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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fishalt" data-source="post: 40095" data-attributes="member: 228">No, M1A2. No, I don't think it is.I can't wait to hear how you're going to try to sell this one to me. This isn't going to push NATO countries into the conflict. It's not going to help Ukraine get into NATO. All it's going to do is increase inflationary pressure in Europe and make the continuation of the war more unpopular than it is--which is considerably.There's no 4D chess being played here. Ukraine is a desperate, cornered animal doing desperate, cornered animal things. The counteroffensive has been a bust. They've made no significant progress, and Russia has over 100k fucking troops deployed and ready to roll.  They're also back to annexing territory. And now Ukraine has lost control of and access to its last major port. Are you really so deluded that you can't see that a Ukrainian victory would ostensibly be a miracle at this point?It would be unbelievable to me that you can't see the writing on the wall if this was easily explainable by the fact you're now in the inescapable position of having to confront the fact that you backed the wrong horse, and drunk the kool aid.  Will you still be here arguing that Ukraine has the upper hand, even when Odessa is occupied by Russian forces? Probably.</blockquote>

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