Founder of Telegram Pavel Durov arrested in France

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How else are they going to Stop Civil War in the Future ? !

There repressiveness I think is actually going to make a civil war more likely and when it comes more bloody because people are denied the release of venting, off letting off the metaphorical steam. Why do you think that Hate Speech legislation in the six counties is not nearly as strict as it is on the UK mainland?
 

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There repressiveness I think is actually going to make a civil war more likely and when it comes more bloody because people are denied the release of venting, off letting off the metaphorical steam. Why do you think that Hate Speech legislation in the six counties is not nearly as strict as it is on the UK mainland?
News this morning accusing the UDA of burning down a restaurant that they mistakenly believed belonged to a Muslim. The potential for real violence is greater than in GB
 

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Moscow calls out Western human rights groups over Durov arrest​

When the Telegram messaging app had legal issues in Russia, its founder remained free, the foreign ministry’s spokeswoman noted
Moscow calls out Western human rights groups over Durov arrest

Russian Foreign Ministry’s spokeswoman Maria Zakharova attends her weekly briefing in Moscow. © Sputnik / Sergey Guneev
Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova has asked if international human rights groups will pressure France over the arrest of Telegram founder and CEO Pavel Durov, given the harsh criticism levied at Russia several years ago when it tried to regulate the messaging app’s operations.
The Russian entrepreneur was detained at Paris-Le Bourget Airport on Saturday and is set to appear in court on Sunday evening. The French authorities had reportedly issued an arrest warrant for Durov, arguing that insufficient moderation allows for Telegram to be widely used by criminals.
Zakharova, who took to Telegram on Sunday, recalled how in 2018 a group of 28 NGOs, including Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, Freedom House and Reporters Without Borders, condemned a Russian court decision to block Telegram in the country.
Those NGOs demanded that Moscow “stop creating obstacles to Telegram’s operations” at the time and guarantee the rights of users to publish and anonymously consume information online, she wrote.
US is behind Durov’s arrest – senior Russian official
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US is behind Durov’s arrest – senior Russian official

They called upon the UN, the Council of Europe, the OSCE (Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe), the EU, the US and other governments to resist Russia's move and protect the fundamental rights of freedom of expression and privacy, the spokeswoman recalled.
Zakharova reminded the NGOs that Moscow had legal issues with Telegram over the technical parameters of its encryption system, like many other countries. “Meanwhile, Durov remained free all this time, continuing to develop Telegram,” she stressed.
"What do you think, will they [the NGOs] appeal to Paris this time and demand Durov’s release, or will they swallow their tongues?”the spokeswoman asked her audience.
Facebook, Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) were blocked by court order in Russia after the escalation of the conflict between Moscow and Kiev in February 2022, but Telegram remains operational in the country.
READ MORE: Top Russian MP urges France to release Telegram founder
Earlier, the deputy speaker of the Russian parliament, Vladislav Davankov, called upon France to release Durov. The tech entrepreneur’s arrest “could be politically motivated and used to gain access to the personal information of Telegram users,”which Moscow cannot allow, he wrote in a post on Telegram
 

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FreePavel: Elon Musk reacts to Durov’s arrest​

The founder and CEO of Telegram was reportedly detained upon arriving at Paris-Le Bourget airport on Saturday
#FreePavel: Elon Musk reacts to Durov’s arrest

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US tech mogul Elon Musk has called for the release of Telegram founder and CEO Pavel Durov, who was arrested on Saturday shortly after arriving at Paris-Le Bourget airport. Authorities in France believe that the 39-year-old dual Russian-French national is complicit in a range of crimes allegedly committed on his platform, arguing that insufficient moderation allows for Telegram to be widely used to break the law.
The X (formerly Twitter) owner took to the platform to post a video of Durov talking to American conservative journalist Tucker Carlson about freedom of speech online and claiming that he was happy about the fact that Musk had purchased Twitter. Musk coupled the video with the hashtag ‘#FreePavel’.
He was swift to publicly condemn the reported arrest. “POV: It’s 2030 in Europe and you’re being executed for liking a meme,” he wrote in a comment to a news story.
Musk also wrote ‘Dangerous times’ in his reaction to a post listing different countries where “free speech is under attack” that mentions France’s reported arrest of Durov.

