How much is the collapse of Catholicism to blame for Southern Ireland's mass immigration severe problems?

[Nyob]

They can be seen ‘chatting’ at the 7:59 mark.

lol

So you literally STILL don't f*cken know how to put a timestamp on a YouTube video, even though I've showed you a brazillion times (and it's completely simple)?

Go read a book, moron

 

[Fishalt]

Your response is a deflection — Ireland isn’t being repopulated with Catholics of any race, it’s being re-engineered by atheists and secularists with populations that dilute, not restore, the Faith. Face the facts.

Let’s deal with reality, not hypotheticals. The Irish state is not importing traditional Catholic missionaries — black, white, or otherwise. The Godless rulers are importing populations purposely with no Catholic heritage, often hostile to it, while the Faith is erased from public life.
This isn’t evangelization — it’s replacement.

Atheistic elites are not accidentally allowing this; they are deliberately orchestrating it. They’ve filled the spiritual vacuum left by apostate clergy not with fidelity, but with a patchwork of relativism, Islam, Pentecostalism, and secular hedonism. If you want to speculate about African SSPX priests, you’re in fantasy land — the real Ireland is being dismantled brick by brick, and not by Catholics.

As an atheist, I’m sure that you are ashamed.

This is insane, which isn't surprising because you wrote it. But what is surprising is that you seem genuinely convinced of the notion that if Ireland was a catholic theocracy, there'd be less immigration from nations with incompatible values. This is incredibly unbelievable to me. Knowing Catholics, the border would be open wider than a church door on Sunday on "Compassionate grounds".

According to census data (2022) 69% of the Irish identify as Catholic. So you might benefit from considering how that number relates to the current state of mass immigration in Ireland, and where the social, political and cultural will to enable that is coming from.

And where would you source these Catholics from? East Timor? The Congo? Italians and Spaniards could live and work in Ireland fairly easily already, they have EU passports. They're choosing not to.

 

[Fishalt]

A big part of the problem we’re seeing today—socially and culturally—can be traced back to how the Catholic Church lost the trust and respect of the people. The abuse scandals didn’t just damage individual lives, they broke the moral authority of an institution that once gave Ireland a sense of unity, identity, and shared values.

Because of that betrayal, many turned away from the Church, and with it, from a strong, united Christian front that could’ve helped guide the country through all these rapid changes. Instead of standing firm on core principles, a lot of the modern Church leadership—especially under the current Pope—seems to have veered into what many would call a kind of ‘woke’ ideology, often more aligned with globalist talking points than with the needs and values of their own people.

What’s worse is that the Church, once a protector of the vulnerable, now seems to leave many—especially the elderly—open to being taken advantage of by people who are only here to exploit the system. You hear the same kinds of stories over and over: scammers spinning lies, taking advantage, and there’s little resistance because the moral and social fabric that once held communities together has been weakened.

If the Church had held its ground, stayed true to its roots, and remained focused on fostering real social cohesion built around shared values and community, I don’t think we’d be watching Irish society unravel in the way it is now. The breakdown of that unity has left us wide open to all sorts of pressures and influences that don’t have the country’s best interests at heart.

I partially agree with this. The reason the Catholic Church is losing ground is that it has diluted itself by evolving in the wrong way. Conversely, Orthodox Christianity, which hasn't, is seeing a resurgence and a general uptick in numbers especially in the states. Catholicism tried to court all sides and comers and is now seen as wishy-washy. It went down the path of woke.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

The SSPX church was happy to condemn Irish republicans to the eternal fires of hell in the 1860s.

Tiger reckons many of them are in the eternal fires this minute...




....only the Protestant ones of course

 

[Tiger]

This is insane, which isn't surprising because you wrote it. But what is surprising is that you seem genuinely convinced of the notion that if Ireland was a catholic theocracy, there'd be less immigration from nations with incompatible values. This is incredibly unbelievable to me. Knowing Catholics, the border would be open wider than a church door on Sunday on "Compassionate grounds".

According to census data (2022) 69% of the Irish identify as Catholic. So you might benefit from considering how that number relates to the current state of mass immigration in Ireland, and where the social, political and cultural will to enable that is coming from.

And where would you source these Catholics from? East Timor? The Congo? Italians and Spaniards could live and work in Ireland fairly easily already, they have EU passports. They're choosing not to.

Only someone who’s never set foot in Ireland could seriously quote the 69% census figure as proof of a Catholic nation. Anyone who actually lives here knows it’s a post-Catholic country run by secular technocrats and NGO ideologues.

This idea that real, practicing Catholics are the ones opening the borders is pure fantasy. It’s your Godless values — preached endlessly by the media, enforced by the courts, and rubber -stamped across the entire political spectrum with the diversity-at-any-cost brigade — that are flooding Ireland with half the population of the 3rd world.

And once again, we get an Aussie parachuting into a native discussion with the usual mix of bluster and cluelessness. Loud, wrong, and foreign — the unholy trinity of bad takes.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

No Myles, they’re not Catholics, they’re heretics.

So let me get this straight. Not only are all other Christians heretics (as per the Walsingham thread), along with the adherents of every other religion in the World (not forgetting atheists and agnostics of course), but the vast majority of Catholics today are as well?

So in calculation of the presumably very small number of "true" Catholics, what percentage of the World population are you non-heretics?

 

[Fishalt]

Only someone who’s never set foot in Ireland could seriously quote the 69% census figure as proof of a Catholic nation. Anyone who actually lives here knows it’s a post-Catholic country run by secular technocrats and NGO ideologues.

This idea that real, practicing Catholics are the ones opening the borders is pure fantasy. It’s your Godless values — preached endlessly by the media, enforced by the courts, and rubber -stamped across the entire political spectrum with the diversity-at-any-cost brigade — that are flooding Ireland with half the population of the 3rd world.

And once again, we get an Aussie parachuting into a native discussion with the usual mix of bluster and cluelessness. Loud, wrong, and foreign — the unholy trinity of bad takes.

Well that's where you're wrong Tiger. If I was given a king's mandate to reorganize Ireland in any way I saw fit, immigration would be virtually eradicated. Only peoples of Western Europe would be eligible for entry. Every Muslim would be expelled, and Islam would only be permitted to be practiced in private residences. There would be no Mosques.

