The suspicious destruction of Irish hedgerows and trees

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I am wondering what is behind the ongoing massive and unnecessary destruction of trees and hedgerows around Ireland.


Irish hedgerows are comprised of deciduous trees, not bushes, hence should not be trimmed

I am sure there are people on here very knowledgeable about gardening and will articulate this much better than I can, but basically there are items in your garden that benefit from being cut back and trimmed regularly. Grass is very much like that, unlike what some say about ‘re-wilding’, the fact is that the landscape of Ireland, never mind nature itself, benefits from grass been cut or eaten down low regularly. Grass that has not been cut will often go slightly rotten at the base, and also hold a bit of unpleasant dampness also at the base, which doesn’t benefit anybody really, and on the otherhand the closer its cut the more vigorously it will grow back. The same is true of many, maybe nearly all, bushes, and plants what are sometimes planted for hedges, like privet. They can get damp and sometimes slightly rotten at the base, and might just grow out too straggly, if you don’t cut them back sometimes.

Fair enough, but that is not true of native Irish deciduous trees, in my opinion anyway. They can take centuries to grow and if you lop off a limp when it hasn’t fully matured you can end up looking at that scar and its lopsided appearance for centuries later. The rule there is you let them grow out and up as far as they like, in otherwords leave them alone, for the many decades it takes for them to grow up and even after that mostly. Trees are not bushes and so many over enthusiastic gardeners don’t seem to understand that, in my experience anyway.

Yes of course there are some exceptions, like some very fast growing trees like Leylandii, which will grow back new branches in no time, and specific trees like some apple trees that are trimmed to make it easier to harvest the apples on commercial orchards, but generally the rule above applies, you leave them alone. Trees do not grow rotten at the base in any shape or form because they are not trimmed, its a total different phenomenon to bushes and grass and the other vegetation that gardeners are familiar with.

The point I am trying to make obviously is that Irish hedgerows are almost all comprised of Irish deciduous trees, they are not bushes or ‘hedges’ in the suburban garden sense, and hence they do not benefit from, and will die of, frequent trimming. Whitethorns are deciduous trees, for example, and there are many other great Irish deciduous trees to be found in these hedgerows


Original Intention behind Irish hedgerows

These trees were planted in Irish hedgerows on the edges of Irish fields, at great expense and trouble, to be that, trees, to grow up high and wide and provide benefits to farmers and the whole rural community in Ireland, for example:

– They provide great fertiliser, which could be a really important issue on Irish farms in the short term. If you are lucky to live beside a mature Irish hedgerow, which was allowed to grow up properly, as described, then there is a time of the year when the whole grass area is covered in leaves which will then greatly fertilise the land – removing the need for artificial fertiliser – and also add ingredients to the surface of the land – where the roots of the grass can reach it – that sometimes it lacks, like trace elements such as copper.

– They provide great shelter, in fact these great hedgerows are the secret weapon that generations of Irish farmers and rural dwellers used to cope with the Irish weather. It obviously rains and blows stormy winds, a lot in Ireland, and yet if you stand anywhere near these great hedgerows/groves of trees, you will hardly get a drop of rain on you or know anything about the potential hurricane that would blow if it wasn’t there.

Rural dwellers benefit enormously by this – urban dwellers are not I think properly conscious of how violent the wind can be if it is unobstructed across a wide area, because obviously in towns and cities you always have houses themselves as wind breaks – but so does livestock. Its a complete myth that say cattle do not mind rain, they mind driving rain very much and will hug the line of these great hedgerows very closely in those situations.

– It provides smell, visual and sound breaks. Sometimes I think urban dwellers have a romantic view of living in the country but its important to appreciate that agricultural activity frequently involves massively noisy engines and of course very pungent activities like the spreading of pig manure, which again you are spared any inconvenience from if you have a line of one of these great hedgerow/trees. And yes this was one of the reasons why generations of farmers created them in the first place.

– Finally its wonderful for nature, which, contrary to the modern image, many Irish farmers tried to protect in the past. For example years ago most school children went to school through the fields and knew the names of all the types of trees and the types of birds nests that they found in these great hedgerows, and liked this nature and wanted to protect it. Old estates would also very deliberately keep areas like this, often on the edges of estates with trees etc, undeveloped, specifically for nature purposes.


Current destruction of Irish hedgerows

If you ever want to know the given ‘instructions’ of what the globalists want in any given field you should always look for the ‘standing operating procedure’ or ‘international best practice’ or whatever is the line Irish state agencies are giving out. That will be what the globalists want because they infiltrate all these groups to deliberately spread their bad advice. Anyway the line here is that these hedgerows have to be trimmed, despite being trees and intended to grow up as trees, as pointed out, and simply should not be trimmed. This is just killing these hedgerows a little more every year, since for example “only untrimmed hawthorn can flower and fruit freely...”( https://www.treecouncil.ie/native-irish-tree-item/hawthorn/whitethorn?srsltid=AfmBOoqcmrDCYbilwPyLucHWW8kqE4KTbKA4eLQowm4Bpkt53TXlj9Vf .)