According to French media outlets, Durov arrived in France by private jet from Azerbaijan’s capital Baku. The tech entrepreneur was reportedly accompanied by a bodyguard and an assistant. Le Figaro, citing sources, reported that Durov was supposed to spend at least one evening in Paris, where he had planned to have dinner.
READ MORE: ‘Darkness descending’: Tucker Carlson reacts to reports of Durov’s arrest
Durov holds citizenship in the United Arab Emirates, Saint Kitts and Nevis, France and his native Russia. Moscow’s embassy in Paris has said it is looking into the situation, although it has not received an official request for assistance so far.
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Soon USSR will look like the last outpost of speech freedom
European political elites can survive if people have access only to propaganda outlets under the control of the political establishment
Even Putin let him go to exile

View: https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1827460234887008277


Not quite, Putin has an arrest warrant out for him too.

Pavel created a Russian Facebook that Putin wanted the FSB to have back into, which he refused, Hence why he fled Russia.
 

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Yep.
The yank terrorists order their minions about and they do exactly what they're told.

US is behind Durov’s arrest – senior Russian official​

The arrest of the Telegram founder in France is the direct result of Washington’s sanctions, Ekaterina Mizulina has said
US is behind Durov’s arrest – senior Russian official

Ekaterina Mizulina, head of the Safe Internet League. © Sputnik
The US ordered the French authorities to arrest Telegram founder Pavel Durov as part of its sanctions framework, Ekaterina Mizulina, the head of Russia’s Safe Internet League and a member of the Civic Chamber, has claimed.
Writing on Telegram on Sunday, Mizulina said that Durov’s arrest at a Paris airport, reportedly on charges related to alleged complicity in fraud, drug trafficking, cyberbullying, and promoting terrorism, did not come as a surprise to her.
“I have long believed that traveling outside of Russia is a big risk for Telegram owners, as they could be arrested at any moment,” she noted, recounting that similar incidents where people had been detained at the behest of the US had occurred before.
“It is obvious that the arrest is an attack on TON [a blockchain-based platform originally developed by Telegram’s creators] in which major Russian companies have invested. That is, in part, a continuation of the US sanctions policy,” she stated.
French police arrest Telegram founder Durov
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French police arrest Telegram founder Durov

The official added she believed “that the Americans are behind the situation as a whole,” arguing that Telegram, which has over 900 million monthly active users worldwide, is a thorn in their side in terms of information distribution. According to Mizulina, the French authorities did not act independently in their decision to arrest Durov.
“It turns out that all the overtures to the West by Telegram’s owners were a mistake. Our president [Vladimir Putin] warned about this many times, but no one believed him,” she concluded.
Durov holds citizenship in the United Arab Emirates, Saint Kitts and Nevis, France and his native Russia. Moscow's embassy in Paris has said it is looking into the situation, although it has not received an official request for assistance.
 

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Durov to Appear Before French Judge Tonight, facing 20 years of jail- TF1

The Telegram CEO faces a potential indictment on Sunday for alleged ties to terrorism, drugs, fraud, money laundering, and child exploitation content. He could face up to 20 years in prison."

New details about Pavel Durov's arrest:

- Durov did not want to land in France, but his plane had to refuel there.
- He was arrested right at the steps of his private jet.
- The EU plans to conduct a high-profile trial with the maximum possible number of charges.
- The trial will take place soon, as the legal framework was prepared in secret.
- Durov will be pressured to grant access to ANY correspondence or chat of interest to the prosecution.

Feels like a really well played psyops

The French warrant for Pavel Durov was valid, ONLY, if Durov ever found himself on French soil

This research mandate ran if, and only if, Pavel Durov were in the national territory. "He made a pellet tonight. We don't know why... Was this theft just one step? In any case, it is ready-made", slips a source close to the investigation to TF1/LCI. Ever since he knew himself persona non grata in France, Pavel Durov used to travel to the Emirates, to the countries of the former USSR, to South America ... He had travelled very little in Europe and avoided the countries where Telegram is under surveillance.
📝: Pavel Durov either made a critical mistake or essentially handed himself over to French authorities for some unknown reason.
 

