Will the "Woke" be put away in Ireland?

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The DUP and TUV believe that the "Woke" being put away in England will bring back Prod Supremacy in the six counties. I think this is delusional however will the "Woke" being put away in the US have any effects here? In the short term I believe not really as there is nothing ideologically to hand with enough mass appeal to fill the gap for the Elites. I believe that John McGuirk honestly thinks that they will be coming knocking on his door but I think that that is unlikely to happen, but who knows?
 

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Officialdom may look to put the woke away but it's fairly institutionalised now

What really needs to happen is to put the 'Left' away, twas always thus
 

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Officialdom may look to put the woke away but it's fairly institutionalised now

What really needs to happen is to put the 'Left' away, twas always thus

The Left has never held power in the 26 counties.
 

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Okay what exactly do you mean by the Left?
It never seems to help when I do

What do you think woke is? Are we going back to this old trope (that never particularly appealed to me) that it's capitalism?
 

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The cheap money and NGO indulgence put the woke agenda on steroids.
Plus the proliferation of totally bogus liberal arts degrees and university departments dumbing down to accommodate same.
How much influence did the US MMC bring to bear with their DEI crap?
Woke was a financial bonanza for lots of cynical grifters. Political operators were fully on board with the crap too!
 

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The cheap money and NGO indulgence put the woke agenda on steroids.
Plus the proliferation of totally bogus liberal arts degrees and university departments dumbing down to accommodate same.
How much influence did the US MMC bring to bear with their DEI crap?
Woke was a financial bonanza for lots of cynical grifters. Political operators were fully on board with the crap too!

Yes and it has become a LOT less profitable now but that does not necessarily mean that people will not still cling to it.
 

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Yes and it has become a LOT less profitable now but that does not necessarily mean that people will not still cling to it.
And feel entitled to the benefits that they have been getting.
For basically screwing the taxpayers.
 

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Yes and it has become a LOT less profitable now but that does not necessarily mean that people will not still cling to it.
Not so sure that it was that popular generally, maybe in the cities, but not in the sticks.
 

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It never seems to help when I do

What do you think woke is? Are we going back to this old trope (that never particularly appealed to me) that it's capitalism?

Well Big Capital was pushing it but it seems they have changed their minds- "Academic Agent" agrees with me that a lot of it was top down and actually stuff that Musk's team have released to the public have confirmed that.

Do you consider Kevin Parlon to be part of the Left?


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWt3WwBJkR8
 

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Not so sure that it was that popular generally, maybe in the cities, but not in the sticks.

I was thinking about it's popularity amongst Senior to Middle Ranking Civil Servants, Academics, the urban Legal Profession and than also teachers, social workers, Garda, etc. I don't your think average manager of a Tescos in Dublin or Cork was much interested in or impacted directly by it.
 

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Well Big Capital was pushing it but it seems they have changed their minds- "Academic Agent" agrees with me that a lot of it was top down and actually stuff that Musk's team have released to the public have confirmed that.
I've never really blamed capitalism for wokeism. If there's money to be made in anything then you can blame anything on capitalism

Do you consider Kevin Parlon to be part of the Left?
No, why would I, when the left on Gaychat think that he's a Nazi

 

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I was thinking about it's popularity amongst Senior to Middle Ranking Civil Servants, Academics, the urban Legal Profession and than also teachers, social workers, Garda, etc. I don't your think average manager of a Tescos in Dublin or Cork was much interested in or impacted directly by it.
I think they are, they will be living in the same society and will have views upon how that society should operate, and not all of them are simple sheep to be led by the cadre you mention above. Defining people by their job alone can restrict our understanding of social functioning.
 

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No, why would I, when the left on Gaychat think that he's a Nazi

I really believe it is probable that you consider "The Nal" on P.ie to be part of the Left there (actually most of the Left got banned by the Canadian Sex Beast or latter on by Raimaker- as did a lot of the non-Nal type Right). Two of the mods there have actually literally called me a Neo-Nazi, I don't think that has happened to the Bould Kev.
 