Look at it this way, look at the benefits listed above and ask yourself what use the current foot and a half Irish trimmed ‘hedgerow’ is in that regard? It obviously provides no shelter, no fertiliser from its trees and actually no real fencing for cattle, since the latter can just jump over them now.

If you dispute that the Irish hedgerows were never intended to be ‘trimmed’. i.e. destroyed, like this, ask yourself a simple question. What did they ever mean by Irish hedge schools? You stand in front of one of these modern destroyed, sorry ‘trimmed’, hedgerows and ask yourself how you would hold a school there, and then compare that to the traditional high and wide Irish hedgerows which could very easily protect a school from the weather.


Why? What is going on?

Is there something mysterious behind all this? They are trying to systemically gaslight the farming community that this ongoing destruction is somehow good, when it is the opposite for their farms and livestock, and they are telling the nature loving community that ‘oh yes this ongoing ‘trimming’ of trees is bad for trees and nature, but essential for the farming community.’

But its very systematic and Councils are spending gigantic amounts of money on this destruction all across Ireland, why, what gives? Its interesting too that in California they are now poised to fine owners and/or destroy any vegetation, including trees, anywhere near houses there, supposedly because of the fires they had but they always have a ready excuse handy and I don’t buy that one.

So why then? Well think about that digital prison they are creating, they for example monitor by satellite all farmland in Ireland multiple times a week, but obviously they cannot see very much through a good grove of trees/hedgerow. The same is true of cameras placed on neighbouring ones to one they could be targeting (i.e. if you are of interest they get the local informer – and modern Ireland on that exceeds East Germany under the Stasi – to put up cameras on his/her property which will overlook the targeted one, so problem solved for them), obviously again you cannot see much behind the great hedgerows of Ireland, which are the glory of particularly I would say parts of the East in Ireland, like Meath, Westmeath and Tipperary.

But does it have even further significance? You hear all kinds of stories of mobile phone 5G networks really being a kind of military grade weapon system, even one that could effect your health and who knows maybe it has some deep surveillance aspect to it? Even, if you wanted to get very speculative, you could ask is it designed to interact somehow with nanotechnology particles added to the vaccines? Could these great hedgerows/groves-of-trees be impeding these signals somehow?

Anyway I smell a rat, and when you hear people justifying the destruction of these great hedgerows/trees with ‘they might fall down and kill granny’ then you know you are dealing with some Globalist agenda, like Covid.

by Brian Nugent, http://www.orwellianireland.com

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Very noticeable and ongoing here in Kerry too.
Ye going to laugh but I liken it to the destruction of the Shire - the wanton eradication of beauty by ( literally) soulless orcs. That and enabling 5 and 6G radiation to penetrate dwellings - trees and foliage blocks us bathing in that stuff.
Needless to say that there is no 5G and plenty foliage in THEIR enclaves - like Mar a Lago....
 
Absolutely, there is something important behind all this destruction.
Absolutely. Years ago the ancient hedges were protected - there was a special skill in splicing and weaving the branches done by a skilled craftman. Yea I could go on how Agenda 30 is designed to start from the ground up, at local level, harnessing corrupt souls to do their bidding. 5 and 6G are weapon systems, nothing to do with telecomms - but total control. Look up Rosa Koire RIP from way back - she put it all together succinctly.
Blessings. Great post, scolairebocht.
 
A thorn hedge needs a bit of trimming and cutting to keep it stockproof. My neighbour has the machine trim his blackthorn hedge every year. The thorn is healthy, but the hedge is not stockproof - there are a dozen exits for the sheep. He should have noticed the gaps and bent the branches to block the gaps. Intelligent trimming and maintenance, not stupid machine trimming.

Many deciduous trees will regrow after being cut back to the ground.

But they are butchering the hedges. Sometimes they use diggers to smash the trees down. Or they use a huge tractor with a cutting disc, and two men either side to slow down traffic. This doesn't give a clean cut and scatters thorns and debris across the road.

Road safety is often used as an excuse for excessive cutting. But there are hundreds of Eircom telephone poles leaning over the road and about to fall and kill someone and nobody gives a damn about that. I reported it to the safety section at Eircom. A Nigerian man answered and got very angry with me for some reason.

Apparently 5G signal can be stopped by a leaf. All that tech and evil and the simple leaf can block it! That's certainly a possible reason for the widespread destruction.

Plus the system loves destruction. But we love creation, so let's keep creating.
 
Insurance companies insisting that all risks are reduced, including trees falling on cars in stormy weather.

It's not something that farmers like to do, but they don't want big claims on them either.
 
Just a few words on hedge cutting.

Nature, especially in Irelands temperate rain forest conditions, likes to take over every bit of ground available and it is keeping this growth in check that is the reason behind hedge cutting and verge trimming.

Without these operations fields would be taken over from invasive weeds and shrubs from the headlands and tall hedges will cause shading that reduces yields on the headlands. More lately, they also interfere with GPS signals, leading to errors in fertiliser applications etc.