You're conflating Atheism with....well, something else--it's not one particular thing. Wokeists? People who go along to get along, and take the money at the expense of the health of the nation?

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

This idea that real, practicing Catholics are the ones opening the borders is pure fantasy.

But they tell you themselves they're all for it! Compassion, mercy, live by Jesus' example etc.

Every Priest and Bishop in the Country has called for us to take in refugees from all over the World. I haven't heard a single instance of their flock telling them they disagree.

You can't resort to the line that they're not "true" Catholics when your above sentence clearly contradicts it.

 

[Nyob]

Only someone who’s never set foot in Ireland could seriously quote the 69% census figure as proof of a Catholic nation.

The fact remains, you have a much larger pool to draw from for the "10 most prominent Godless Godful Irish men or women who are leading the charge to fight against the current invasion" than the dreaded Godless.. And you couldn't name a single one

 

[Tiger]

The fact remains, you have a much larger pool to draw from for the "10 most prominent Godless Godful Irish men or women who are leading the charge to fight against the current invasion" than the dreaded Godless.. And you couldn't name a single one

James your question — pretending to demand a list of ‘prominent God-fearing Irish’ resisting the invasion — is nothing more than a childish rhetorical smokescreen to avoid answering the actual question which I posed and has gone unanswered - where are the Godless voices opposing this replacement of the Irish people? You haven’t named a single one — because there aren’t any.

Now to your misguided claim that there’s a ‘larger pool’ of Catholics to draw from. In what Ireland? Certainly not the one we’re living in. Catholicism in Ireland has been reduced to a cultural echo — tolerated only so long as it’s silent, sterilized, and compliant with the reigning secular dogma. It has no presence in education (unless you’re pushing rainbow flags), no influence in the political class, no platform in the media, and no protection in the workplace, where any sincere Catholic teacher who dares to utter basic Christian morality faces cancellation, discipline, or unemployment. There is almost 400 people in the company that I work for and 2 are practicing Catholics

Ireland is not a Catholic country. It is a Masonic republic ruled by secular technocrats, funded by EU globalists, and spiritually governed by the UN Declaration of Human Rights. The corpse of Catholic Ireland was paraded through the streets in 2015 when 62% of voters endorsed same-sex ‘marriage’ and buried again in 2018 when 66% voted to legalize the slaughter of the unborn. These weren’t votes — they were liturgical acts of rebellion and they were celebrated not with solemn reflection, but with street parties. Dancing on graves used to be a metaphor — now it’s a public event. If the abortion plebiscite was run again today seven years later what would the number be in favour of killing Irish babies - 85%? Probably.

So no — there is no ‘larger pool’ of orthodox Catholics in Ireland. What exists is a faithful remnant: small, but unyielding. About 10,000 of them still march each year through O’Connell Street — not for attention, not for political gain, but simply to resist the legalized murder of Irish children. They do so while being smeared by the press, ignored by the political class, and spat at by the very society they’re trying to save. I’m proud to walk with them every year.

Meanwhile, your Godless cohort holds the entire apparatus of power: the Dáil, the universities, the media towers, the DEIS schools, the ‘human rights’ commissions, the NGO cartels. And yet, despite all that, you have the gall to demand a list of powerless Catholics while your own kind write the laws that displace us and cheer the rising statistics of our replacement.

 

[Nyob]

James

That's my name, don't wear it out

your question — pretending to demand a list of ‘prominent God-fearing Irish’ resisting the invasion — is nothing more than a childish rhetorical smokescreen

to avoid answering the actual question which I posed and has gone unanswered - where are the Godless voices opposing this replacement of the Irish people? You haven’t named a single one — because there aren’t any.

And it's quite logical to ask you where are the Godful, you haven’t named a single one — because there aren’t any

Now to your misguided claim that there’s a ‘larger pool’ of Catholics to draw from. In what Ireland?

R u claiming that there are more "Godless" than Catholics in Ireland? Where's your evidence for that?

Certainly not the one we’re living in. Catholicism in Ireland has been reduced to a cultural echo — tolerated only so long as it’s silent, sterilized, and compliant with the reigning secular dogma. It has no presence in education (unless you’re pushing rainbow flags), no influence in the political class, no platform in the media, and no protection in the workplace, where any sincere Catholic teacher who dares to utter basic Christian morality faces cancellation, discipline, or unemployment. There is almost 400 people in the company that I work for and 2 are practicing Catholics

Ireland is not a Catholic country. It is a Masonic republic ruled by secular technocrats, funded by EU globalists, and spiritually governed by the UN Declaration of Human Rights. The corpse of Catholic Ireland was paraded through the streets in 2015 when 62% of voters endorsed same-sex ‘marriage’ and buried again in 2018 when 66% voted to legalize the slaughter of the unborn. These weren’t votes — they were liturgical acts of rebellion and they were celebrated not with solemn reflection, but with street parties. Dancing on graves used to be a metaphor — now it’s a public event. If the abortion plebiscite was run again today seven years later what would the number be in favour of killing Irish babies - 85%? Probably.

So no — there is no ‘larger pool’ of orthodox Catholics in Ireland. What exists is a faithful remnant: small, but unyielding. About 10,000 of them still march each year through O’Connell Street — not for attention, not for political gain, but simply to resist the legalized murder of Irish children. They do so while being smeared by the press, ignored by the political class, and spat at by the very society they’re trying to save. I’m proud to walk with them every year.

Meanwhile, your Godless cohort holds the entire apparatus of power: the Dáil, the universities, the media towers, the DEIS schools, the ‘human rights’ commissions, the NGO cartels. And yet, despite all that, you have the gall to demand a list of powerless Catholics while your own kind write the laws that displace us and cheer the rising statistics of our replacement.

You really are a whiny ass titty baby. I mean, the victimology..

I honestly think that you should see a shrink

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Tiger is getting mauled (forgive the pun) on this thread.

When a guy won't answer straight forward questions you know he's on the ropes.

