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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mad as Fish" data-source="post: 43496" data-attributes="member: 396">What I have been picking up of late is that there appears to be a growing divergence of opinion between the Ukr army and NATO. NATO, most probably egged on by the neocon nutters in the Whitehouse, want a full scale assault with lots of MSM pleasing bangs and flashes and a deep penetration into the disputed regions. Ukr, on the other hand, realise they just haven't the strength to do that and can do no more than pick away at the edges and make out that each barn reconquered is a mighty triumph.Understandable, as the concentration of forces preparing for a large assault will weaken the line elsewhere and become an easy target for Russian air strikes, if the necessary forces exist in the first place, which I doubt.It's all to do with the optics rather than reality and thousands of lives are being lost due to the stupidity and downright evil of NATO's bosses.Russia has won this, anybody who lives outside the western propaganda bubble knows it, yet there are movements and egos needing a western win no matter what the cost. Russian victory will set the global agenda back decades, so it cannot be seen to happen and fuck the poor bloody infantry.The end has been predicted for months, but it hasn't happened yet, nor will it for a long time, not until the elite have realised that Putin has them beat and a plan B is in place, but I've no idea what form that might take.</blockquote>

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