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Welcome to the Bio-Hacking Forum!

This thread is born out of my own deep passion for bio-hacking— I’m constantly experimenting, learning, and optimizing my own mind and body. Whether you're into sleep tracking, nootropics, cold plunges, or the latest wearable tech, this thread is the place to share ideas.


To get the ball rolling I’ll start by recommending two of my favourite supplements. Two that I personally take every day and highly recommend are Astaxanthin and NAC (N-Acetyl Cysteine). Astaxanthin is a potent antioxidant that supports skin, eye, and brain health, while NAC helps with detoxification, liver support, and boosting glutathione levels—the body’s master antioxidant. If you’re not already taking these, they’re a great place to start in your bio-hacking stack.



 
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When it comes to fighting the years both men and women want mainly two things, a pill/herb that will calm the bladder and a Viagra that actually works.

Anti oxidants may keep the skin fresh but it's what's going on inside that really matters.
 

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When it comes to fighting the years both men and women want mainly two things, a pill/herb that will calm the bladder and a Viagra that actually works.

Anti oxidants may keep the skin fresh but it's what's going on inside that really matters.
Everyone should be taking Gingko Biloba for blood flow, particularly for brain health, but it also helps blood flow everywhere else. There shouldn’t be a need for Viagra.


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Everyone should be taking Gingko Biloba for blood flow, particularly for brain health, but it also helps blood flow everywhere else. There shouldn’t be a need for Viagra.
If only it were that simple.....
 

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If only it were that simple.....
If you increase Testosterone in conjunction with good blood flow, you’ll have no trouble in that area. Tongkat Ali, Boron (for free testosterone) Arginine and Ashgawandha can help boost testosterone in terms of supplementation. Every man should be lifting weights and exercising at the gym too.

Saunas should be an essential activity for everyone at least 3 times a week.
 

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If you increase Testosterone in conjunction with good blood flow, you’ll have no trouble in that area. Tongkat Ali, Boron (for free testosterone) Arginine and Ashgawandha can help boost testosterone in terms of supplementation. Every man should be lifting weights at the gym too.
If you say so..., now, about the bladder, and memory and that bald patch, the list goes on.
 

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If you say so..., now, about the bladder, and memory and that bald patch, the list goes on.
For the bald patch……a flight to Turkey 😆

My brother in law and my nephew got hair transplants there and they worked out very successfully.

My nephew started going bald at 19 and it was going fast, so he decided he had nothing to lose and decided on a hair transplant. You’d never know he was half bald this time last year.
 

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There are some good healthy trends with young people these days. One of which is the dying binge drinking culture. It goes without saying that some social drinks with friends now and again is one of life’s greatest pleasures, however, regular boozing and consuming more than 50 units of alcohol a week is bad news for your health.

 

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If you increase Testosterone in conjunction with good blood flow, you’ll have no trouble in that area. Tongkat Ali, Boron (for free testosterone) Arginine and Ashgawandha can help boost testosterone in terms of supplementation. Every man should be lifting weights and exercising at the gym too.

Saunas should be an essential activity for everyone at least 3 times a week.
Very interesting. I try to do an hour on my stationary bike unless I am working that day. I will wear regular clothes. An undershirt, shirt and jumper. So I work up a great soaking sweat. I actually may be doing far too much.

I would like more info on the benefits of a good sweat
 

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Very interesting. I try to do an hour on my stationary bike unless I am working that day. I will wear regular clothes. An undershirt, shirt and jumper. So I work up a great soaking sweat. I actually may be doing far too much.

I would like more info on the benefits of a good sweat
This chap from Estonia has lots of good information on his YouTube channel


View: https://youtu.be/eMR0BsyPsMA?feature=shared


For my sweating exercise today, I climbed Croagh Patrick with some friends, then afterwards we went down to a lovely beach in Clew Bay which has a small sauna beside the pier.

If I lived in this part of the country I’d definitely aim to climb Croagh Patrick at least once a month. I love Clew Bay. Fabulous place.
 

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Amazingly enough, if I return to Ireland, climbing it would be high on my list to do. I would invite @scolairebocht to travel with me at my expense that day, and any other that wished to tag along, i likely would hire a 7 seater instead of my normal 5
 

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I climbed it years ago when I was in the crack military as a tanger
 

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A lot of people think creatine is just for gym bros trying to bulk up— however, it’s way more than just a muscle-building supplement.