 

[Declan]

A big part of the problem we’re seeing today—socially and culturally—can be traced back to how the Catholic Church lost the trust and respect of the people. The abuse scandals didn’t just damage individual lives, they broke the moral authority of an institution that once gave Ireland a sense of unity, identity, and shared values.

Because of that betrayal, many turned away from the Church, and with it, from a strong, united Christian front that could’ve helped guide the country through all these rapid changes. Instead of standing firm on core principles, a lot of the modern Church leadership—especially under the current Pope—seems to have veered into what many would call a kind of ‘woke’ ideology, often more aligned with globalist talking points than with the needs and values of their own people.

What’s worse is that the Church, once a protector of the vulnerable, now seems to leave many—especially the elderly—open to being taken advantage of by people who are only here to exploit the system. You hear the same kinds of stories over and over: scammers spinning lies, taking advantage, and there’s little resistance because the moral and social fabric that once held communities together has been weakened.

If the Church had held its ground, stayed true to its roots, and remained focused on fostering real social cohesion built around shared values and community, I don’t think we’d be watching Irish society unravel in the way it is now. The breakdown of that unity has left us wide open to all sorts of pressures and influences that don’t have the country’s best interests at heart.

Exactly, compounded by their pushing of covid bullshit

 

[Declan]

Let’s have a game of - ‘let’s call a spade a spade’

In terms of Godless Ireland and the influence of public figures on mass immigration. What have these people all got in common:

1. Helen McEntee
2. Roderic O'Gorman
3. Leo Varadkar
4. Simon Harris
5. Jim O'Callaghan
6. Paschal Donohoe
7. Barry Andrews
8. Lucinda Creighton
9. Fintan O'Toole
10. Michael Nugent
11. Jane Donnelly
12. Patsy McGarry

Hint…it begins with ‘A’.

Arseholes

 

[SwordOfStZip]

And it's quite logical to ask you where are the Godful, you haven’t named a single one — because there aren’t any

By the "Godful" who do you mean here? Members of the Clergy only, Faithful Catholics, Christians generally or Theists generally?

Justin Barrett and James Reynolds would be examples of Faithful Catholics doing so. Matt Treacy and Ben Scallen would be others (there are other people in Gript who I would not name in this regards because I believe they are opportunists using this issue for other agendas).

 

[SwordOfStZip]

But they tell you themselves they're all for it! Compassion, mercy, live by Jesus' example etc.

Every Priest and Bishop in the Country has called for us to take in refugees from all over the World. I haven't heard a single instance of their flock telling them they disagree.

You can't resort to the line that they're not "true" Catholics when your above sentence clearly contradicts it.

I doubt every Priest has.

Anyway If you had Jambo or people with Jambo's outlook on these issues forming the Ruling Elites I have no doubt that the Bishops would be saying that mass immigration was directly going against God's Will to split humanity into Nations after the Great Flood for which He terribly punished the people at Babel for disobeying, that we know this Judgement holds for New Testament times because in Acts Chapter 6 the Apostles appointed a separate Deacon to deal with the Hellenes as opposed to the indigenous Palestinian Christians and that anyway the Fourth Commandment obviously strongly implies at the least ethno-Nationalism.

What the Bishops fear most is being "marginal".

 

[Tiger]

By the "Godful" who do you mean here? Members of the Clergy only, Faithful Catholics, Christians generally or Theists generally?

Justin Barrett and James Reynolds would be examples of Faithful Catholics doing so. Matt Treacy and Ben Scallen would be others (there are other people in Gript who I would not name in this regards because I believe they are opportunists using this issue for other agendas).

Fair points, and credit where it’s due — yes, Justin Barrett and James Reynolds have taken the hits for standing on Catholic principles in a hostile age. And I’d agree with your caution that not everyone making noise in this space is sincere — many are opportunists riding the wave of popular anger, with no love for the Faith or the Irish soul they pretend to defend.

The fight against the EU dictatorship has been going on for decades, with many warning of what's happening now with great precision.

You could add to the list:

• Declan Ganley, who, led the last great popular stand against the EU in the Lisbon Treaty campaign — warning us that this (loss of sovereignty, open borders dictated from Brussels) was precisely where it was headed. I'd be interested to go back and see how many of his warnings have already materialised.
• Dana Rosemary Scallon, one of the few public Irish figures to proudly carry her Catholicism into the public square. She fought against EU overreach and the unborn, and defended Irish sovereignty when few others would. The media was weaponised against her for her presidential campaign.
• Gearóid Ó Colmáin, a rare voice in journalism with the intellectual firepower and spiritual backbone to call out globalism, population replacement, and the secular technocracy driving it — all through a lens that echoes the best of Catholic social teaching.
• John Waters, who has paid dearly for defending faith, family, and tradition — his career was practically vaporized by the secular orthodoxy he refused to kneel to. He remains one of the few Irish writers who speaks in Christian terms about the deeper metaphysical and moral collapse of this country.
• Niamh Uí Bhriain of the Life Institute has been a consistent Catholic voice in defence of the unborn and the collapse of sovereignty in Ireland and has stood against the intimidation tactics thrown at pro-lifers year after year and has spoken out against the EU's overreach in Ireland many times in the national media. At last years March for Life , Niamh warned against erosion of our faith due to the mass immigration as another battle in the war against the unborn. I know Niamh personally.
• Conor McGregor - obviously this man is no saint, far from it, however he has many times spoke about his faith and says it’s what drives him to fight for his country. In a 2024 interview he stated: “I am a Catholic and very holy man. My mother instilled it in me from a very young age”. He often expresses his faith on social media, particularly when addressing issues related to the fight for Irish causes.
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[Tiger]

That's my name, don't wear it out

And it's quite logical to ask you where are the Godful, you haven’t named a single one — because there aren’t any


R u claiming that there are more "Godless" than Catholics in Ireland? Where's your evidence for that?



You really are a whiny ass titty baby. I mean, the victimology..

I honestly think that you should see a shrink

Great, another late night vacuous post with no substance from our resident spam master. *glug glug•

If spam posting was an Olympic sport you’d give Michael Phelps a run for his money.

Bualadh bos James.

Go read a book.

