How much is the collapse of Catholicism to blame for Southern Ireland's mass immigration severe problems?

[SwordOfStZip]

Justin Barrett is indeed a nationalist. Funnily enough, I recall telling you that he wasn't a Catholic and you were shocked and I'm almost positive I posted a video of him saying it (which was in an interview with someone else, I can't even remember who), saying basically that he wasn't a Catholic but he believed and followed Christian teachings

I remember you made a claim that he was probably an atheist and that you posted a video- but in the video he did not say that he was not a Catholic but that he said that at this point in Irish history for various reasons politically organizing around Catholicism would be foolish (something which I agree with). He has justified the annulment of his first marriage on very Ultramontane grounds which is the last thing that someone not a Catholic would do. There are people who are Catholics and Nationalists and than there are people who are (Integral) Catholic Nationalists- though the lines between the two are sometimes not always clear as in the case of Sean South.

 

[Nyob]

I remember you made a claim that he was probably an atheist

If I said that it would have been because i got the impression from what he said that he doesn't believe in the Christian deity and, with the assumption that he doesn't believe in any other deity, that would make him an atheist (as per the actual definition, not yours or Tiger's)

and that you posted a video- but in the video he did not say that he was not a Catholic but that he said that at this point in Irish history for various reasons politically organizing around Catholicism would be foolish (something which I agree with).

Can't say I recall that

Do you remember who he was talking to? I probably still wouldn't be able to find the video but I can't remember

He has justified the annulment of his first marriage on very Ultramontane grounds which is the last thing that someone not a Catholic would do. There are people who are Catholics and Nationalists and than there are people who are (Integral) Catholic Nationalists- though the lines between the two are sometimes not always clear as in the case of Sean South.

 

[SwordOfStZip]

If I said that it would have been because i got the impression from what he said that he doesn't believe in the Christian deity and, with the assumption that he doesn't believe in any other deity, that would make him an atheist (as per the actual definition, not yours or Tiger's)


Can't say I recall that

Do you remember who he was talking to? I probably still wouldn't be able to find the video but I can't remember

He was talking to some Party meeting.

 

[Nyob]

He was talking to some Party meeting.

Okay, well my recollection is that it was a one on one talk but I can't remember who the other person was. Could've even been Woods, who also isn't a Catholic

 

[Tiger]

Thomas Sheridan isn't arguing for a EU super state with open borders from the 'West of Ireland to the Bering Straits;. Ganley is. Such is position of those 'raised in the embers of Catholic Ireland. We are a region of a US Empire. And he's putting it forward in the journals of US the Neo-Cons. Those famous peace-niks who avoid bloodbaths whereever possible lol. Still think I prefer the videos of a west of Ireland pagan from his car.

This threads isn't about crowning saints? You can't offer any public Irish priests who speak out about replacement immigration. How could they? Oppose the universality of a global church?

Thomas Sheridan isn’t doing anything Seek. That’s the thing.

Your response is a predictable retreat into the comfort zone of false binaries and superficial readings. Let’s dissect this with surgical precision.

First, you're conflating two entirely separate claims:

1. That Ganley is not an ideal nationalist (agreed—no one claimed he was).
2. That his opposition to EU centralisation via the Lisbon Treaty was invalidated by his broader geopolitical vision. That’s a non sequitur. Opposing Lisbon at a time when 99% of the Irish political class were prostrating before Brussels took more spine than you’ll ever find in a pagan vlog from the Connemara car park circuit.

Second, you present Sheridan as the intellectual alternative. Let’s be brutally honest: a man whispering into his dashcam about Irish paganism while never once tangibly confronting the ruling class, proposing policy, or galvanising effective dissent is not a “thought leader.” That’s not leadership; that’s spiritualized escapism. Your comparison is like mocking a flawed general who won a battle because your barefoot village poet doesn't like his war plans.

Third, your biggest category error is theological. You misunderstand the nature of the Church's universality. The Catholic Church is not a liberal NGO advocating borderless anarchy; it's a hierarchical, sacramental order that historically sanctified nations, languages, and cultures. The Church evangelised the Irish—but never erased their identity. In fact, it was Catholicism that gave Irish nationalism its martyrs: Pearse, Plunkett, MacSwiney—men who knew that the sacred and the soil were intertwined.

The SSPX and other faithful clergy are not "silent" out of cowardice—they are marginalised, censored, and crushed by both the secular regime and the Modernist apparatus occupying the Church. And yet, despite this, it’s those very lay Catholics and fringe priests who form the only organised moral resistance to abortion, LGBT ideology in schools, and yes—mass immigration. Are you genuinely expecting to see their priests on RTE being interviewed or have a journalist from the Irish Times rock up to do an article on their views?