Creatine actually supports brain health, memory, and mental clarity, and it’s even been shown to help with energy production, cell hydration, and recovery. It’s one of the most well-researched supplements out there, and the benefits go far beyond the weight room. If you’re into optimizing both body and mind, creatine deserves a spot in your stack.

If you are taking creative, make sure that it’s monohydrate.


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So, I like to call this thread - The Alex Jones pills advert thread 🤣

This is Tiger in his natural habitat.. When he isn't pretending to be a well-read genius

Of course, this post won't get published (yeah, yeah, "abuse"), Tiger is a protected species around these parts
 

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Honestly, this is probably bullshit. My guess is that they didn't control for participants who worked out vs didn't, or didn't do this correctly. Working out enhances memory and cognitive function in and of itself, regardless of whether you hit the crio or not. As a former user, I can 100% say it's not something you'd take if you weren't lifting. You'd get bloated and fatter looking from water retention. Even whey powders will do that, none of these things are designed to be taken by lounge lizards.

At the end of the day, there's no substitute for doing the work.
 

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Honestly, this is probably bullshit. My guess is that they didn't control for participants who worked out vs didn't, or didn't do this correctly. Working out enhances memory and cognitive function in and of itself, regardless of whether you hit the crio or not. As a former user, I can 100% say it's not something you'd take if you weren't lifting. You'd get bloated and fatter looking from water retention. Even whey powders will do that, none of these things are designed to be taken by lounge lizards.

At the end of the day, there's no substitute for doing the work.

Oh look, the gruesome twosome decided to join the chat together. How cute. It must be ‘nonce o’ clock’.

Fishy jumps in underpants first and writes - “My guess is that they didn't control for participants who worked out vs didn't”? So you didn’t read the studies then, but you’re confident they’re wrong? Impressive.

Creatine’s cognitive benefits are well-documented, even in people who don’t lift weights. A few highlights:
  • Rae et al. (2003) – Improved memory and intelligence in vegetarians not engaged in resistance training. Double-blind. Placebo-controlled. You know—actual science.
  • McMorris et al. (2007) – Creatine reduced mental fatigue and boosted performance after sleep deprivation. Still no dumbbells in sight.
  • Avgerinos et al. (2018) – Meta-analysis showed clear cognitive improvements, especially in demanding tasks. The data is out there.
This is a biohacking thread, not a subreddit for guys sitting on the couch chain-smoking and watching Pornhub all day like Jambo. The assumption here is that people are already optimizing their health—sleep, diet, exercise, nootropics. Creatine fits right in. According to the studies, it still has cognitive benefits for people who's lifestyles are sub-optimal.

So tossing out blanket statements like “it’s useless unless you’re lifting” just shows you haven’t kept up with the science—or worse, you’re basing your views on bro-science and your own bad bulk cycle.

Creatine works. Not just for your biceps, but for your brain. Time to update the software upstairs.

Creatine is one of the most studied, safest, and cheapest supplements out there—beneficial for cognition, neuroprotection, and mental clarity.

Might want to update your info before calling actual research “bullshit.”


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So, I like to call this thread - The Alex Jones pills advert thread 🤣

This is Tiger in his natural habitat.. When he isn't pretending to be a well-read genius

Of course, this post won't get published (yeah, yeah, "abuse"), Tiger is a protected species around these parts
Nah, I’ll leave your comment right where it is, Jimbob—not out of courtesy, but as a testament to the intellectual poverty of your contributions. You always offer nothing but spam, snark, and sloth, like a drunken court jester lobbing tomatoes from the safety of the cheap seats. You do so from behind a haze of cigarettes and bottom-shelf liquor, with all the cognitive sharpness of a damp sponge.
 
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Oh look, the gruesome twosome decided to join the chat together. How cute. It must be ‘nonce o’ clock’.

Fishy jumps in underpants first and writes - “My guess is that they didn't control for participants who worked out vs didn't”? So you didn’t read the studies then, but you’re confident they’re wrong? Impressive.