 

[Tiger]

Well that's where you're wrong Tiger. If I was given a king's mandate to reorganize Ireland in any way I saw fit, immigration would be virtually eradicated. Only peoples of Western Europe would be eligible for entry. Every Muslim would be expelled, and Islam would only be permitted to be practiced in private residences. There would be no Mosques.

You're conflating Atheism with....well, something else--it's not one particular thing. Wokeists? People who go along to get along, and take the money at the expense of the health of the nation?

Nobody questioned your hypothetical policy as king of Ireland.

The original point of the OP wasn’t about the private opinions of the online posters of Sarsfields — it was about Irish society at large, and the undeniable fact that it’s now governed entirely by Godless secularists who are opening the gates and whether Ireland now being in a post-Catholic era was what helped them enable it.

You’re deflecting from the actual argument: that the collapse of Catholic Ireland — the moral order that once held the line on faith, family, nation, and truth — directly correlates with the rise of the current liberal-globalist regime. That’s not a theory; it’s observable history.
Look at the timeline:

• 1970s–1980s: Cultural secularization begins, traditional Catholic norms publicly challenged.
• 1990s–2000s: Church scandals weaponized to discredit all Catholic authority.
• 2015: “Gay Marriage” legalized by referendum.
• 2018: Abortion legalized and celebrated in the streets.
• 2020s: Mass immigration explodes under the watch of parties fully aligned with atheistic, globalist policies — with no serious resistance from any institutional Church (because the institutional Church is now just another NGO).

So don’t misrepresent the argument. It’s not about your personal atheism — it’s about the actual ruling class, the ones in power in Ireland today. They’re not Catholics. They’re not Christians. They’re secular-globalists with no metaphysical allegiance to anything except capital, convenience, and control.

And yes — the replacement of Catholicism with their hollow creed of relativism, “tolerance,” and technocratic manipulation is exactly what made Ireland ripe for replacement.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

There is no doubt about it. Conor McGregor loves this country his interview with Tucker Carlson will break the Internet!

McGregor's off his head in that clip

 

[Tiger]

Tiger is getting mauled (forgive the pun) on this thread.

When a guy won't answer straight forward questions you know he's on the ropes.

No Myles, literally the opposite is happening, however you are too dim to see it. I don’t think you understand what the OP is even asking.

What’s actually happening here is that I’ve been asking the straight-forward questions — like who are the Godless leaders in Ireland opposing mass immigration and the Great Replacement? Crickets. Total silence. And the reason is obvious: there are none. The only people who’ve ever stood up to the EU leviathan — from the Lisbon Treaty fights to the abortion referenda — have been Catholic nationalists. Dana. Declan Ganley. Andy Heasman. Pro-life processions with Rosaries, not rainbow flags.

You and your mates still don’t grasp what the OP was actually saying: it wasn’t about what random atheists online might do if they ruled Ireland — it was about who currently holds the reins of Irish political, media, and cultural power. And the answer is clear: they are secular, atheistic, and aggressively anti-Catholic. They flood the country with foreign ideologies and imported populations while persecuting any vestige of traditional Irish Catholic life.

And let’s not forget: Irish nationalism itself was inseparable from the Catholic faith for most of our history. The moral spine of resistance to British domination was shaped in churches and convents, not coffee shops and NGO offices. Think Daniel O’Connell, Padraig Pearse, Thomas Mulcahy, Fr. Michael O'Flanagan. Even the Easter Rising was steeped in Catholic symbolism and conviction. Strip that faith away — and what’s left? The empty shell of a nation with no anchor, no soul, and no resistance.

I’m not dodging anything, the only people dodging naming names are those on your side — the Godless, who can’t point to a single one of their own lifting a finger to stop this national betrayal.

 

[SwordOfStZip]

And let’s not forget: Irish nationalism itself was inseparable from the Catholic faith for most of our history. The moral spine of resistance to British domination was shaped in churches and convents, not coffee shops and NGO offices. Think Daniel O’Connell, Padraig Pearse, Thomas Mulcahy, Fr. Michael O'Flanagan. Even the Easter Rising was steeped in Catholic symbolism

Daniel O'Connell was a British imperialist- and something of a hate figure for Irish Republicans.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

You've a couple of decent points there to be fair. However I'm going to let others focus on them as I'm not overly interested in them.

The others should indeed not dodge your names question. That is unfair and it should be addressed.

However you did in fact dodge my last two questions if you're being honest.

Here they are:

So let me get this straight. Not only are all other Christians heretics (as per the Walsingham thread), along with the adherents of every other religion in the World (not forgetting atheists and agnostics of course), but the vast majority of Catholics today are as well?

So in calculation of the presumably very small number of "true" Catholics, what percentage of the World population are you non-heretics?

This idea that real, practicing Catholics are the ones opening the borders is pure fantasy.

But they tell you themselves they're all for it! Compassion, mercy, live by Jesus' example etc.

Every Priest and Bishop in the Country has called for us to take in refugees from all over the World. I haven't heard a single instance of their flock telling them they disagree.

You can't resort to the line that they're not "true" Catholics when your above sentence clearly contradicts it.

 

[SeekTheFairLand]

Thomas Sheridan and Christian Morris describes themselves as pagan and are as articulate thought leaders as I have seen on the Dissident side of things.

Your appeal that it Catholics doing the heavy lifting is inaccurate. All you can do is name lay-people. The entire structure of the Church are at best silent on the issue of mass immigration, it's leader echelon are active collaborators.

Where are the individual priests and monks and nuns who are leading protests against IPAS centres? I haven't see one.

 

[SeekTheFairLand]

No Myles, literally the opposite is happening, however you are too dim to see it. I don’t think you understand what the OP is even asking.

What’s actually happening here is that I’ve been asking the straight-forward questions — like who are the Godless leaders in Ireland opposing mass immigration and the Great Replacement? Crickets. Total silence. And the reason is obvious: there are none. The only people who’ve ever stood up to the EU leviathan — from the Lisbon Treaty fights to the abortion referenda — have been Catholic nationalists. Dana. Declan Ganley. Andy Heasman. Pro-life processions with Rosaries, not rainbow flags.