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I really believe it is probable that you consider "The Nal" on P.ie to be part of the Left there (actually most of the Left got banned by the Canadian Sex Beast or latter on by Raimaker- as did a lot of the non-Nal type Right).
Why not, does he consider himself a centrist (it's the same thing)? As for "there", yes I see him on the 200,000 thread with the other leftists calling the rightists racist

Other than that, he appears to be a militant atheist (which would usually associate with leftism)

Two of the mods there have actually literally called me a Neo-Nazi, I don't think that has happened to the Bould Kev.
I didn't search for long but here are the first couple of examples I found - 1, 2
 

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Why not, does he consider himself a centrist (it's the same thing)? As for "there", yes I see him on the 200,000 thread with the other leftists calling the rightists racist

Other than that, he appears to be a militant atheist (which would usually associate with leftism)


I didn't search for long but here are the first couple of examples I found - 1, 2
There used to be a decent mix in that place one time

Sad!
 

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There used to be a decent mix in that place one time

Sad!
Well I'm all for decent mixes, me :)

In fairness, some people here are rather intolerant of other people's opinions (that oppose their own) too
 

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Well Big Capital was pushing it but it seems they have changed their minds- "Academic Agent" agrees with me that a lot of it was top down and actually stuff that Musk's team have released to the public have confirmed that.

Do you consider Kevin Parlon to be part of the Left?


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWt3WwBJkR8

Woke has done its job... it gains are entrenched now and the only blatant pushing of is being wrapped up. Have we moved back to a more non Woke/ PC environment? Could Ashers refuse to bake a cake for a gay wedding? Have gay weddings been repealed? Could you get away with a non-diverse workplace in a sizable company? The black/white mixed families still abound in advertising. Joy Reid getting the heave ho is not going to lead to other people of colour losing jobs in the rest of the media industry.

What have you in NI? Puberty blockers being banned below a certain age, and a resulting tiff between the lgbt lobby and it's political allies. Still, Pride parades will continue, presented as the alternative 12th July. The police are still chasing hate and thought crime incidents.

If woke has become entrenched intuitionally it will take alot more than just a few corporate leaders dialling down woke most egregious messaging. And if the MAGA side loses in 4 years it will be back with a vengeance if its not rooted out from its stronghold in NGOs etc. Note too how the Liberals in Canada have rebounded in polls since the Trump inauguration. Where the Canadian Conservatives were leading substantially they are now free falling as Canadians row in behind the wokester liberals.

Morgorth sometime ago predicted that the UK would be a Woke hermit state, a mirror image of North Korea. Where the rest of the world had moved on from it, the ideological capture of all parties including Reform meant that woke was firmly embedded. Given Ireland's proximity, it could be expected that Ireland would be included in that cultural dead end.
 

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Why not, does he consider himself a centrist (it's the same thing)? As for "there", yes I see him on the 200,000 thread with the other leftists calling the rightists racist

Other than that, he appears to be a militant atheist (which would usually associate with leftism)


I didn't search for long but here are the first couple of examples I found - 1, 2

No he considers himself Right wing.

Ayn Rand, Revilo P Oliver and Ben Klassen were all pretty militant atheists though the latter two only became at least publicly that after they left the John Birch Society so I would not necessarily associate it usually with Leftism at all.
 

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Woke has done its job... it gains are entrenched now and the only blatant pushing of is being wrapped up. Have we moved back to a more non Woke/ PC environment? Could Ashers refuse to bake a cake for a gay wedding? Have gay weddings been repealed? Could you get away with a non-diverse workplace in a sizable company? The black/white mixed families still abound in advertising. Joy Reid getting the heave ho is not going to lead to other people of colour losing jobs in the rest of the media industry.

No and no- however they could now for some "Trans" stuff. "Woke" still very much applies to "normal" homosexuality and Jews.
 

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No he considers himself Right wing.
Where's your evidence for that?