Creatine’s cognitive benefits are well-documented, even in people who don’t lift weights. A few highlights:
  • Rae et al. (2003) – Improved memory and intelligence in vegetarians not engaged in resistance training. Double-blind. Placebo-controlled. You know—actual science.
  • McMorris et al. (2007) – Creatine reduced mental fatigue and boosted performance after sleep deprivation. Still no dumbbells in sight.
  • Avgerinos et al. (2018) – Meta-analysis showed clear cognitive improvements, especially in demanding tasks. The data is out there.
This is a biohacking thread, not a subreddit for guys sitting on the couch chain-smoking and watching Pornhub all day like Jambo. The assumption here is that people are already optimizing their health—sleep, diet, exercise, nootropics. Creatine fits right in. According to the studies, it still has cognitive benefits for people who's lifestyles are sub-optimal.

So tossing out blanket statements like “it’s useless unless you’re lifting” just shows you haven’t kept up with the science—or worse, you’re basing your views on bro-science and your own bad bulk cycle.

Creatine works. Not just for your biceps, but for your brain. Time to update the software upstairs.

Creatine is one of the most studied, safest, and cheapest supplements out there—beneficial for cognition, neuroprotection, and mental clarity.

Might want to update your info before calling actual research “bullshit.”


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You realise that the heritability of intelligence is correlated as high as 0.8 in adulthood? 🤔

In other words, there's about the square root of f*ck all you can do to stop being stupid, no matter how many pills you take or books you read
 

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Oh look, the gruesome twosome decided to join the chat together. How cute. It must be ‘nonce o’ clock’.

Fishy jumps in underpants first and writes - “My guess is that they didn't control for participants who worked out vs didn't”? So you didn’t read the studies then, but you’re confident they’re wrong? Impressive.

Creatine’s cognitive benefits are well-documented, even in people who don’t lift weights. A few highlights:
  • Rae et al. (2003) – Improved memory and intelligence in vegetarians not engaged in resistance training. Double-blind. Placebo-controlled. You know—actual science.
  • McMorris et al. (2007) – Creatine reduced mental fatigue and boosted performance after sleep deprivation. Still no dumbbells in sight.
  • Avgerinos et al. (2018) – Meta-analysis showed clear cognitive improvements, especially in demanding tasks. The data is out there.
This is a biohacking thread, not a subreddit for guys sitting on the couch chain-smoking and watching Pornhub all day like Jambo. The assumption here is that people are already optimizing their health—sleep, diet, exercise, nootropics. Creatine fits right in. According to the studies, it still has cognitive benefits for people who's lifestyles are sub-optimal.

So tossing out blanket statements like “it’s useless unless you’re lifting” just shows you haven’t kept up with the science—or worse, you’re basing your views on bro-science and your own bad bulk cycle.

Creatine works. Not just for your biceps, but for your brain. Time to update the software upstairs.

Creatine is one of the most studied, safest, and cheapest supplements out there—beneficial for cognition, neuroprotection, and mental clarity.

Might want to update your info before calling actual research “bullshit.”


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lol ok Tiger. Did you miss the part where I said I used to use it?

I don't think you have any actual experience with Crio/supplements. I was using it long before you even heard of it. It is a good supplement, but again, if you'd actually every had experience with it, you'd know there are certain side effects associated with its use. A big one is water retention. You do have to work out on it.

Two of those paper you have linked are obsolete, being over ten years old. You'd know that if you'd ever attended university, or had written a paper. They're both not designed well at the methodological level. The first doesn't really explicate its sampling frame/confound screening, and would be considered inadequate by today's standards.
 
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lol ok Tiger. Did you miss the part where I said I used to use it?

I don't think you have any actual experience with Crio/supplements. I was using it long before you even heard of it. It is a good supplement, but again, if you'd actually every had experience with it, you'd know there are certain side effects associated with its use. A big one is water retention. You do have to work out on it.

Two of those paper you have linked are obsolete, being over ten years old. You'd know that if you'd ever attended university, or had written a paper. They're both not designed well at the methodological level. The first doesn't really explicate its sampling frame/confound screening, and would be considered inadequate by today's standards.
Ok, let’s unpack your argument—or what’s left of it.

First, “I used to use creatine” is not a credential. Personal anecdote is not a substitute for controlled, peer-reviewed science. You might feel like a veteran, but you’re peddling the same gym-floor myths that have already been disproven in the literature—some of which you clearly didn’t bother to read. I’ve used creative for 15 years as part of my weightlifting program, that experience doesn’t qualify me to have magical knowledge about it’s properties in relation to cognitive health.