You and your mates still don’t grasp what the OP was actually saying: it wasn’t about what random atheists online might do if they ruled Ireland — it was about who currently holds the reins of Irish political, media, and cultural power. And the answer is clear: they are secular, atheistic, and aggressively anti-Catholic. They flood the country with foreign ideologies and imported populations while persecuting any vestige of traditional Irish Catholic life.

And let’s not forget: Irish nationalism itself was inseparable from the Catholic faith for most of our history. The moral spine of resistance to British domination was shaped in churches and convents, not coffee shops and NGO offices. Think Daniel O’Connell, Padraig Pearse, Thomas Mulcahy, Fr. Michael O'Flanagan. Even the Easter Rising was steeped in Catholic symbolism and conviction. Strip that faith away — and what’s left? The empty shell of a nation with no anchor, no soul, and no resistance.

I’m not dodging anything, the only people dodging naming names are those on your side — the Godless, who can’t point to a single one of their own lifting a finger to stop this national betrayal.

As I recall the Bishops were never enthusiastic supporters of the Repeal Campaign. They supported the Emancipation effort because they were creaming from the penny rent to build churches. And anyway Emancipation was never a threat to the Union but about the better functioning of the Union. Bringing the Catholics inside the system of British administration in Ireland. The Bishops dumped its timid support for Repeal when Peel gave them the Maynooth College grant.

 

[SeekTheFairLand]

and the Church reaction to the Rising in 1916?


The Vatican blundered badly with its first statement, as historian Oliver J. Rafferty S., J of Boston College noted:

"The Secretary of State at the Vatican, Cardinal Pietro Gasparri, sent a telegram on 30 April to the Archbishop of Armagh, Cardinal Michael Logue, asking the Irish hierarchy to cooperate with the authorities in reestablishing law and order and not to inhibit the task of the government in subduing the rebels. … The first telegram was leaked to the … British and Irish newspapers. In some Irish Catholic circles, it generated hostility and resentment."

Seven bishops bowed to the instruction from Rome and rushed to condemn the rising. The Bishop of Ross said it was “senseless, meaningless debauchery of blood.” The Bishop of Ardagh called it a “mad and sinful adventure.” The Bishop of Kerry declared the leaders “evil-minded men.” The Bishop of Kildare stated it was “a mad insurrection.”


and what point was it that the Bishops adopted this globalist rot? Was it with Francis? or at Vatican II.. or back in the glory days of 1910s when it was all Latin, smells, bells and high church orthodoxy?

 

[Tiger]

Thomas Sheridan and Christian Morris describes themselves as pagan and are as articulate thought leaders as I have seen on the Dissident side of things.

Your appeal that it Catholics doing the heavy lifting is inaccurate. All you can do is name lay-people. The entire structure of the Church are at best silent on the issue of mass immigration, it's leader echelon are active collaborators.

Where are the individual priests and monks and nuns who are leading protests against IPAS centres? I haven't see one.

Haha, is that the sound of the bottom of the barrel being scraped?

So the first feeble attempt to name one of the "Godless" in the fight against Ireland’s destruction brings us… Thomas Sheridan? A pagan YouTuber transmitting grainy philosophical dispatches from the dashboard of his car like a 1999 vlogger lost in the algorithm? We’ve gone from Padraig Pearse, who consecrated his blood to Christ and Country, to a self-styled druid whispering into a GoPro about “energy fields.” That’s not a dissident — that’s the ghost of MySpace.

Your invocation of these fringe figures as "thought leaders" reveals the intellectual famine of secular Ireland — a nation so de-Christianized, so hollowed out by smug atheism and cultural amnesia, that it now elevates roadside gurus over saints and patriots.

I am not an apologist for the traitorous episcopal caste of the post-Vatican II counterfeit church. That institution — the Conciliar Church of the New World Order — long ago exchanged its cassocks for UN lanyards and its altars for interfaith kumbaya circles. The true Church of Christ survives not in chancery offices, but in the humble resistance of the faithful remnant: the lay Catholics who, abandoned by their shepherds, continue to fight with Rosaries, not riot gear.

It is these laity — not your New Age internet prophets — who form the last line of defense: praying outside abortion mills, standing firm against the blasphemies of rainbow fascism, and refusing the replacement of their people and faith.

 

[SeekTheFairLand]

Haha, is that the sound of the bottom of the barrel being scraped?

So the first feeble attempt to name one of the "Godless" in the fight against Ireland’s destruction brings us… Thomas Sheridan? A pagan YouTuber transmitting grainy philosophical dispatches from the dashboard of his car like a 1999 conspiracy vlogger lost in the algorithm? We’ve gone from Padraig Pearse, who consecrated his blood to Christ and Country, to a self-styled druid whispering into a GoPro about “energy fields.” That’s not a dissident — that’s the ghost of MySpace.

Your invocation of these fringe figures as "thought leaders" reveals the intellectual famine of secular Ireland — a nation so de-Christianized, so hollowed out by smug atheism and cultural amnesia, that it now elevates roadside gurus over saints and patriots.

I am not an apologist for the traitorous episcopal caste of the post-Vatican II counterfeit church. That institution — the Conciliar Church of the New World Order — long ago exchanged its cassocks for UN lanyards and its altars for interfaith kumbaya circles. The true Church of Christ survives not in chancery offices, but in the humble resistance of the faithful remnant: the lay Catholics who, abandoned by their shepherds, continue to fight with Rosaries, not riot gear.

It is these laity — not your New Age internet prophets — who form the last line of defense: praying outside abortion mills, standing firm against the blasphemies of rainbow fascism, and refusing the replacement of their people and faith.

I offered you pagan though leaders who have spoken on these issues. These are not good for you.
Can you offer some SSPX priest in Ireland who have spoke publicly on our replacement? I'd watch their videos to see what they are saying.
Your pre Vatican II Church was always a drag on the cause of national liberation.


Praying outside abortion mills? I see the leader of Precious Life is not that fussed about stopping the demographic replacement of our people.

 

[SeekTheFairLand]

Haha, is that the sound of the bottom of the barrel being scraped?

So the first feeble attempt to name one of the "Godless" in the fight against Ireland’s destruction brings us… Thomas Sheridan? A pagan YouTuber transmitting grainy philosophical dispatches from the dashboard of his car like a 1999 vlogger lost in the algorithm? We’ve gone from Padraig Pearse, who consecrated his blood to Christ and Country, to a self-styled druid whispering into a GoPro about “energy fields.” That’s not a dissident — that’s the ghost of MySpace.