Ayn Rand, Revilo P Oliver and Ben Klassen were all pretty militant atheists though the latter two only became at least publicly that after they left the John Birch Society so I would not necessarily associate it usually with Leftism at all.
Exception doesn't change the rule

My guess with The Nal is that he thinks of himself as more of a centrist (which is the same as being a leftist), you know, the smartest kid in the room, opposed to both the far-left and the far-right
 

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Where's your evidence for that?


Exception doesn't change the rule

My guess with The Nal is that he thinks of himself as more of a centrist (which is the same as being a leftist), you know, the smartest kid in the room, opposed to both the far-left and the far-right

I remember that Mercurial associated contemporary aggressive atheism with the Hard Right (though Jordan Peterson has probably changed that).

roc_ considers himself a Centrist, he latest signature reads- “Extremism is so easy. You've got your position, and that's it. It doesn't take much thought. And when you go far enough to the right you meet the same idiots coming around from the left.". I though would consider roc_ but to be within the three most Right wing people I have encountered in Ireland. I am pretty certain the Nal though considers himself to be a man of the Right and I have asked him to confirm that.
 

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I remember that Mercurial associated contemporary aggressive atheism with the Hard Right (though Jordan Peterson has probably changed that).

roc_ considers himself a Centrist, he latest signature reads- “Extremism is so easy. You've got your position, and that's it. It doesn't take much thought. And when you go far enough to the right you meet the same idiots coming around from the left.". I though would consider roc_ but to be within the three most Right wing people I have encountered in Ireland. I am pretty certain the Nal though considers himself to be a man of the Right and I have asked him to confirm that.
@Mods vs Roc_ers is a 'centrist' because all he ever thinks about is what's bad for his/the Tribe.

So he's opposed to the far left and far right because they're both antisemitic (albeit differently), literally all he ever thinks about is antisemitism

(If and) Before you get an answer from The Nal, here is a post of theirs in which he-she says that (if he-she was American) he-she would be a lifelong Democrat voter. Some right-winger

Post in thread 'Trump caught with his pants down and issues stormy denial about Stormy Daniels.' https://politics.ie/threads/trump-c...ial-about-stormy-daniels.261569/post-11954525
 

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So he's opposed to the far left and far right because they're both antisemitic (albeit differently), literally all he ever thinks about is antisemitism

How though is that different from someone like Morgoth dwelling all the time on antiwhitism or some character in the TUV obsessing about anti-Prodism?

P.S. Did you Grok his new avatar? It had me giggling all over the place, it cheered me up in an odd way after my having been in a grumpy mood for most of today.
 

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How though is that different from someone like Morgoth dwelling all the time on antiwhitism or some character in the TUV obsessing about anti-Prodism?
First of all, let me ask you.. @Mods vs Roc_ers claims that he isn't a Jew, do you consider that either to be a lie or an irrelevance? 🤔

Morgoth is a white ethno-nationalist (as am I) so noticing antiwhiteism would be quite normal for him. For you, it's not noticeable at all, like a fish not noticing water. And that's because you are every bit as deracinated as any other far leftist (with your own particular peculiarity - basically religious)

P.S. Did you Grok his new avatar? It had me giggling all over the place, it cheered me up in an odd way after my having been in a grumpy mood for most of today.
roc's?
 

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First of all, let me ask you.. @Mods vs Roc_ers claims that he isn't a Jew, do you consider that either to be a lie or an irrelevance? 🤔

Morgoth is a white ethno-nationalist (as am I) so noticing antiwhiteism would be quite normal for him. For you, it's not noticeable at all, like a fish not noticing water. And that's because you are every bit as deracinated as any other far leftist (with your own particular peculiarity - basically religious)


roc's?

I consider it a fib- if I believed that he had been raised in a Christian home or even just under serious influence of the Gospel I would consider it a lie.

You sound extremely like a Frank Wilderson III or a David Hirsh with that analogy, only they would be speaking about anti-Black racism in the former's case and what you refer to as antisemitism in the case of the latter.

