Oh no
There's a reason why it'be 'cheap'.
Should I buy a pub in Ireland.
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There's a reason why it'be 'cheap'.
Why not buy in Rathkeale, Co. Limerick? Nice place. What would you call it? eh?
The Traveller's Inn, The Traveller's Halt, The Gypsy Rover, The wild River?
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Can you discuss this by private message please.
It will be cheap, so what, Kit it out like Eddie Rockets. Stainless steel mirrors.
In Ballyb you'd need chicken wire to shield your staff too. Stainless steel mirrors. I like your thinking, Val.
Oh, so it will be a private pub, then it won't be a pub under Irish law. Who will be drinking in it?
The bar stools will need to be bolted to the floor. Shivering, Tables too, No glass ware at all,In Ballyb you'd need chicken wire to shield your staff too. Stainless steel mirrors. I like your thinking, Val.
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Everyone except @Myles O'Reilly and @free and clean
@Kangal says he would do the bar to fill yanks with complete fiction
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I had a man send me a video of downtown a couple of days ago. It was clean and tidy but strangly there was hardly a smell ngle person on the streets and only an odd car driving by.
it was about noon on Monday just passed
it was about noon on Monday just passed
Are we talking about Ballybunion?
I can tell you the season here is strangely subdued. Very quiet, not joyful at all. Could be the shocking weather, or maybe something else. There is a pall over everything.
Very sad, I have a massive struggle keeping my children in a positive mindset. Except for one - who dropped everything, literally. And lives like like an itinerant
working from place to place. Has an MSc, but works in stables, farms etc in sunnier places.
I was sceptic at first, but by now I see the appeal.
Wait. You banned Myles? Why?
Ah that's nice. It will be a great place for a quiet whiskey.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br37nowNvzA
It's not Myles himself who is the problem, its the crowd he will bring in with him.
33 years ago pubs still made money and were upgrading their colour TV sets. The Rathkeale Rivers bought hundreds of sets. They also managed to buy brand new casings for the same TVs.
The selected all that were still working throwing out the rest. The buyers demanded to see them working and the sets were popped up on the tables and shown to work perfectly. They fooled them into believing they were new sets. Next morning the Rovers were gone. Word got round, back panels were removed OMG!
The selected all that were still working throwing out the rest. The buyers demanded to see them working and the sets were popped up on the tables and shown to work perfectly. They fooled them into believing they were new sets. Next morning the Rovers were gone. Word got round, back panels were removed OMG!
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The price of hospitality has absolutely sky rockedted post "covid", I know a hotel that's now charging 850€ for a 3 nights stay, in 2019 the same 3 night stay was about 400€.
Yes. I'm El Cheapo. I used to buy a HOSTEL bed for 20 to 30 quid. A place to kip after going out. The other day I was quoted 100 quid. For a bunk. Well eff that.
Yes I could pay for the 5 star on the outskirts - but I refuse to.
This price inflation - caused by gov subsidising 'fugees' in their crony hotels, in other words, bastardising the market -
which WILL DESTROY THE TOURISM INDUSTRY.
Or what is left of it. Shur they don't care - the money printer pays THEM.
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No, myles is not banned, but he appears to be on strike.
the only one banned this year is david/electricity and @cleannand free a few days ago for talking about two lugs that I have well forgotten about.
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Courtneys is still for sale. In fact I believe that none of the ones I was following have sold and others have been added. And they will not sell as none are profitable . I was to make a decision in November but why rush. Ireland has s going down the crapper and the euro is going to be toast. I am reminded of the doorman in Weimer Germany that was tipped a gold sovereign from a rich englishman and he later used it to buy the hotel itself.
Going down the crapper, yes the signs are there. Many established well run restaurants and cafés who are popular with their many patrons are now closing due to the 'cost of doing business' in the rip off Ireland.
Various taxes, rents, fees, wages, rates, insurance cover, increased energy(with more taxes included) and food costs etc etc etc etc have made it impossible for the businesses to make a profit.
Can you imagine being responsible for paying the bills?? Too many outstretched hands grabbing all the money which has taken your organisation of hard work day into night to earn and yet accounts are constantly dipping into the red, even though the place is full
Various taxes, rents, fees, wages, rates, insurance cover, increased energy(with more taxes included) and food costs etc etc etc etc have made it impossible for the businesses to make a profit.
Can you imagine being responsible for paying the bills?? Too many outstretched hands grabbing all the money which has taken your organisation of hard work day into night to earn and yet accounts are constantly dipping into the red, even though the place is full
. . . . due to the unfolding circumstances of the next stock market financial crash!
Remembering the fallout from the tiger crash 16 years ago (not many talk about or appear to remember it) and how the pubs went up for sale in Dun laoghaire and sure didn't the local street Newspaper seller buy and operate 4 of the most popular (and pricey in their day) pubs on the high street.
Suddenly it was 3 pints for a tenner €10
Remembering the fallout from the tiger crash 16 years ago (not many talk about or appear to remember it) and how the pubs went up for sale in Dun laoghaire and sure didn't the local street Newspaper seller buy and operate 4 of the most popular (and pricey in their day) pubs on the high street.
Suddenly it was 3 pints for a tenner €10
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Sarsfielders ? !
The only way is pick a town of 2,000 to 3,000 with no sit down food place already and with room for a kitchen and sit down. You must do good wholesome meals at 12.30 to 2.30 and 5.30 to 8.30. No more than 3 choices with fish on Friday.
The seen has changed from drink to food. Otherwise you could do a disco thing with a bigger premised. The pub cull is tapering off and some
are reopening.