Your invocation of these fringe figures as "thought leaders" reveals the intellectual famine of secular Ireland — a nation so de-Christianized, so hollowed out by smug atheism and cultural amnesia, that it now elevates roadside gurus over saints and patriots.

I am not an apologist for the traitorous episcopal caste of the post-Vatican II counterfeit church. That institution — the Conciliar Church of the New World Order — long ago exchanged its cassocks for UN lanyards and its altars for interfaith kumbaya circles. The true Church of Christ survives not in chancery offices, but in the humble resistance of the faithful remnant: the lay Catholics who, abandoned by their shepherds, continue to fight with Rosaries, not riot gear.

It is these laity — not your New Age internet prophets — who form the last line of defense: praying outside abortion mills, standing firm against the blasphemies of rainbow fascism, and refusing the replacement of their people and faith.

Your highly regarded Pre Vatican II church regarded Patrick Pearse as much a lunatic as you do Sheridan. As outlined above. No Vatican II to hide behind in 1916.

 

[Lazarus]

On a slightly related note, we should reintroduce pub closures on Good Friday. It was a nice little tradition, and afforded workers some time off before the busy bank holiday weekend.

It would also send spiteful atheist mutants, like this faggot on gaychat, into a tizzy - which is always fun.

 

[SeekTheFairLand]

No Myles, literally the opposite is happening, however you are too dim to see it. I don’t think you understand what the OP is even asking.

What’s actually happening here is that I’ve been asking the straight-forward questions — like who are the Godless leaders in Ireland opposing mass immigration and the Great Replacement? Crickets. Total silence. And the reason is obvious: there are none. The only people who’ve ever stood up to the EU leviathan — from the Lisbon Treaty fights to the abortion referenda — have been Catholic nationalists. Dana. Declan Ganley. Andy Heasman. Pro-life processions with Rosaries, not rainbow flags.

You and your mates still don’t grasp what the OP was actually saying: it wasn’t about what random atheists online might do if they ruled Ireland — it was about who currently holds the reins of Irish political, media, and cultural power. And the answer is clear: they are secular, atheistic, and aggressively anti-Catholic. They flood the country with foreign ideologies and imported populations while persecuting any vestige of traditional Irish Catholic life.

And let’s not forget: Irish nationalism itself was inseparable from the Catholic faith for most of our history. The moral spine of resistance to British domination was shaped in churches and convents, not coffee shops and NGO offices. Think Daniel O’Connell, Padraig Pearse, Thomas Mulcahy, Fr. Michael O'Flanagan. Even the Easter Rising was steeped in Catholic symbolism and conviction. Strip that faith away — and what’s left? The empty shell of a nation with no anchor, no soul, and no resistance.

I’m not dodging anything, the only people dodging naming names are those on your side — the Godless, who can’t point to a single one of their own lifting a finger to stop this national betrayal.

Is this the same Declan Ganley who wants a reformed EU.. to bring in both the Ukraine and Russia? The Ganley who wants a reformed NATO to bring them in too a Northern Hemisphere Military alliance? With the US 'locked in' as the leader of this Northern Hemisphere Military Alliance? LOL That Russia and the Ukraine to change their constitution to bring them into regulatory alignment with the EU. What to make that 'leviathan' even larger? Ganley opposed Lisbon because it didnt allow a 'European demos' to form, not because he was a Nationalist, he is a pro EU superstater with a problem with bureaucracy. Not a nationalist

and Ganley who wants an open borders super state from 'The West of Ireland to the Bering Strait'? [that should stop our demographic replacement and no doubt]

This guy is a 'Nationalist'??

LOL

You keep Ganley and his American led Northern Empire and I'll stick with Sheridan and his whisperings of Ireland's ancient past.

 

[Tiger]

McGregor's off his head in that clip

Could be, or he could be ‘punch drunk’ or brain damaged.

There’s two things interesting in that video, firstly is that he invokes ‘God’ as part of his nationalism, probably because he knows that historically the two have been intertwined and will be used as part of his ‘nationalist character’.

As Swords mentioned earlier, not everyone is to be trusted. Some nationalists are bad actors.

The second thing interesting in that video is that it’s shot in a Masonic hall. So maybe his ‘God’ is not the God of the bible.


View: https://x.com/Nic21121970/status/1913172467415212183

 

[Tiger]

I offered you pagan though leaders who have spoken on these issues. These are not good for you.
Can you offer some SSPX priest in Ireland who have spoke publicly on our replacement? I'd watch their videos to see what they are saying.
Your pre Vatican II Church was always a drag on the cause of national liberation.


Praying outside abortion mills? I see the leader of Precious Life is not that fussed about stopping the demographic replacement of our people.

Naturally your instincts are upside down and you are barking up the wrong tree with the position of the SSPX and their faithful.

If you'd ever stepped foot into a Traditional Latin Mass chapel in Ireland, you'd know: the priests are the boldest men in the country, and the people who attend their Masses are the most based, red-pilled, and spiritually unshakable people on the island. No compromisers. No cowards. Just Irish men and women grounded in the eternal faith of their ancestors and immune to the sedatives of secular liberalism.

Unlike Sheridan, their ministry isn't on YouTube it's in the real world. There are plenty of articles in their publication "The Angelus" about the damage immigration is doing to Europe. One notable resource is a three-part interview with Fr. Grégoire Celier.

It’s also glaring — and frankly telling — that you still haven’t named these supposedly great Godless leaders of the anti-replacement front. You know, the ones with the media platforms, the NGO funding, or the political capital. Where are they? Nowhere. Because they don’t exist. Your silence is a confession more powerful than any admission: the Godless aren’t fighting the replacement — they’re engineering it. And their useful idiots on the dissident margins are too busy mocking the Faith to notice they've been roped into the same machine.

And as for your slander of the pre-Vatican II Church — you’re echoing the very rhetoric the British Empire used to justify its butchery. The fact is, without the Church, there would have been no Irish identity to “liberate.” The Saints and martyrs, not the druids and podcast pagans, sustained the nation.