Trimming hedges is usually done by a flail trimmer which are those yellow boxes on the end of arms sticking out of the rear of a tractor. They don't require that much power but the tractor needs to provide stability, hence they tend to be oversized and heavy.

Cutting of thicker stems and trunks may be done by circular saw, but this doesn't mulch the cuttings and cut branches may need to be dealt with by chainsaw.

Over the last few years a third method has become available and this is a hydraulic cutting shears on a 360 digger. This can deal with much thicker trunks and offers a quick and safe way of reducing tree height, and it is these which are probably behind the enthusiasm for cutting half a tree down leaving those long stumps.

Our old house had a couple of magnificent trees next to it but the neighbouring farmer came along with such a machine as he didn't want us to have half the house destroyed, and I must admit I had watched them swaying during storms and was not over dismayed about his decision, but I do think it can be overdone and I to mourn the loss of many magnificent specimens along the roadside.
 
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Superb article as always Brian.

I've noticed this for a few years too. Where my mother's from in east Galway (Decky country) there used to be plenty of trees lining the fields and little copses dotted about the place. Last time I went down I couldn't believe it. They were all gone. It looked like a desolate wasteland. They destroyed the place.

I wonder is it partly to do with the law brought in a few years back where it made the famer responsible for roadside ditches instead of the council.

So when a branch or a tree falls out on the road during a storm and injures or kills someone its their fault.

At least that would explain the destruction of the ditches (I'm not posh enough to call them hedgerows :) ) along the roadside.
 
Superb article as always Brian.

I've noticed this for a few years too. Where my mother's from in east Galway (Decky country) there used to be plenty of trees lining the fields and little copses dotted about the place. Last time I went down I couldn't believe it. They were all gone. It looked like a desolate wasteland. They destroyed the place.

I wonder is it partly to do with the law brought in a few years back where it made the famer responsible for roadside ditches instead of the council.

So when a branch or a tree falls out on the road during a storm and injures or kills someone its their fault.

At least that would explain the destruction of the ditches (I'm not posh enough to call them hedgerows :) ) along the roadside.
Sorry for being a bit pedantic Myles ~ The ditch is a dug channel ( mostly hand dug back in the day ) beside the hedge ~ I suppose the ditch and the hedge, ended up as a fence between two fields or along by the road.
 
Just a few words on hedge cutting.

Nature, especially in Irelands temperate rain forest conditions, likes to take over every bit of ground available and it is keeping this growth in check that is the reason behind hedge cutting and verge trimming.

Without these operations fields would be taken over from invasive weeds and shrubs from the headlands and tall hedges will cause shading that reduces yields on the headlands. More lately, they also interfere with GPS signals, leading to errors in fertiliser applications etc.

Trimming hedges is usually done by a flail trimmer which are those yellow boxes on the end of arms sticking out of the rear of a tractor. They don't require that much power but the tractor needs to provide stability, hence they tend to be oversized and heavy.

Cutting of thicker stems and trunks may be done by circular saw, but this doesn't mulch the cuttings and cut branches may need to be dealt with by chainsaw.

Over the last few years a third method has become available and this is a hydraulic cutting shears on a 360 digger. This can deal with much thicker trunks and offers a quick and safe way of reducing tree height, and it is these which are probably behind the enthusiasm for cutting half a tree down leaving those long stumps.

Our old house had a couple of magnificent trees next to it but the neighbouring farmer came along with such a machine as he didn't want us to have half the house destroyed, and I must admit I had watched them swaying during storms and was not over dismayed about his decision, but I do think it can be overdone and I to mourn the loss of many magnificent specimens along the roadside.
I suppose if they are cut down to the size of a medium sized man ~ Hedges will grow back and hopefully thicker and give some badly needed shelter to sheep and cattle ~ They are probably not as good for this, when they grow too high and wild.
 
The big trees in the photo will probably grow back, unless they have been poisoned

Two new English words for yiz: coppicing is when you cut a tree to the ground so it will regrow. Pollarding is when you cut the tree above grazing height, so the new growth won't get grazed away.

Just saw the Eircom boys putting brand new boroadband cable onto leaning, rotten telephone poles. There are often fallen trees lying on the lines. They know it is stupid, but the rich Frenchman who owns Eircom has given the orders.
 
Superb article as always Brian.

I've noticed this for a few years too. Where my mother's from in east Galway (Decky country) there used to be plenty of trees lining the fields and little copses dotted about the place. Last time I went down I couldn't believe it. They were all gone. It looked like a desolate wasteland. They destroyed the place.

I wonder is it partly to do with the law brought in a few years back where it made the famer responsible for roadside ditches instead of the council.

So when a branch or a tree falls out on the road during a storm and injures or kills someone its their fault.

At least that would explain the destruction of the ditches (I'm not posh enough to call them hedgerows :) ) along the roadside.
Aye Myles, I'd forgotten about the law change, and I should think it lies behind most of the destruction we see today.
 

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