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<blockquote data-quote="Tiger" data-source="post: 145716" data-attributes="member: 353"><p>More lame promissory materialism/scientism.</p><p></p><p>Abiogenesis isn’t an explanation but a label for the mystery of how lifeless matter began carrying coded, error-correcting information. Chemistry can describe reactions, but it can’t explain how symbols and meanings; like DNA’s genetic code, arise from physics alone. Until that gap is bridged, no one, including you, can actually answer the question, only rename it and deflect the answer to some imagined future.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>You say consciousness isn’t <em>just</em> brain activity, yet you also insist a brain or body is a necessary condition; that’s a contradiction unless you can spell out how brain processes <em>constitute</em> first-person experience rather than merely correlate with it.</p><p></p><p>Neuroscience can map reliable neural correlates of consciousness, but mapping correlations is not the same as explaining why those physical processes should <em>feel like</em> anything (the explanatory gap / the knowledge-argument).</p><p></p><p>Simply asserting that “materialism is necessary” without a mechanism is promissory materialism: it punts the problem to future science instead of specifying how subjective qualia are produced by objective events. So either give a principled account of constitution (how matter becomes subjectivity) or admit your position rests on an empirical hope, not an explanation.</p><p></p><p>I have shamed you into these two replies, which you normally never give and predictably it’s worked out badly for you. </p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 26px">Tiger 2 - 0 Jimmy</span></strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tiger, post: 145716, member: 353"] More lame promissory materialism/scientism. Abiogenesis isn’t an explanation but a label for the mystery of how lifeless matter began carrying coded, error-correcting information. Chemistry can describe reactions, but it can’t explain how symbols and meanings; like DNA’s genetic code, arise from physics alone. Until that gap is bridged, no one, including you, can actually answer the question, only rename it and deflect the answer to some imagined future. You say consciousness isn’t [I]just[/I] brain activity, yet you also insist a brain or body is a necessary condition; that’s a contradiction unless you can spell out how brain processes [I]constitute[/I] first-person experience rather than merely correlate with it. Neuroscience can map reliable neural correlates of consciousness, but mapping correlations is not the same as explaining why those physical processes should [I]feel like[/I] anything (the explanatory gap / the knowledge-argument). Simply asserting that “materialism is necessary” without a mechanism is promissory materialism: it punts the problem to future science instead of specifying how subjective qualia are produced by objective events. So either give a principled account of constitution (how matter becomes subjectivity) or admit your position rests on an empirical hope, not an explanation. I have shamed you into these two replies, which you normally never give and predictably it’s worked out badly for you. [B][SIZE=7]Tiger 2 - 0 Jimmy[/SIZE][/B] [/QUOTE]
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