 

[SeekTheFairLand]

Naturally your instincts are upside down and you are barking up the wrong tree with the position of the SSPX and their faithful.

If you'd ever stepped foot into a Traditional Latin Mass chapel in Ireland, you'd know: the priests are the boldest men in the country, and the people who attend their Masses are the most based, red-pilled, and spiritually unshakable people on the island. No compromisers. No cowards. Just Irish men and women grounded in the eternal faith of their ancestors and immune to the sedatives of secular liberalism.

Unlike Sheridan, their ministry isn't on YouTube it's in the real world. There are plenty of articles in their publication "The Angelus" about the damage immigration is doing to Europe. One notable resource is a three-part interview with Fr. Grégoire Celier.

It’s also glaring — and frankly telling — that you still haven’t named these supposedly great Godless leaders of the anti-replacement front. You know, the ones with the media platforms, the NGO funding, or the political capital. Where are they? Nowhere. Because they don’t exist. Your silence is a confession more powerful than any admission: the Godless aren’t fighting the replacement — they’re engineering it. And their useful idiots on the dissident margins are too busy mocking the Faith to notice they've been roped into the same machine.

And as for your slander of the pre-Vatican II Church — you’re echoing the very rhetoric the British Empire used to justify its butchery. The fact is, without the Church, there would have been no Irish identity to “liberate.” The Saints and martyrs, not the druids and podcast pagans, sustained the nation.

The Catholic Church were loudest advocates for sending Irishmen to 'Save Catholic Belgium' in largest British Empire bloodbath for Ireland in 20th Century. Them along with safe Catholic Redmond. The rhetoric of the Pre-Vatican Church with regard to the betrayal of that British Bloodbath effort by the 1916 men has been outlined for you.. but you choose to ignore that.

Some French priest? Talking about immigration into Europe? what, nobody from Ireland? At least Thomas Sheridan is Irish. Have you any Irish clergy speaking about immigration into this country. Even one?

 

[Tiger]

Is this the same Declan Ganley who wants a reformed EU.. to bring in both the Ukraine and Russia? The Ganley who wants a reformed NATO to bring them in too a Northern Hemisphere Military alliance? With the US 'locked in' as the leader of this Northern Hemisphere Military Alliance? LOL That Russia and the Ukraine to change their constitution to bring them into regulatory alignment with the EU. What to make that 'leviathan' even larger? Ganley opposed Lisbon because it didnt allow a 'European demos' to form, not because he was a Nationalist, he is a pro EU superstater with a problem with bureaucracy. Not a nationalist

and Ganley who wants an open borders super state from 'The West of Ireland to the Bering Strait'? [that should stop our demographic replacement and no doubt]

This guy is a 'Nationalist'??

LOL

You keep Ganley and his American led Northern Empire and I'll stick with Sheridan and his whisperings of Ireland's ancient past.

Ah yes—Ganley Derangement Syndrome, the last refuge of the man who thinks YouTube uploads from the front seat of a 2002 Nissan Micra constitute “thought leadership.” First off, let’s get something straight: your entire retort is a magnificent strawman.

Not once did I suggest Ganley is the torchbearer of integral Catholic nationalism. The point, which you still haven’t grasped, is that even the faintest spark of resistance to EU overreach in the last two decades came from men like Ganley—flawed, liberal, yes—but with enough courage and competence to actually confront the Brussels hydra. That’s more than can be said for your mystical pagan whisperer whose greatest achievement is surviving a Dunnes Stores security shift and managing a GoPro.

This thread isn’t about crowning saints. It’s about the absolute vacuum created by the absence of a strong Catholic Church in Ireland, a void now filled by EU technocrats, freemasonic functionaries, and godless NGOs hell-bent on reengineering the Irish population out of existence. This situation—a soft invasion cheered on by the establishment—could never have occurred in Christendom. For a thousand years, it was Catholic kings and Catholic clergy who defended Europe from the Turk, the Saracen, and every would-be conqueror. They understood that without the Faith, you don’t have a people—you have a marketplace.

So yes, even if Ganley isn’t your ideal nationalist (he isn’t mine either), the point stands: the only semi-serious opposition to the EU in recent memory came from someone raised during the fading embers of Catholic Ireland. And he did more to actually defeat EU legislation (albeit temporarily) than your pagan podcast hero will ever do with his TikTok lectures on Druidic spirituality and ley lines.

In short: if you think Ganley is the problem, and Sheridan is the solution, you’re living proof that Ireland’s not being replaced—it’s being mocked.

 

[Nyob]

By the "Godful" who do you mean here? Members of the Clergy only, Faithful Catholics, Christians generally or Theists generally?

Eh, the opposite of "Godless"?

Justin Barrett and James Reynolds would be examples of Faithful Catholics doing so. Matt Treacy and Ben Scallen would be others (there are other people in Gript who I would not name in this regards because I believe they are opportunists using this issue for other agendas).

Gript is a kosher conservative media outlet whose editor has explicitly disavowed nationalism (for the Irish people but not the Israelis), I believe Reynolds has since called his own brand toxic

Justin Barrett is indeed a nationalist. Funnily enough, I recall telling you that he wasn't a Catholic and you were shocked and I'm almost positive I posted a video of him saying it (which was in an interview with someone else, I can't even remember who), saying basically that he wasn't a Catholic but he believed and followed Christian teachings

 

[Nyob]

Ah yes—Ganley Derangement Syndrome, the last refuge of the man who thinks YouTube uploads from the front seat of a 2002 Nissan Micra constitute “thought leadership.” First off, let’s get something straight: your entire retort is a magnificent strawman.

Not once did I suggest Ganley is the torchbearer of integral Catholic nationalism.

As has been pointed out to you, that's you and a handful of others on this island..

Good luck!

The point, which you still haven’t grasped, is that even the faintest spark of resistance to EU overreach in the last two decades came from men like Ganley—flawed, liberal, yes—but with enough courage and competence to actually confront the Brussels hydra. That’s more than can be said for your mystical pagan whisperer whose greatest achievement is surviving a Dunnes Stores security shift and managing a GoPro.