Yes roc's- he had put up the logo of a Vegan pacifist Individualist Anarchist punk band. There very few people in the 26 counties who are less pacifist in reality than he is and he is very far from being an individualist.
 

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I consider it a fib- if I believed that he had been raised in a Christian home or even just under serious influence of the Gospel I would consider it a lie.
The text you highlighted in my post in bold which you are ostensibly replying to had nothing to do with roc, it was about antiwhiteism

You are completely oblivious to antiwhiteism.. because you have zero racial consciousness, like any other far leftist

You sound extremely like a Frank Wilderson III or a David Hirsh with that analogy, only they would be speaking about anti-Black racism in the former's case and what you refer to as antisemitism in the case of the latter.
Yes roc's- he had put up the logo of a Vegan pacifist Individualist Anarchist punk band. There very few people in the 26 counties who are less pacifist in reality than he is and he is very far from being an individualist.
It looks to me like the scales of justice with what could be considered a somewhat Nazi-ish adornment, which would be somewhat amusing
 

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Rangers flag at Ibrox. Yesterday

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I consider it a fib- if I believed that he had been raised in a Christian home or even just under serious influence of the Gospel I would consider it a lie.
You sound extremely like a Frank Wilderson III or a David Hirsh with that analogy, only they would be speaking about anti-Black racism in the former's case and what you refer to as antisemitism in the case of the latter.
So I suppose this is probably what you were replying to in my post that you highlighted in bold

Can you not learn to reply to a post, properly.

All you need to do is hit the Return key after the text you're replying to, ffs

Yes roc's- he had put up the logo of a Vegan pacifist Individualist Anarchist punk band. There very few people in the 26 counties who are less pacifist in reality than he is and he is very far from being an individualist.
 

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To try to clear up this up this mess..

Morgoth is a white ethno-nationalist (as am I) so noticing antiwhiteism would be quite normal for him. For you, it's not noticeable at all, like a fish not noticing water.
You sound extremely like a Frank Wilderson III or a David Hirsh with that analogy, only they would be speaking about anti-Black racism in the former's case and what you refer to as antisemitism in the case of the latter.
So fucking what?
 

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Woke has done its job... it gains are entrenched now and the only blatant pushing of is being wrapped up. Have we moved back to a more non Woke/ PC environment? Could Ashers refuse to bake a cake for a gay wedding? Have gay weddings been repealed? Could you get away with a non-diverse workplace in a sizable company? The black/white mixed families still abound in advertising. Joy Reid getting the heave ho is not going to lead to other people of colour losing jobs in the rest of the media industry.

What have you in NI? Puberty blockers being banned below a certain age, and a resulting tiff between the lgbt lobby and it's political allies. Still, Pride parades will continue, presented as the alternative 12th July. The police are still chasing hate and thought crime incidents.

If woke has become entrenched intuitionally it will take alot more than just a few corporate leaders dialling down woke most egregious messaging. And if the MAGA side loses in 4 years it will be back with a vengeance if its not rooted out from its stronghold in NGOs etc. Note too how the Liberals in Canada have rebounded in polls since the Trump inauguration. Where the Canadian Conservatives were leading substantially they are now free falling as Canadians row in behind the wokester liberals.