Second, yes, the Rae et al. study is over a decade old. So are most foundational works in any field. By your logic, we should toss Newton, Galileo and every classic clinical trial that pre-dates Instagram. But if you’d actually attended university (as you so graciously insinuate), you’d know that older studies are often cited because they are landmark and reproducible, not because they’re obsolete. And unlike your worldview, science doesn’t reset every 12 months.

Third, the idea that you “have to work out on creatine” is simply false. That’s bro-science mythology dressed up as wisdom. As already demonstrated in multiple RCTs, creatine improves cognitive function, reduces mental fatigue, and supports neuroprotection—even in non-athletes. This isn't opinion. It's empirical.

What you’re doing is mistaking your limited, probably sloppy experience for universal truth.

So no, I’m not impressed that you used creatine back when phones flipped open. What matters is the quality of information one has now.
 
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You realise that the heritability of intelligence is correlated as high as 0.8 in adulthood? 🤔

In other words, there's about the square root of f*ck all you can do to stop being stupid, no matter how many pills you take or books you read
More spam. Bualadh bos Seamus.

James, for the craic, walk us through your fitness routine for an average week.
 
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More spam. Bualadh bos Seamus.

James, for the craic, walk us through your fitness routine for an average week.
In what way was what I said spam?

This is what I've been saying about you for a while now, you can't even recognise a (two-way) discussion. You made a post in another thread today saying that myself and Sword were speaking in an alien, unintelligible language

You're simply self-absorbed to the hilt, very much the same as the Gowl or the Soapbox Dunce (roc)
 

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Ok, let’s unpack your argument—or what’s left of it.

First, “I used to use creatine” is not a credential. Personal anecdote is not a substitute for controlled, peer-reviewed science. You might feel like a veteran, but you’re peddling the same gym-floor myths that have already been disproven in the literature—some of which you clearly didn’t bother to read. I’ve used creative for 15 years as part of my weightlifting program, that experience doesn’t qualify me to have magical knowledge about it’s properties in relation to cognitive health.


Second, yes, the Rae et al. study is over a decade old. So are most foundational works in any field. By your logic, we should toss Newton, Galileo and every classic clinical trial that pre-dates Instagram. But if you’d actually attended university (as you so graciously insinuate), you’d know that older studies are often cited because they are landmark and reproducible, not because they’re obsolete. And unlike your worldview, science doesn’t reset every 12 months.

Third, the idea that you “have to work out on creatine” is simply false. That’s bro-science mythology dressed up as wisdom. As already demonstrated in multiple RCTs, creatine improves cognitive function, reduces mental fatigue, and supports neuroprotection—even in non-athletes. This isn't opinion. It's empirical.

What you’re doing is mistaking your limited, probably sloppy experience for universal truth.
So no, I’m not impressed that you used creatine back when phones flipped open. What matters is the quality of information one has now.

And yet, Tiger, if you were to enrol in a science degree at any credible university, you would be chastised for using sources as old as those. Take it up with the Academy. That's how they do things. I didn't venture an opinion on whether this is right or wrong. That's just how it works.

I'll let you in on a secret:

People get better at what are loosely referred to as "Intelligence tests" with successive sittings. This is why I don't agree with James on I.Q being the be-all-and-end-all of intelligence. The first paper you linked details how participants were subjected to multiple tests that were unique, but of the same type.

RPM measures a very limited set of intelligence--spatial reasoning/pattern recognition.

You know what group of people perform really well on those? Autists. And Spergs. These people were not excluded or given a weighting in the experiment.

There's no way to know how both these factors skewed the results. Or if they did.

Feel what I'm laying down here?

Edit: Reproducible doesn't mean what you think it does. All scientific experiments must be reproducible and falsifiable.
 
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And yet, Tiger, if you were to enrol in a science degree at any credible university, you would be chastised for using sources as old as those. Take it up with the Academy. That's how they do things. I didn't venture an opinion on whether this is right or wrong. That's just how it works.

I'll let you in on a secret:

People get better at what are loosely referred to as "Intelligence tests" with successive sittings.
This is why I don't agree with James on I.Q being the be-all-and-end-all of intelligence.
I've said that IQ is a measurement of intelligence, the best we have

Stop lying about me, dumbass

The first paper you linked details how participants were subjected to multiple tests that were unique, but of the same type.

RPM measures a very limited set of intelligence--spatial reasoning/pattern recognition.