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How the EU tightened the noose on Telegram​

Before Pavel Durov’s arrest, the messaging app’s “Russian origins” placed it in the bloc’s crosshairs
How the EU tightened the noose on Telegram

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The arrest in France of Telegram founder Pavel Durov is the latest escalation in an EU-wide campaign against the Russian entrepreneur and his privacy-focused messaging app. After limited bans in some member states, officials in Brussels announced earlier this year that they would bend their own laws to enforce censorship rules on the platform.
Durov, who holds French citzenship, was arrested at Paris-Le Bourget Airport on Saturday, immediately after arriving from Azerbaijan by private jet. According to French media, prosecutors in Paris plan to accuse the 39-year-old of complicity in drug trafficking, pedophilia offenses, and fraud. They will reportedly argue that Telegram’s insufficient content moderation, its strong encryption tools, and its alleged lack of cooperation with police allow criminality to flourish on the app.
In the years leading up to Durov’s arrest, EU officials and individual member states have targeted Telegram with bans, regulations, and threats of legal action.
2021: Germany calls for actionAfter a group of radical anti-vaxxers were arrested for allegedly plotting on Telegram to kill the governor of the state of Saxony in 2021, German Justice Minister Marco Buschmann called for an EU-wide effort to restrict the platform.
EU mulls expanding digital surveillance over every citizen – media
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EU mulls expanding digital surveillance over every citizen – media


Throughout the coronavirus pandemic, governors and regional interior ministers in Germany had expressed displeasure with Telegram’s refusal to ban anti-lockdown protesters, and Buschmann argued that common EU action would “make a bigger impression” on Telegram than “each country trying to do that on its own.”

Telegram was and still is headquartered in Dubai, and Durov reportedly refused to communicate with the German authorities. German Interior Minister Nancy Faeser warned at the time that Berlin was “not going to put up with” Durov’s refusal to cooperate.

2022-2024: Bans and restrictionsThe Ukraine conflict gave national and local governments across the West an excuse to throttle Telegram, with the Norwegian Justice Ministry citing the platform’s “Russian origins” when it forbade government employees from installing the app on their work devices last year.
Amsterdam’s municipal government also invoked the alleged threat of “foreign espionage” when it issued a similar ban for employees of the Dutch city last week, while France last year ordered civil servants to switch from Telegram and other messaging apps to locally-developed alternatives over security fears.

In March of this year, Spain’s high court ordered the country’s mobile providers to block access to Telegram, while claims of copyright violations could be investigated. Although the ruling was overturned within days, the investigation is ongoing.
2024: Censorship crackdownThe EU’s Digital Services Act (DSA), which came into force earlier this year, requires so-called ‘Very Large Online Platforms’ (those with more than 45 million monthly users) to comply with a host of data protection and advertising-related rules. Such platforms are also required to “address the spread of disinformation,” a term that the DSA mentions more than a dozen times without providing a definition.

‘Darkness descending’: Tucker Carlson reacts to reports of Durov’s arrest
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‘Darkness descending’: Tucker Carlson reacts to reports of Durov’s arrest

While Telegram claims to have 41 million monthly users in the EU, European Commission Vice President for Values and Transparency Vera Jourova told Bloomberg in May that the platform is a “special case,” and would be investigated and potentially placed on the list anyway.

Jourova accused Telegram of enabling the spread of Russian “disinformation,” and called it “an issue” that the platform is “especially active in the eastern member states where we have a Russian-speaking minority.”
Ahead of this potential regulation, Telegram has appointed a Brussels-based company as its legal representative in the EU, meaning that Belgian authorities will be responsible for enforcing EU law against Durov’s company. Last week, the Belgian Institute of Post and Telecommunications (BIPT) announced that it still could not prove that Telegram had more than 41 million monthly users.

The DSA allows the EU to fine platforms as much as 6% of their global annual turnover if they break its rules. The law also allows repeat offenders to be banned from operating in the bloc.
 

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H for hypocrisy
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The somewhat infantile stance of libertarian absolutists is that there should be no limits on free speech. But a free society is not just about freedom of expression. It also revolves around the observance of laws and the protection of other precious human rights. Democracies may be messy but they are the best mechanisms we know for adjudicating between these freedoms and rights.
 

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Pavel should leave France, now that he has been released, and never return. He will be Assanged otherwise. Rumors that the accusations were trumped up. They want his head
 

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Democracy now is more a religion based mostly on faith with the main purpose of keeping people under the control of political establishment
Yes and under the illusion that they've some sort of say about policy.

Eg, over 70% of Democratic party voters want Medicare for all, yet the donors don't so they don't get it.

Democracy?
 

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Democracy now is more a religion based mostly on faith with the main purpose of keeping people under the control of political establishment
As has been observed.
If it did too much good it would be banned.
 

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Good to see some mod on here taking instruction from a damaged freak on the isle...😂
 

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