Morgorth sometime ago predicted that the UK would be a Woke hermit state, a mirror image of North Korea. Where the rest of the world had moved on from it, the ideological capture of all parties including Reform meant that woke was firmly embedded. Given Ireland's proximity, it could be expected that Ireland would be included in that cultural dead end.
great post .
wokeness came from the top down .
there was no groundswell however what was seen is you could ATTACH various groups to the cultural Marxism imposed on us from on high ,
INVENT A FLAG AND GIVE THEM A COLOUR AND IT IS NOW THEIRS AND YOU CAN ADD COLORS INCLUDING NOW THE PEODO COLOUR.
these Marxists seemed to be already embedded in our media in particular and suddenly every talk show had to RECTIFY its age old prejudice which it was unaware of to include as many gay and out there gays as possible .
the future was gay the announcers were gay the new families were gay everything was gay then the ads changed ""MR AND MRS RYAN " of lidil; fame lit the country from end to end and the Marxists noticed they had gone too far and there was pushback and they toned it down for a bit .
but RTE would with miriams help give birth to a new gay each day on screen where some young lad was encouraged to come OUT to his family live on air and this joyful experience by the state overshadowed all the natural births in the coombe and rotunda that day by a good mile such was the bullshit attached .
we were all to bask in the coming out of some whaco in dyed hair who would announce elsewhere he was now going to fuck from morning to night anyone who came near .
i saw recently and not on rte that the HSE admitted they were trying to trace the 75 yes SEVENTY FIVE partners a monkey pox infected man had in Ireland in the past week 75!! in a fucking week .
when you look at this it comes from Zionism who wish to weaken us and destroy us .
most of the porn industry is Jewish and porn hub is owned by A RABBI .
the idf drop tons of porn by helicopter on to the gazans to destroy their next generation and when they captured the local tv they would broadcast porn 24/7 as it was the most destructive thing to do that they could think of.
we are all Palestinians now.
Marxism is another word for Zionism.
 
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Owing to your being so shut off from the world you have zero discernment, only empty slogans and double-tongued rhetoric.

Consider a teenager politicised through the records of that label.

And subsequently even taking up with Tolstoi's and Gandhi's philosophy of "turn the other cheek".

The question is, can you live it?

If you had family for example, who came under threat, could you continue to live and uphold this philosophy?

Actually these punk messages held many of the same political messages as you found say in the student union politics or trade union politics.

We know today for a fact that these messages were to a large extent emanating from the old Soviet Union, whose agencies infiltrated many western organisations to give a cachet of credibility and legitimacy to their political messages.

But the key difference with punk was where the Soviets were very careful in their orchestrated western "Peace" campaigns to make the distinction between "unjust wars" and “just wars” (which were those fought against capitalism, zionism, imperialism, and various other class enemies...), the message of punk was that all war was bullshit.

And I think perhaps that underlies the essential difference between me and most of you on these fora. It is the point that the rest of the logic cascades from.

Actually I think most of us who frequent these fora are to a large degree under the effect of the political messages imbibed in youth.

On this forum, certainly, you can detect a lot of the old incoherent pub politics that perpetually casts around for someone else to blame for their discontents, grievances, unhappiness, failures to get on in the world, and congenital incapacity.

While over on p.ie there is a large contingent of whom it is evident that their student union politics form the basis of their world view.

Whereas the message of this punk record label, as I already alluded to, was that there is no "just war".


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0ddOmzQlgY

Also accompanying that message, was the visceral hatred of lies and bullshit.

Of course the Soviet propaganda at the end of the day, under the veneer and vindication of its radical left right-on "revolutionism", consisted in essence of carefully constructed and legitimised lies.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m82Agr4Qg1k

But here's the thing. As a grown up with a family, past a youthful "punk" phase, is pacifism as a lived philosophy realistic?

Now, I would perhaps be willing to live the pacifist philosophy if it was just me alone who had to live and abide by that decision, and accept the consequences, and suffer under its logic.

But what about when you're responsible for others?

There is also the recognition that there is in reality no half-way house. Violence inevitably escalates.

As illustration, I remember at thirteen or fourteen, staying awake with my father's loaded shotgun under my bed for an entire week, ready to confront a pair of "older brothers" with infamous monikers and actual criminal reputations who were roaming the estate in their hi ace van looking for me.

They had said to some kids about me, "... tell him we're going to find him, and then he's dead, his family's dead. We're going to burn his house down. We're going to shoot his dog...".

All this from something that had started from standing up to a toe-rag, and teaching him a lesson.

So, later on, I think I was quite knowledgeable about the decision to take up the logic of pacifism, of this punk music, which seemed to me a fairly good resolution to the conundrum of violence, which is that it escalates.

Later on,
the arrival of children made the choice seem not so clear cut. Because you're not going to turn the other cheek then, are you.

