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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tiger" data-source="post: 145728" data-attributes="member: 353">You keep repeating that “abiogenesis is not understood” as if restating ignorance were an argument. That’s exactly the point; it’s not understood, and naming it doesn’t explain it. You have no mechanism by which mindless chemistry produces a coded information system with error correction and semantic rules, so you retreat to lazy ridicule and slogans about “sky programmers.” You have nothing. You don’t have an ‘audience’ you spoofing eejit. Saying “science doesn’t fully understand consciousness” isn’t an argument.The contradiction lies in claiming that consciousness both requires a living organism and yet is not reducible to its physical processes. You can’t make consciousness contingent on matter while denying that it’s material.More importantly, invoking scientific ignorance as a resting point is not an explanation - it’s epistemic surrender.The real issue isn’t that science “hasn’t discovered it yet,” but that the tools of science, which measure objective phenomena, are in principle incapable of capturing subjective experience. Until you can explain how first-person awareness emerges from or interacts with third-person brain states without collapsing into dualism or contradiction, you haven’t answered the question and you can’t.Tiger 6 - 0 Jimmy</blockquote>

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