What defines the authentic Right?

[SwordOfStZip]

I was about to ask this question to a poster on another thread but than I thought that this topic deserves a thread of it's own.

Someone on P.ie maintained that what defined the Right as opposed to the Left is that the former is primarily motivated by fear and the latter is primarily motivated by hope. Now fear can be very prudent and wise and hope can be hope for wrong things or even hope for the right things but held in a manner where it over rides things like prudence and so becomes destructive.

T.E. Hulme maintained that what separates Right and Left is that the former believes in Original Sin while as the former believes that humanity is perfectable by it's own efforts. Jonathan Bowden believed that the Right was defined in seeing inequality as not an evil but rather a good.

So what in your opinion makes someone one person a member of the authentic Right and another person not so?

 

[AN2]

"Someone on P.ie maintained that what defined the Right as opposed to the Left is that the former is primarily motivated by fear and the latter is primarily motivated by hope."

 

[AN2]

Well first off, keep in mind that these are the days when the far left and far right are beginning to meet, somewhat like a "horseshoe" effect.

So I knew what you were getting at when your avatar was Gad Saad.

What does it feel like to know that I can read you like a book and all you can say about me is a caricature you read in the Guardian?

“... The central belief of every moron is that he is the victim of a mysterious conspiracy against his common rights and true deserts…[he] ascribes all his failures to get on in the world, all of his congenital incapacity and damfoolishness, to the machinations of werewolves assembled in Wall Street, or some other such den of infamy...” (H L Mencken)

But I used to say that the term "far right" had come to refer less to the traditional spectrum of political views, and was more about a kind of view and irrationality, usually stemming from a certain "set" of online media.

For it is certainly not about having any coherent political view. Rather you can observe it is about being unable to think, being stupid, passive, a bigotry easily made appeal to, belief in conspiracy theories, whether around climate change or padedophile rings, or covid scepticism, LGBT+ demonisation, anti-immigrant rhetoric and so on.

Line them all up I say.

But the main point probably today is its capacity to spread. You hear idiots for example say it is "just talk" it only remains online, for example.

But its main characteristic is how it seeps into the soul, and thoughts, and words of the lowest common denominator who visit websites like these, or their social media feeds, and who are no doubt heard repeating what they have imbibed by their acquaintances, and possibly their children if they have any, and all the while this shit is seeping into their soul and thoughts, like a virus, spreading exponentially.

That's what we're actually talking about.

 

[SeekTheFairLand]

So I knew what you were getting at when your avatar was Gad Saad.

What does it feel like to know that I can read you like a book and all you can say about me is a caricature you read in the Guardian?

read in the Guardian if you can be bothered clicking away all those begging pop ups first

 

[AN2]

read in the Guardian if you can be bothered clicking away all those begging pop ups first

The article is like something @Mods vs Roc_ers could've written himself - as long as the names of the Zionist shills Robinson and Murray were removed.

I even noticed this bit (from a so-called journalist):

Maybe the book itself is not that bad? Maybe he’s turned over a new leaf?

It is that bad: I will not read it, because I will not buy it, because the day I put £24.99 or any fraction thereof into the pocket of Stephen Yaxley-Lennon is the day I’ve parted company with the material world.

lofl That's exactly what roc does. He openly boasts about having absolutely no knowledge of what he's judging

 

[AUL LAD]

I was about to ask this question to a poster on another thread but than I thought that this topic deserves a thread of it's own.

Someone on P.ie maintained that what defined the Right as opposed to the Left is that the former is primarily motivated by fear and the latter is primarily motivated by hope. Now fear can be very prudent and wise and hope can be hope for wrong things or even hope for the right things but held in a manner where it over rides things like prudence and so becomes destructive.

T.E. Hulme maintained that what separates Right and Left is that the former believes in Original Sin while as the former believes that humanity is perfectable by it's own efforts. Jonathan Bowden believed that the Right was defined in seeing inequality as not an evil but rather a good.

So what in your opinion makes someone one person a member of the authentic Right and another person not so?

currently there is a left but the right is like israel -- there is no official map published as it would limit the theft by the thieves.
the right is currently described by our MSM as an abusive term a threatening force thoroughly evil in its intent and we have to enact legislation to combat IT WHATEVER IT IS .
there is no middle class right allowed---- no upperclass right allowed.
only 1933 black and white clips of shouting and sudden arm movements from a man who shouts in German and who wears a trademark mustache which is never worn today .
in the blink of an eye the media take you from 2024 to 1933 and while you and yours have no German it is stated by those in power that the 1933 German (which they do not understand either ) is what you really mean -- so the left with their usual commonsense have made it impossible to define the right or to belong to the right as it currently does not exist in any formal sense.

 

[SeekTheFairLand]

Muh far right..

 

[SwordOfStZip]

Well first off, keep in mind that these are the days when the far left and far right are beginning to meet, somewhat like a "horseshoe" effect.

“... The central belief of every moron is that he is the victim of a mysterious conspiracy against his common rights and true deserts…[he] ascribes all his failures to get on in the world, all of his congenital incapacity and damfoolishness, to the machinations of werewolves assembled in Wall Street, or some other such den of infamy...” (H L Mencken)

But I used to say that the term "far right" had come to refer less to the traditional spectrum of political views, and was more about a kind of view and irrationality, usually stemming from a certain "set" of online media.

It is interesting that you use the Nietzschean argument of "Ressentiment" which he used against both Christianity and the Leftists of his day against your own real or imagined political enemies.