Also, one of my boyhood friends who was a born fighter, brave to an incredible extent, and who in adulthood naturally decided to become a soldier to fight to defend our values and way of life, strongly influenced me and my ideas.

So I consider that I may understand the choice to a fair extent. I have some insight into the dichotomy.

And actually there is more to the story of that "older brother" escalation that I described above - in that you could trace the ultimate beginning of that inevitable escalation to a time well before that, basically to when one day I decided to stand up and fight back.

Yes, that was the beginning. It was a decision that I think was the only one I could have taken, and survived in the world.

But from that moment, its logic inexorably brought me to that week where I lay with the 12 bore under the bed, waiting for the car headlights outside in the night, and I would have got up, at thirteen or fourteen years old, and done what I needed to do to protect my parents, siblings, house and indeed our pet dog.

There was no other choice.

So that is what you are dealing with.

I don't think that there's a single poster on the dead site that you could honestly call sane
 

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Ask him again Golah! (he hasn't replied) -

Post in thread 'Almost 200,000 immigrants came here & stayed in just 6 years, says the CSO' https://politics.ie/threads/almost-...ust-6-years-says-the-cso.282329/post-14263449

Hands up here who's read The Nal and thinks that shitlib dipshit is a right-winger 🙄
A few posts later...

Speaking of dipshits, Clanrickard -

Post in thread 'Almost 200,000 immigrants came here & stayed in just 6 years, says the CSO' https://politics.ie/threads/almost-...ust-6-years-says-the-cso.282329/post-14263651

Who the f*ck is mixing up ethnicity and citizenship?? What goes through the minds of these 60 IQ morons and their brain farts
 

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Brexit may very well lead to a strengthening of the UK's presence in Scotland, Ulster & possibly even the Republic but this presence is becoming more & more pacifistic & in bed with the Israelis.

I usually wouldn't say this but I would actually remain on the side of the Irish & the EU because they are less in bed with the Israelis & probably also more militaristic.
 

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Owing to your being so shut off from the world you have zero discernment, only empty slogans and double-tongued rhetoric.

Consider a teenager politicised through the records of that label.

And subsequently even taking up with Tolstoi's and Gandhi's philosophy of "turn the other cheek".

The question is, can you live it?

If you had family for example, who came under threat, could you continue to live and uphold this philosophy?

Actually these punk messages held many of the same political messages as you found say in the student union politics or trade union politics.

We know today for a fact that these messages were to a large extent emanating from the old Soviet Union, whose agencies infiltrated many western organisations to give a cachet of credibility and legitimacy to their political messages.

But the key difference with punk was where the Soviets were very careful in their orchestrated western "Peace" campaigns to make the distinction between "unjust wars" and “just wars” (which were those fought against capitalism, zionism, imperialism, and various other class enemies...), the message of punk was that all war was bullshit.

And I think perhaps that underlies the essential difference between me and most of you on these fora. It is the point that the rest of the logic cascades from.

Actually I think most of us who frequent these fora are to a large degree under the effect of the political messages imbibed in youth.

On this forum, certainly, you can detect a lot of the old incoherent pub politics that perpetually casts around for someone else to blame for their discontents, grievances, unhappiness, failures to get on in the world, and congenital incapacity.

While over on p.ie there is a large contingent of whom it is evident that their student union politics form the basis of their world view.

Whereas the message of this punk record label, as I already alluded to, was that there is no "just war".


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0ddOmzQlgY

Also accompanying that message, was the visceral hatred of lies and bullshit.

Of course the Soviet propaganda at the end of the day, under the veneer and vindication of its radical left right-on "revolutionism", consisted in essence of carefully constructed and legitimised lies.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m82Agr4Qg1k

But here's the thing. As a grown up with a family, past a youthful "punk" phase, is pacifism as a lived philosophy realistic?

Now, I would perhaps be willing to live the pacifist philosophy if it was just me alone who had to live and abide by that decision, and accept the consequences, and suffer under its logic.

But what about when you're responsible for others?

There is also the recognition that there is in reality no half-way house. Violence inevitably escalates.