You know what group of people perform really well on those? Autists. And Spergs. These people were not excluded or given a weighting in the experiment.

There's no way to know how both these factors skewed the results. Or if they did.

Feel what I'm laying down here?
 

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And yet, Tiger, if you were to enrol in a science degree at any credible university, you would be chastised for using sources as old as those. Take it up with the Academy. That's how they do things. I didn't venture an opinion on whether this is right or wrong. That's just how it works.

I'll let you in on a secret:

People get better at what are loosely referred to as "Intelligence tests" with successive sittings. This is why I don't agree with James on I.Q being the be-all-and-end-all of intelligence. The first paper you linked details how participants were subjected to multiple tests that were unique, but of the same type.

RPM measures a very limited set of intelligence--spatial reasoning/pattern recognition.

You know what group of people perform really well on those? Autists. And Spergs. These people were not excluded or given a weighting in the experiment.

There's no way to know how both these factors skewed the results. Or if they did.

Feel what I'm laying down here?

Edit: Reproducible doesn't mean what you think it does. All scientific experiments must be reproducible and falsifiable.
Fishy, you began this exchange by calling what Professor Andrew Huberman—a tenured neuroscientist at Stanford —was saying about creatine “probably bullshit.”

That was your opening move: dismissive, zero citations, and a puffed-up anecdote about your gym days.

Now, several peer-reviewed studies and a bit of pushback later, you’ve pivoted to a lecture on academic standards, the finer points of Raven’s Matrices, and a sudden reverence for nuance and experimental design. Cute, but wrong.

Let’s set the record straight:
  1. Reproducibility absolutely does mean what I think it does—it refers to the successful repetition of results across independent studies. And guess what? The cognitive benefits of creatine have been replicated across dozens of experiments over two decades—across different populations, using different testing models. That’s not just “one old paper,” that’s a body of literature.
  2. The idea that “old = invalid” is undergraduate-tier thinking. Foundational studies are cited not because of their age but because they hold up under scrutiny. The Rae et al. study (2003) you’re hand-waving away has been cited hundreds of times and corroborated in subsequent trials, like:
    • Avgerinos et al., 2018 – meta-analysis, positive cognitive effects across age groups.
    • McMorris et al., 2007 & 2010 – benefits to working memory and reaction time under stress and sleep deprivation.
    • Allen et al., 2012 – confirmed creatine’s role in enhancing oxygen utilization in the brain.
  3. As for RPM and your foray into the autism spectrum—yes, pattern recognition is one subset of intelligence. No, the presence of outliers doesn’t invalidate the average findings. Studies control for this. If you’ve got a statistical critique, cite it. Otherwise, you’re just scattering red herrings like confetti.
As for the "take it up with the Academy" line? - You don’t get to lean on the authority of institutions after dismissing one of the top neuroscientists in the world as a snake oil peddler. Either science matters, or it doesn’t. Pick a lane.

What you are doing is simply a lot of armchair contrarianism dressed up in half-digested pop science. But underneath the gloss, the reality remains unchanged:

Creatine is one of the most well-researched, safe, and cognitively beneficial supplements available today, with data to back it far beyond your dated locker room anecdotes.

Thanks for the bro-science TED Talk, though.
 
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In what way was what I said spam?

This is what I've been saying about you for a while now, you can't even recognise a (two-way) discussion. You made a post in another thread today saying that myself and Sword were speaking in an alien, unintelligible language

You're simply self-absorbed to the hilt, very much the same as the Gowl or the Soapbox Dunce (roc)
James, you’ve now made four contributions to a thread about biohacking and brain health, and—impressively—not one of them has been on topic.

The one time you tried to engage with the actual discussion, you completely misunderstood it. No one was talking about IQ. The subject was cognitive function, mental performance, and neuroprotective interventions—as in, how to maintain and enhance brain health, especially under stress, sleep deprivation, aging, etc.

But rather than follow the thread, you reflexively launched into the same tired IQ determinism talking point you wheel out like clockwork.

At this point, you’re less a participant and more like a pull-string Woody doll—“yadda yadda IQ” Yank the string again—“You’re a soapbox dunce” Rinse and repeat.

But if you actually understood the literature you’re referencing, you’d know that heritability ≠ immutability. A heritability of 0.8 doesn’t mean intelligence is fixed or that no interventions are possible. It simply means that, within a given population and environment, 80% of the variance in IQ can be attributed to genetic differences. That still leaves room for individual variation, brain health, education, and lifestyle factors to matter—especially when it comes to preserving function into old age.

