietnam era. WW1 and WW2 were not fought by Australian conscripts but by volunteers.Many of them were underage. They lied about thier age so they would be allowed to go and fight. My grandfather fought the Japanese in New Guinea as a teen in WW2. Can't even imagine something like this happening now. Imagine asking your average 17 YO to go fight from a ditch in the tropics with an Enfield. Ha!

Watlzing matilda is an old bush poem written by the Poet Banjo Patterson. It's about a swagman who gtets busted stealing a sheep for dinner and rather than get taken in by the law jumps into a billabong and drowns himself, and his ghost can be heard haunting it for all time. A billabong is a kind of freshwater pool that arises naturally from the Earth. A swagman was basically a kind of transient labourer who lived out of a swag moving from place to place doing odd jobs. Closest thing to it would be the America Hobo, I suppose. They were common after WW1 and through the depression years.

My grandmother told me a story about a dog she had when she was young. It was some kind of terrier thing, and they'd found it in a park after a period of back-toback violent thunderstorms and adopted it. When they found it, it had a collar made out of rags knotted together which they thought was odd. Anyway, one day grandmother and great grandmother were doing something in the garden and the dog starts barking its head off which was unusual, because it was quiet and timid, shy around new people. They went to have a gander and the dog is up on its hind legs against the fence yapping excitedly and wagging its tail excitedly. On the other side of the fence is this swagman. He never said anything, but he stood there for a minute or two smiling, then reached through the fence, gave the dog a pat and a salute and went on his way. Grandmother figured it was his dog, but he saw how well it was being treated and decided it was probably better off.


Anyway, this is the original waltzing matilda poem:

Oh! there once was a swagman camped in the Billabong,
Under the shade of a Coolabah tree;
And he sang as he looked at his old billy boiling,
“Who’ll come a-waltzing Matilda with me.”

Who’ll come a-waltzing Matilda, my darling,
Who’ll come a-waltzing Matilda with me?
Waltzing Matilda and leading a water-bag—
Who’ll come a-waltzing Matilda with me?

Down came a jumbuck to drink at the water-hole,
Up jumped the swagman and grabbed him in glee;
And he sang as he put him away in his tucker-bag,
“You’ll come a-waltzing Matilda with me!”

Down came the Squatter a-riding his thorough-bred;
Down came Policemen—one, two, and three.
“Whose is the jumbuck you’ve got in the tucker-bag?
You’ll come a-waltzing Matilda with me.”

But the swagman, he up and he jumped in the water-hole,
Drowning himself by the Coolabah tree;
And his ghost may be heard as it sings in the Billabong,
“Who’ll come a-waltzing Matilda with me?”


Not my favourite Patterson Poem. I prefer Clancy of the overflow.



I had written him a letter which I had, for want of better
Knowledge, sent to where I met him down the Lachlan, years ago,
He was shearing when I knew him, so I sent the letter to him,
Just "on spec", addressed as follows: "Clancy, of The Overflow".


And an answer came directed in a writing unexpected,
(And I think the same was written in a thumbnail dipped in tar)
'Twas his shearing mate who wrote it, and verbatim I will quote it:
"Clancy's gone to Queensland droving, and we don't know where he are."


In my wild erratic fancy visions come to me of Clancy
Gone a-droving "down the Cooper" where the western drovers go;
As the stock are slowly stringing, Clancy rides behind them singing,
For the drover's life has pleasures that the townsfolk never know.


And the bush hath friends to meet him, and their kindly voices greet him
In the murmur of the breezes and the river on its bars,
And he sees the vision splendid of the sunlit plains extended,
And at night the wondrous glory of the everlasting stars.


I am sitting in my dingy little office, where a stingy
Ray of sunlight struggles feebly down between the houses tall,
And the foetid air and gritty of the dusty, dirty city
Through the open window floating, spreads its foulness over all.


And in place of lowing cattle, I can hear the fiendish rattle
Of the tramways and the buses making hurry down the street,
And the language uninviting of the gutter children fighting,
Comes fitfully and faintly through the ceaseless tramp of feet.


And the hurrying people daunt me, and their pallid faces haunt me
As they shoulder one another in their rush and nervous haste,
With their eager eyes and greedy, and their stunted forms and weedy,
For townsfolk have no time to grow, they have no time to waste.


And I somehow fancy that I'd like to change with Clancy,
Like to take a turn at droving where the seasons come and go,
While he faced the round eternal of the cashbook and the journal -
But I doubt he'd suit the office, Clancy, of "The Overflow".
So there was conscription in Australia. I can understand it for WW1 and WW2 but not Vietnam.
I did not know the British fought in Vietnam? I am amazed Australians would go to fight in a ditch
anywhere. Imagine being in a ditch in Europe in wet weather?
 

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Feminism described in a single meme.

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The propaganda has generated what many refer to as the “Female Happiness Paradox.” Surveys show that increased power, job access and responsibility for women in society since the 1970s has also led to a diametrically opposed decline in overall happiness for those same women. The correlation suggests the exact opposite of what feminism originally promised and that the ideology has been a net negative.

Though some will argue that a general decline in economic conditions is the real cause, surveys show that women have suffered a far more pronounced drop in happiness compared to men. Meaning, men were already acclimated to the struggles of the workaday world and their roles as providers and protectors. Women were happy until they joined men in the trenches.

For men, the reaction has been to back away from the dating scene and the double standards involved. Over 63% of men under the age of 30 are now single; that's up from 51% in 2019. The majority of single men say this is by choice and that they are seeking to avoid relationships altogether. Why? The consensus appears to be that modern western women cost too much money and cause too much trouble.

Fear of failed marriage is one aspect that has the younger generation of men on edge, with family courts still largely in favor of women in divorce settlements and child custody. This is one reason why marriage rates have declined by 60% since the 1970s. However, the obstacles go well beyond divorce and into a new culture of female entitlement.

The word on the street is “Hoeflation”: The dramatic increase in cost for men today to maintain a relationship with a woman while the quality of women continues to go down. That is to say, it is an increase in female expectations vs what they bring to the table in a relationship.

Has Feminism And 'Hoeflation' Destroyed Dating In The West? - ZeroHedge
 

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The propaganda has generated what many refer to as the “Female Happiness Paradox.” Surveys show that increased power, job access and responsibility for women in society since the 1970s has also led to a diametrically opposed decline in overall happiness for those same women. The correlation suggests the exact opposite of what feminism originally promised and that the ideology has been a net negative.

Though some will argue that a general decline in economic conditions is the real cause, surveys show that women have suffered a far more pronounced drop in happiness compared to men. Meaning, men were already acclimated to the struggles of the workaday world and their roles as providers and protectors. Women were happy until they joined men in the trenches.

For men, the reaction has been to back away from the dating scene and the double standards involved. Over 63% of men under the age of 30 are now single; that's up from 51% in 2019. The majority of single men say this is by choice and that they are seeking to avoid relationships altogether. Why? The consensus appears to be that modern western women cost too much money and cause too much trouble.

Fear of failed marriage is one aspect that has the younger generation of men on edge, with family courts still largely in favor of women in divorce settlements and child custody. This is one reason why marriage rates have declined by 60% since the 1970s. However, the obstacles go well beyond divorce and into a new culture of female entitlement.

The word on the street is “Hoeflation”: The dramatic increase in cost for men today to maintain a relationship with a woman while the quality of women continues to go down. That is to say, it is an increase in female expectations vs what they bring to the table in a relationship.

Has Feminism And 'Hoeflation' Destroyed Dating In The West? - ZeroHedge
Very Interesting Post = = Thanks.
 

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