As illustration, I remember at thirteen or fourteen, staying awake with my father's loaded shotgun under my bed for an entire week, ready to confront a pair of "older brothers" with infamous monikers and actual criminal reputations who were roaming the estate in their hi ace van looking for me.

They had said to some kids about me, "... tell him we're going to find him, and then he's dead, his family's dead. We're going to burn his house down. We're going to shoot his dog...".

All this from something that had started from standing up to a toe-rag, and teaching him a lesson.

So, later on, I think I was quite knowledgeable about the decision to take up the logic of pacifism, of this punk music, which seemed to me a fairly good resolution to the conundrum of violence, which is that it escalates.

Later on,
the arrival of children made the choice seem not so clear cut. Because you're not going to turn the other cheek then, are you.

Also, one of my boyhood friends who was a born fighter, brave to an incredible extent, and who in adulthood naturally decided to become a soldier to fight to defend our values and way of life, strongly influenced me and my ideas.

So I consider that I may understand the choice to a fair extent. I have some insight into the dichotomy.

And actually there is more to the story of that "older brother" escalation that I described above - in that you could trace the ultimate beginning of that inevitable escalation to a time well before that, basically to when one day I decided to stand up and fight back.

Yes, that was the beginning. It was a decision that I think was the only one I could have taken, and survived in the world.

But from that moment, its logic inexorably brought me to that week where I lay with the 12 bore under the bed, waiting for the car headlights outside in the night, and I would have got up, at thirteen or fourteen years old, and done what I needed to do to protect my parents, siblings, house and indeed our pet dog.

There was no other choice.

So that is what you are dealing with.


Lot to unpack there.

There are those who would argue that impulses to try and see things from a variety of angles especially those of your opponents, to try and see the best in everyone, to be nuanced, etc are dangerously maladaptive to the point of being existentially self-destructive when dealing with people such as yourself and that therefore the only half way healthy response is to view things from the prism of concepts such as Antiwhitism and advance from those perspectives. Yet St Paul who on several occasions had people like yourself try to have him murdered commanded us in the New Testament-"do not be overcome by evil but overcome evil with good" (Romans 12:21)- than of course people will say that is fine on a person level, but how applicable is it on a Civilizational one?
 

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great post .
wokeness came from the top down .
there was no groundswell however what was seen is you could ATTACH various groups to the cultural Marxism imposed on us from on high ,
INVENT A FLAG AND GIVE THEM A COLOUR AND IT IS NOW THEIRS AND YOU CAN ADD COLORS INCLUDING NOW THE PEODO COLOUR.
these Marxists seemed to be already embedded in our media in particular and suddenly every talk show had to RECTIFY its age old prejudice which it was unaware of to include as many gay and out there gays as possible .
the future was gay the announcers were gay the new families were gay everything was gay then the ads changed ""MR AND MRS RYAN " of lidil; fame lit the country from end to end and the Marxists noticed they had gone too far and there was pushback and they toned it down for a bit .
but RTE would with miriams help give birth to a new gay each day on screen where some young lad was encouraged to come OUT to his family live on air and this joyful experience by the state overshadowed all the natural births in the coombe and rotunda that day by a good mile such was the bullshit attached .
we were all to bask in the coming out of some whaco in dyed hair who would announce elsewhere he was now going to fuck from morning to night anyone who came near .
i saw recently and not on rte that the HSE admitted they were trying to trace the 75 yes SEVENTY FIVE partners a monkey pox infected man had in Ireland in the past week 75!! in a fucking week .
when you look at this it comes from Zionism who wish to weaken us and destroy us .
most of the porn industry is Jewish and porn hub is owned by A RABBI .
the idf drop tons of porn by helicopter on to the gazans to destroy their next generation and when they captured the local tv they would broadcast porn 24/7 as it was the most destructive thing to do that they could think of.
we are all Palestinians now.
Marxism is another word for Zionism.
How could anyone have 75 sex partners in a week. My experience suggests 7 or 8 would be a hell of a week
 

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