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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fishalt" data-source="post: 25605" data-attributes="member: 228">I've read the selfish gene, the god delusion, the greatest show on earth and another that I can't remember the title of. I know you're probably blown away by Richard, but he's a fairly basic writer and I wouldn't describe his work as especially challenging, which to be fair is probably by design. Even the origin of species was written in such a way that the layman could understand it. He drips with arrogance for a pop scientist however. If you want to know what humility in high, high-end science looks like, go watch an Ed Witten lecture.Extreme empiricism, or dustbowl empiricism, cannot and does not accurately describe the human experience and denies a fundamental part of what it is that makes us human. A society based on pure rationality would be a dystopian horror beyond anything humanity has ever experienced for this reason. I used to be like you--a raging atheist. I now agree with Baudrillard and Nietzsche--, that religion provides an extremely important psychological function whether it is embedded in truth or not. I do not believe coherent, moral societies are possible without God.The phrase there is more in heaven and earth than is dreamed of in your philosophy is a Shakespearean quote. It is from Hamlet. It doesn't mean what you think it does.  It means that at any given time, the knowledge set of human understanding is limited, and cannot account for everything in the universe. It is a truism borne out when looking at the history of science, which is mutable and subject to change over time.</blockquote>

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