So yes, once again I've called you out for spamming—because what you’re posting isn’t insightful, relevant, or contributing to the discussion. It’s just one of few well-worn lines you drag into every thread, regardless of the topic.

Maybe next time, read the room—and the thread—before tugging your own 'Woody' string. Stop spamming.
 
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Tiger under protection again I see 🙄
That’s your 5th post and it’s another spam post.

Is the penny dropping yet James? You need to make peace with the reality that you are an online troll.
 
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That’s your 5th post and it’s another spam post.

Is the penny dropping yet James? You need to make peace with the reality that you are an online troll.
Eh, no, it's not, actually

I should be at least allowed to respond to your bullshit and lies about me (your general delusions aside) which I did in my last post but it wasn't published
 

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Fishy, you began this exchange by calling what Professor Andrew Huberman—a tenured neuroscientist at Stanford —was saying about creatine “probably bullshit.”

That was your opening move: dismissive, zero citations, and a puffed-up anecdote about your gym days.

Now, several peer-reviewed studies and a bit of pushback later, you’ve pivoted to a lecture on academic standards, the finer points of Raven’s Matrices, and a sudden reverence for nuance and experimental design. Cute, but wrong.

Let’s set the record straight:
  1. Reproducibility absolutely does mean what I think it does—it refers to the successful repetition of results across independent studies. And guess what? The cognitive benefits of creatine have been replicated across dozens of experiments over two decades—across different populations, using different testing models. That’s not just “one old paper,” that’s a body of literature.
  2. The idea that “old = invalid” is undergraduate-tier thinking. Foundational studies are cited not because of their age but because they hold up under scrutiny. The Rae et al. study (2003) you’re hand-waving away has been cited hundreds of times and corroborated insubsequent trials, like:
    • Avgerinos et al., 2018 – meta-analysis, positive cognitive effects across age groups.
    • McMorris et al., 2007 & 2010 – benefits to working memory and reaction time under stress and sleep deprivation.
    • Allen et al., 2012 – confirmed creatine’s role in enhancing oxygen utilization in the brain.
  3. As for RPM and your foray into the autism spectrum—yes, pattern recognition is one subset of intelligence. No, the presence of outliers doesn’t invalidate the average findings. Studies control for this. If you’ve got a statistical critique, cite it. Otherwise, you’re just scattering red herrings like confetti.
As for the "take it up with the Academy" line? - You don’t get to lean on the authority of institutions after dismissing one of the top neuroscientists in the world as a snake oil peddler. Either science matters, or it doesn’t. Pick a lane.

What you are doing is simply a lot of armchair contrarianism dressed up in half-digested pop science. But underneath the gloss, the reality remains unchanged:

Creatine is one of the most well-researched, safe, and cognitively beneficial supplements available today, with data to back it far beyond your dated locker room anecdotes.

Thanks for the bro-science TED Talk, though.

You know that dude's on Test, right?

I can tell you that from the screencap. Never even watched a video. I don't need to.

Which isn't the worst thing in the world but I at least hope he's honest about it. 100% not natty.
 

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You know that dude's on Test, right?

I can tell you that from the screencap. Never even watched a video. I don't need to.

Which isn't the worst thing in the world but I at least hope he's honest about it. 100% not natty.
Probably.

A lot of people claim it’s the fountain of youth. I don’t need it at the moment, but wouldn’t fully rule it out down the road.
 

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Probably.

A lot of people claim it’s the fountain of youth. I don’t need it at the moment, but wouldn’t fully rule it out down the road.
If I was slightly more vain, and slightly less frugal, I would 100% be on TRT. It's amazing.

It's also amazingly expensive.
 

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If I was slightly more vain, and slightly less frugal, I would 100% be on TRT. It's amazing.

It's also amazingly expensive.
Agreed.

I have a psychological block with hormone replacement because my mother died of breast cancer which was caused by the HRT treatment of her day. Back then it was equine derived. I know it’s bio-identical these days and much safer, however it’s still a niggle that’s hard to shift.
 

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Yeah. I drink well in excess of that and its n'er done me any harm.
Says the guy who ended up in hospital because of his alcohol addiction last year and is incapable of reading more than 2 sentences of writing without needing it to be explained to him like a child.
 

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