This thread isn’t about crowning saints. It’s about the absolute vacuum created by the absence of a strong Catholic Church in Ireland, a void now filled by EU technocrats, freemasonic functionaries, and godless NGOs hell-bent on reengineering the Irish population out of existence. This situation—a soft invasion cheered on by the establishment—could never have occurred in Christendom. For a thousand years, it was Catholic kings and Catholic clergy who defended Europe from the Turk, the Saracen, and every would-be conqueror. They understood that without the Faith, you don’t have a people—you have a marketplace.

So yes, even if Ganley isn’t your ideal nationalist (he isn’t mine either), the point stands: the only semi-serious opposition to the EU in recent memory came from someone raised during the fading embers of Catholic Ireland. And he did more to actually defeat EU legislation (albeit temporarily) than your pagan podcast hero will ever do with his TikTok lectures on Druidic spirituality and ley lines.

In short: if you think Ganley is the problem, and Sheridan is the solution, you’re living proof that Ireland’s not being replaced—it’s being mocked.

 

[SeekTheFairLand]

Ah yes—Ganley Derangement Syndrome, the last refuge of the man who thinks YouTube uploads from the front seat of a 2002 Nissan Micra constitute “thought leadership.” First off, let’s get something straight: your entire retort is a magnificent strawman.

Not once did I suggest Ganley is the torchbearer of integral Catholic nationalism. The point, which you still haven’t grasped, is that even the faintest spark of resistance to EU overreach in the last two decades came from men like Ganley—flawed, liberal, yes—but with enough courage and competence to actually confront the Brussels hydra. That’s more than can be said for your mystical pagan whisperer whose greatest achievement is surviving a Dunnes Stores security shift and managing a GoPro.

This thread isn’t about crowning saints. It’s about the absolute vacuum created by the absence of a strong Catholic Church in Ireland, a void now filled by EU technocrats, freemasonic functionaries, and godless NGOs hell-bent on reengineering the Irish population out of existence. This situation—a soft invasion cheered on by the establishment—could never have occurred in Christendom. For a thousand years, it was Catholic kings and Catholic clergy who defended Europe from the Turk, the Saracen, and every would-be conqueror. They understood that without the Faith, you don’t have a people—you have a marketplace.

So yes, even if Ganley isn’t your ideal nationalist (he isn’t mine either), the point stands: the only semi-serious opposition to the EU in recent memory came from someone raised during the fading embers of Catholic Ireland. And he did more to actually defeat EU legislation (albeit temporarily) than your pagan podcast hero will ever do with his TikTok lectures on Druidic spirituality and ley lines.

In short: if you think Ganley is the problem, and Sheridan is the solution, you’re living proof that Ireland’s not being replaced—it’s being mocked.

Thomas Sheridan isn't arguing for a EU super state with open borders from the 'West of Ireland to the Bering Straits;. Ganley is. Such is position of those 'raised in the embers of Catholic Ireland. We are a region of a US Empire. And he's putting it forward in the journals of US the Neo-Cons. Those famous peace-niks who avoid bloodbaths whereever possible lol. Still think I prefer the videos of a west of Ireland pagan from his car.

This threads isn't about crowning saints? You can't offer any public Irish priests who speak out about replacement immigration. How could they? Oppose the universality of a global church?

 

[SeekTheFairLand]

Naturally your instincts are upside down and you are barking up the wrong tree with the position of the SSPX and their faithful.

If you'd ever stepped foot into a Traditional Latin Mass chapel in Ireland, you'd know: the priests are the boldest men in the country, and the people who attend their Masses are the most based, red-pilled, and spiritually unshakable people on the island. No compromisers. No cowards. Just Irish men and women grounded in the eternal faith of their ancestors and immune to the sedatives of secular liberalism.

Unlike Sheridan, their ministry isn't on YouTube it's in the real world. There are plenty of articles in their publication "The Angelus" about the damage immigration is doing to Europe. One notable resource is a three-part interview with Fr. Grégoire Celier.

It’s also glaring — and frankly telling — that you still haven’t named these supposedly great Godless leaders of the anti-replacement front. You know, the ones with the media platforms, the NGO funding, or the political capital. Where are they? Nowhere. Because they don’t exist. Your silence is a confession more powerful than any admission: the Godless aren’t fighting the replacement — they’re engineering it. And their useful idiots on the dissident margins are too busy mocking the Faith to notice they've been roped into the same machine.

And as for your slander of the pre-Vatican II Church — you’re echoing the very rhetoric the British Empire used to justify its butchery. The fact is, without the Church, there would have been no Irish identity to “liberate.” The Saints and martyrs, not the druids and podcast pagans, sustained the nation.

I read those interview you mention with Fr Celier. I see he is quoting Pope Pius XII [presumably a Pope acceptable to you?]

The Pope calling for international legislation to supersede the moral authority of a nation state on the issue of immigration [which in itself sounds very 'globalist' to me] says.

Is the policy concerning immigration as liberal as the natural resources of a country so abundantly blessed by the Creator would allow and as the needs of other countries seem to require?

and

How all this speaks of a providential abundance, of incalculable possibilities accorded by the Creator! How all that would express what might be called the maternal vocation of a people enlarging its heart to make room for all!

and

The natural law itself, no less than devotion to humanity, urges that ways of migration be opened to these people. For the Creator of the universe made all good things primarily for the good of all. Since land everywhere offers the possibility of supporting a large number of people, the sovereignty of the State, although it must be respected, cannot be exaggerated to the point that access to this land is, for inadequate or unjustified reasons, denied to needy and decent people from other nations, provided of course, that the public wealth, considered very carefully, does not forbid this.

Fr Celier then goes on to say that the immigrant must adopt himself to customs of the state and try to attain citizenship.

It would seem that Fr Celier would agree that Alan Shater is doing God's work.

To be honest, these 'true' Catholics seem to be just as open borders as the Post Vatican II boyos.

 

[Nyob]

This is really just a rerun of a previous debate in which Tiger claimed that he humiliated, dismantled me etc. (egged on by a shit-stirrer on a now dead site)

All he's really doing is trying to shoehorn his obsession - Catholicism/atheism (and other heretics) into the subject of nationalism