I agree that conspiracy theorizing can sometimes serve as a cop out from self-examination and owning up to responsibility and the consequences of one's own actions, I would disagree that it is always that. Ironically the "Left Liberal" wing of Neo-Liberalism and the Zionist movement, the forces most likely to decry conspiracy theorizing, regularly use conspiracy theories about Putin, the Muslim Brotherhood, the KGB, etc as such cop outs.

 

[Declan]

“... The central belief of every moron is that he is the victim of a mysterious conspiracy against his common rights and true deserts…

I think even Stevie Wonder can see it is not a conspiracy with people now getting 2 years in prison for a facebook post while serious maggots are let go because they are third world riff raff

 

[AN2]

View: https://t.me/realwelshnationalist/18027

 

[clarke-connolly]

View: https://t.me/realwelshnationalist/18027

I suggest that there can be little doubt that Keir Starmer is an Mi5 Agent !

 

[AN2]

I suggest that there can be little doubt that Keir Starmer is an Mi5 Agent !

Is he linked in some way to having the father of the Southport child murderer in the UK?

 

[clarke-connolly]

Is he linked in some way to having the father of the Southport child murderer in the UK?

It seems that way ~ ~ Starmer seems to have connections to lots of cases that the likes of Mi5 would be very interesting in controlling ~ ~ Un-likely to be a coincidence when you consider how the likes of Mi5 work !

 

[AN2]

 

[céline]

I think someone who is authentically right-wing thinks that the feudal period of history, even before Capitalism let's not even talk about Socialism is the best period of history. Following on from this, someone who is authentically right-wing is also necessarily an anti-Semite since Jews are inclined toward the usurious practices which lead to Communism which is for someone authentically right-wing the worst case scenario.

 

[AUL LAD]

I think someone who is authentically right-wing thinks that the feudal period of history, even before Capitalism let's not even talk about Socialism is the best period of history. Following on from this, someone who is authentically right-wing is also necessarily an anti-Semite since Jews are inclined toward the usurious practices which lead to Communism which is for someone authentically right-wing the worst case scenario.

you know the brand of beer which has for years said PROBABLY the finest beer .
it now leaves out the ad and as we are so well trained they arrogantly just use the word PROBABLY to announce their product and they are correct in their judgement that we have been house trained to respond to the word probably only and they now in your face use the fact that you are now house trained to sell you only average beer by using just one word to do so .
i have never seen such house trained daftness -- none of what you say makes even a small bit of sense .
you are the only person i have ever heard of that believes the feudal times are what we all pine for ,
to state i and thousands like me who have posted for years about NON SEMITIC ISRAELIS being the greatest antisemities and greatest murderers of Semitic people in the history of mankind and this year the lancet states they have murdered over 150,000 Semites in the past few months .
but when you and your children use ALL the Jewish search engines none of them will tell you what the lancet states and what every UN agency states and what save the children and hundreds of NGOs state that Israel is engaged in the genocide of millions of Semites
usurious practices did not lead to communism JACOB SCHIFF BANKER GAVE 22 MILLION TO LEON TROTSKY to start the Russian revolution in order to rob Russia= historical fact .
who are the people you know who are AUTHENTICALLY right wing -- who are the right wing in Ireland -they are not visible to me--we are in an election and i am not aware of any party which campaigned they were on the right --there are a host of parties which scream we are of the left.
Adolph Hitler stated he was a socialist above all else and his brand was national socialism which is not permitted today by the socialists as it exposes their communism made to serve ideology instead of this Irish state and people .
communism is juadisim .
Karl Marx real name Moses mordachai levy and Engles and Trotsky and Jacob schiff are not eskimoes .

 

[céline]

you know the brand of beer which has for years said PROBABLY the finest beer .
it now leaves out the ad and as we are so well trained they arrogantly just use the word PROBABLY to announce their product and they are correct in their judgement that we have been house trained to respond to the word probably only and they now in your face use the fact that you are now house trained to sell you only average beer by using just one word to do so .
i have never seen such house trained daftness -- none of what you say makes even a small bit of sense .
you are the only person i have ever heard of that believes the feudal times are what we all pine for ,
to state i and thousands like me who have posted for years about NON SEMITIC ISRAELIS being the greatest antisemities and greatest murderers of Semitic people in the history of mankind and this year the lancet states they have murdered over 150,000 Semites in the past few months .
but when you and your children use ALL the Jewish search engines none of them will tell you what the lancet states and what every UN agency states and what save the children and hundreds of NGOs state that Israel is engaged in the genocide of millions of Semites
usurious practices did not lead to communism JACOB SCHIFF BANKER GAVE 22 MILLION TO LEON TROTSKY to start the Russian revolution in order to rob Russia= historical fact .
who are the people you know who are AUTHENTICALLY right wing -- who are the right wing in Ireland -they are not visible to me--we are in an election and i am not aware of any party which campaigned they were on the right --there are a host of parties which scream we are of the left.
Adolph Hitler stated he was a socialist above all else and his brand was national socialism which is not permitted today by the socialists as it exposes their communism made to serve ideology instead of this Irish state and people .
communism is juadisim .
Karl Marx real name Moses mordachai levy and Engles and Trotsky and Jacob schiff are not eskimoes .

What exactly is your point? That usury doesn't lead to Communism?

 

[AUL LAD]

What exactly is your point? That usury doesn't lead to Communism?

Did you not read which usurious banker partner in kuhne loeb and co PAID 22 million for the bolshevik revolution which had 15 of the 17 members of the comitern as jewish .
usury does not lead to communism therefore if the communists are usurious jews to start with .