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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fishalt" data-source="post: 25619" data-attributes="member: 228">I don't even need to. You can see it happening in real time. Transism, things like MAID in Canada--both are consequences of purely logical, empirical solutions to humanitarian problems.You can extend this problem exponentially until the sanctity of human life, the rights of the individual, and the basic right to existence is completely eroded--until not only do none of these things hold any value, but it makes sense--and is indeed logically ethical that human beings are exterminated entirely.Science is concerned with how. That is what it is very good at it. What it is very bad at is asking why. Or 'should'?What is true is not always what is right. Let me explain:Eugenics works. Oh yes, it does. It is entirely possible to breed human beings based on traits and types, or to gene edit them, to produce desired physical and psychological traits, and to weed out the undesirable.  This fact is not immoral. It is amoral. However, whenever eugenics has been implemented, it has resulted in atrocities.If we transition to a society where information processing, logic and empiricism are all that is valued--or values are assessed according to how highly any given thing, being or phenomenon scores in these categories, then human beings become utterly redundant and regarded as pathogenic. There would be no grounds for our continued existence to be justified at all. Machines will and already do outcompete us in all these capacities by a factor that is entirely insurmountable.</blockquote>

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