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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Haven" data-source="post: 132758" data-attributes="member: 5537">I have to disagree.It seems to me Putin has lost. Of course the war will continue but maybe not for long. The key decisions have already been made.Wars are fought for objectives. Putins objective was to prevent Ukraine moving irrevocably into the Western sphere. While he could not force regime change in the initial invasion, he stuck to aims like Ukraine completely demiliterising and the like, and other goals like NATO retreating west, etc.Now the US, and Trump, are commiting to Ukraine. Trump's a commercial guy at heart, he wants a return. He can't get that if those minerials cant be mined due to the threat of Russian attack. I expect he wants to protect his new assets. I would not be surprised if Ukraine gets all those Patriot missiles that Ukraine wanted to buy, thats 15B USD right there, from European money.Besides Putin is expending his new arms almost as soon as he produces them, rather than being able to build up a new force, so its probably in his interests to stop. He's either spending millions killing a few Ukr civilians or losing a few hundred men every time he takes a couple of fields. Neither advances what he wanted.The US is commiting itself to east of Poland, if they want their billions back. The Europeans are probably delighted. I'm sure there will be falling out with Zelensky from time to time but its noise.</blockquote>

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