I am the only one why knows good food. There is so much bad food out there. Customers wont tell you. They just stay away. Watch the plates coming back. If its coming back they cannot eat it. Got burgers last week. Sickening shinny red mush with no grains at all. A semi soup. yuck
The seen has changed from drink to food. Otherwise you could do a disco thing with a bigger premised. The pub cull is tapering off and some
are reopening.
I am the only one why knows good food. There is so much bad food out there. Customers wont tell you. They just stay away. Watch the plates coming back. If its coming back they cannot eat it. Got burgers last week. Sickening shinny red mush with no grains at all. A semi soup. yuck
Going down the crapper, yes the signs are there. Many established well run restaurants and cafés who are popular with their many patrons are now closing due to the 'cost of doing business' in the rip off Ireland.
Various taxes, rents, fees, wages, rates, insurance cover, increased energy(with more taxes included) and food costs etc etc etc etc have made it impossible for the businesses to make a profit.
Can you imagine being responsible for paying the bills?? Too many outstretched hands grabbing all the money which has taken your organisation of hard work day into night to earn and yet accounts are constantly dipping into the red, even though the place is full
A fella called Eastwood they called him Clint Eastwood took over a failing pub in my town and lasted 7 weeks. He done a runner leaving an electricity bill of 30,000 yoyos.
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Josie Bales ! ! !
how to make enemies in a small town .
the local filling station in the 70s had to ration petrol and would give only 20 pounds worth and you join the queue for another 2 hours but could be refused and i was refused .
at night the SELECT FEW filled their cars and drums and were seen .
thousands of us would sooner starve than go there again and he had to close years later he was blacked.
some places are doing well take abbeyleix bakery Muller and o O'Connell look them up on facebook or elsewhere .
they would be a high end bakery in new York or LA or London .
they are in a rural town in abbeyleix and the o O'Connell family are relations of the darina Allen family .
the quality is stunning and is simply not available elsewhere .
kilkenny has Aran but kilkenny is totally different to anywhere else in Ireland .
my wife's Kilkenny primary school has 2 orchestras and generally win all competitions each year and it is the only school i know of where people sell their homes to move to the parish to get their kids into the school.
the judgement of any town is in the garda station look at the list to get into kilkenny and look at the list to get out of longford .
any idiot can buy a pub and start to cook bad food and lose their shirt .
the formula is wealth --some body needs wealth to make it work .
wealth is like the skills of the muller/oconnells or airgead to get you prime position in a building that is purpose built for your dream not some crumbling wreck than nobody will ever let you fix/modify and which you pay HUGE RENT AND RATES .
you cannot run a business while tied to a bed while parasites take your very blood and like me they take you to court for rates and tell you your children will pay you will never pass it on to them they will pay what we say with interest and fuck you .
a barrister to fight rates charges an up front fee and a slice of whatever he re negotiates which was a route i could not afford and i eventually after 5 years got an inspection of the premises and a deal was struck as it was unoccupied after i was attacked by a transit van and had to learn to walk again.
these people do not give way and it took a MEP to get them to revisit the premises .
if you start with high overheads you are fucked --if you cook common shite you are fucked --you have to be better than the rest and give more .
all your gear has to be good --the best INDUSTRIAL glass washing machines LANGTONS winner of pub of the year more times than anyone else takes out the thermostat from their machines and have a dedicated one for just washing cups and glasses which had milk in them to make sure they do not get sued for transmitting a disease and the glasses must be cleaner than anyone else's full stop .
menus in many places are designed to give you only a morsel of meat or fish and the rest is cheap chaff and shite in bowls on a plate to stop the chef from feeding you properly.
everyone knows when they are being had and the rates have taken the meat off your plate that you should have had for yourself .
if you make money they will line up to rob you and then the amount of people who will find nails in your custard and slip on your floor that they wet and took a photo of and had their granny witness your CARELESSNESS and lack of staff to keep the place SAFE .
you will need a jockeys neck and a big responsibility will kill you physically and the suppliers are key --fresh veg prepared and put into high tech ovens dedicated to the food you produce will allow you to produce something in the time required without highly qualified staff which you cannot replace when somebody pinches them and they give no notice .
a very clever and very experienced chef who will charge you plenty to set you up with a kitchen and workflow design and menu and most important advise you re suppliers which wont cost you.
this advice will be worth every penny as you cannot learn after investing hundreds of thousands that you do not have experience. .
your suppliers will have to have production exit metal detectors and be prepared to come to court to show they could not have supplied you food which was untested.
if you have one swinging door which the public can walk near they will find it in a week and you will learn what restaurant design is all about .
the list on the back of the toilet door is not to clean the place it is to deter the water /food slip merchants as they are given a small time window to pull their stunt off and they back off and do it somewhere they have no list of inspection.
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Exactly correct Aul Lad. I had a busy place myself for TWELVE YEARS after which I sold and walked away. I have no interest whatsoever of dealing with the public again, EVER.
I just want it for myself and friends
I just want it for myself and friends
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Perhaps TD Val will be able to secure us a grant
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If / When, Val becomes Taoiseach ~ ~ He will need us as advisors and hit-men ~ ~ And a place for us to meet up !Perhaps TD Val will be able to secure us a grant
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I have no interest in reading Aul Lad's huge post EVER.
Could you tell me what he said please?
That place could be a goldmine. Some foreigner bought land there and built it up. Ran it successfully for decades. Sold it to the Kilkenny Shop venture.
Tanked within the year.
You'll get it for less as it's faceless boardroom types own it.
If I just now had a mill lazing about I'd buy it myself.
Could be amazing.
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