Meanwhile, the Godless “dissidents” are producing t-shirt merch and podcast sermons to their echo chambers.

Finally, the core thread question wasn’t about ideological purity or theological perfection. It was this: who is resisting the Great Replacement of the Irish people? And the answer—however uncomfortable for some—is still: it is Catholics, or at least people still clinging to the embers of that Faith. You still haven’t named even a single Godless individual with political traction on the issue.
In short:

• Ganley may be flawed, but he acted.
• Sheridan is inert. He has never done anything practical of note.
• The Church may be infiltrated, but her doctrine still terrifies the New Order.
• And you still haven’t answered the original question.

 

[Tiger]

This is really just a rerun of a previous debate in which Tiger claimed that he humiliated, dismantled me etc. (egged on by a shit-stirrer on a now dead site)

All he's really doing is trying to shoehorn his obsession - Catholicism/atheism (and other heretics) into the subject of nationalism

I'm sorry to burst your bubble James, but like the previous incarnation of this debate, this one is going just as spectacularly bad as the first one.

The only reason this "debate" has extended to 84 posts is because, despite your sneering tone and shoulder-shrugging fatigue, neither you nor anyone else has managed to produce a single serious, effective, Godless figure who has done anything concrete to stem mass immigration or protect Ireland’s cultural sovereignty.

After all that chest-puffing, the best offering is still Thomas Sheridan, a man whose CV is a cross between a live-action meme and a housing benefit application form. He literally just sits in a car with a Go-Pro. He's never done anything and never will.

Meanwhile, you accuse me of “shoehorning” Catholicism into nationalism—as if Irish nationalism wasn’t formed in the furnace of the Catholic soul. The Proclamation of 1916 name-dropped God in its opening breath. The men who died in the GPO didn’t do so to be replaced by a "pagan content creator" with a GoFundMe.

You and Seek are not just ignoring history—you’re actively rejecting the spiritual engine that gave Irish identity its moral seriousness in the first place.

And still, after all this, your side has nothing. Just drifting philosophies, performative edginess, and a deep terror of answering the original question.

So after 84 posts you have..........*drumroll*...............Thomas (the bum) Sheridan! Woot!

 

[SeekTheFairLand]

Thomas Sheridan isn’t doing anything Seek. That’s the thing.

Your response is a predictable retreat into the comfort zone of false binaries and superficial readings. Let’s dissect this with surgical precision.

First, you're conflating two entirely separate claims:

1. That Ganley is not an ideal nationalist (agreed—no one claimed he was).
2. That his opposition to EU centralisation via the Lisbon Treaty was invalidated by his broader geopolitical vision. That’s a non sequitur. Opposing Lisbon at a time when 99% of the Irish political class were prostrating before Brussels took more spine than you’ll ever find in a pagan vlog from the Connemara car park circuit.

Second, you present Sheridan as the intellectual alternative. Let’s be brutally honest: a man whispering into his dashcam about Irish paganism while never once tangibly confronting the ruling class, proposing policy, or galvanising effective dissent is not a “thought leader.” That’s not leadership; that’s spiritualized escapism. Your comparison is like mocking a flawed general who won a battle because your barefoot village poet doesn't like his war plans.

Third, your biggest category error is theological. You misunderstand the nature of the Church's universality. The Catholic Church is not a liberal NGO advocating borderless anarchy; it's a hierarchical, sacramental order that historically sanctified nations, languages, and cultures. The Church evangelised the Irish—but never erased their identity. In fact, it was Catholicism that gave Irish nationalism its martyrs: Pearse, Plunkett, MacSwiney—men who knew that the sacred and the soil were intertwined.

The SSPX and other faithful clergy are not "silent" out of cowardice—they are marginalised, censored, and crushed by both the secular regime and the Modernist apparatus occupying the Church. And yet, despite this, it’s those very lay Catholics and fringe priests who form the only organised moral resistance to abortion, LGBT ideology in schools, and yes—mass immigration. Are you genuinely expecting to see their priests on RTE being interviewed or have a journalist from the Irish Times rock up to do an article on their views?

Meanwhile, the Godless “dissidents” are producing t-shirt merch and podcast sermons to their echo chambers.

Finally, the core thread question wasn’t about ideological purity or theological perfection. It was this: who is resisting the Great Replacement of the Irish people? And the answer—however uncomfortable for some—is still: it is Catholics, or at least people still clinging to the embers of that Faith. You still haven’t named even a single Godless individual with political traction on the issue.
In short:

• Ganley may be flawed, but he acted.
• Sheridan is inert. He has never done anything practical of note.
• The Church may be infiltrated, but her doctrine still terrifies the New Order.
• And you still haven’t answered the original question.

Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness did as much on Lisbon as Ganley. No larger a globalist today than Adams. Does he count in your list of Catholic Nationalists?

SSPX are censored and not on RTE? Have they tried doing a web-cast from the front seat of their cars in Sligo? People will have heard of Sheridan, you on other hand, cannot name one of these 'real' Catholics in Ireland. They are organised you claim, where? Do they have a website or a video channel? This thread is not about 'theological perfection' but they wont lower their community outreach efforts below an RTE platform or an Irish Times interview? Yet Sheridan has tens of thousands of subscribers. Perhaps if your real Catholics had a car and a webcam they could reach more people?

Patrick Pearse who is the pinnacle of your Catholic Nationalism, was as much inspired by the sacrifices of Wolfe Tone and Robert Emmett as he was by Jesus Christ. Your top Catholic inspired by Ascendancy Anglicans?

Your non-infiltrated church was writing out the moral framework for globalist mass immigration in the 40s. Long before your Vatican II excuses kick in

and this lovely calendar merch is available on that Angelus Press site you recommended. Nice deal for $4.99. If only people outside their echo-chamber knew about it.

https://angeluspress.org/collections/religious-goods/products/2025-digital-liturgical-calendar-ics

 

[SwordOfStZip]

Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness did as much on Lisbon as Ganley. No larger a globalist today than Adams. Does he count in your list of Catholic Nationalists?

SSPX are censored and not on RTE? Have they tried doing a web-cast from the front seat of their cars in Sligo? People will have heard of Sheridan, you on other hand, cannot name one of these 'real' Catholics in Ireland. They are organised you claim, where? Do they have a website or a video channel? This thread is not about 'theological perfection' but they wont lower their community outreach efforts below an RTE platform or an Irish Times interview? Yet Sheridan has tens of thousands of subscribers. Perhaps if your real Catholics had a car and a webcam they could reach more people?

There is your man in Donegal with beautiful black hair and the cool dog. There is also for all her faults and failings Gemma.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Patrick Pearse who is the pinnacle of your Catholic Nationalism, was as much inspired by the sacrifices of Wolfe Tone and Robert Emmett as he was by Jesus Christ. Your top Catholic inspired by Ascendancy Anglicans?

 

[Tiger]

There is your man in Donegal with beautiful black hair and the cool dog. There is also for all her faults and failings Gemma.

Swords, ignore the riff-raff pretending the Catholics are nowhere to be found.....Even in post-Catholic Ireland with only a small remnant left they are the only people actively opposing the great replacement. Despite the OP being a set-up for the Godless to fly in with their objections and how they’re leading the charge against mass immigration, we can see they have nobody.

We went over all this the last time it was discussed and mentioning people is literally a one way gesture. So far, they've offered the paltry and pathetic - Thomas Sheridan.

Here's a few more (imperfect) but honest Catholics publicly opposing mass immigration...

Malachy Steenson has been publicly hammering the immigration racket for years — not from a keyboard, but in real-world politics and courtrooms. He’s Catholic, unapologetically nationalist, and rooted in the belief that Ireland isn’t just a plot of land — it’s a people with a soul, a culture, and a faith.

Gemma O’Doherty Catholic. Vocal. Relentless. She’s been blacklisted and smeared for saying what everyone else is afraid to: that mass immigration is destroying the Irish nation — and that this collapse is only possible because the moral core of Catholic Ireland has been gutted. Her paper, The Irish Light, prints what RTE wouldn’t dare whisper.

Derek Blighe Took a stand in court, refused to pay a fine to the Irish Refugee Council because of their support for abortion. That’s not a stunt — that’s a Catholic man refusing to cooperate with evil. His faith drives his resistance. He’s no armchair nationalist — he’s out in the street when it counts.

Peadar Tóibín and Aontú - Not my favourite party and I don't vote for them, however imperfect as they are, they are the only ones in the Dáil consistently linking immigration to Ireland’s demographic crisis. And again — Catholic, and not ashamed of it.

So no — the Catholics aren’t missing. They’re just being silenced, banned, censored, dragged through courts, or completely ignored by the Godless media who run cover for the real invaders.

You want to know who’s actually saying something? Look where the heat is. It’s the Catholics getting fined, banned, sued, and shouted down. That’s where truth always lives.

So while Seek and co are out here hyping YouTubers whispering about Atlantis in their car seats, the only people putting their boots on the ground and saying “Enough” are the ones carrying Rosaries — not stupid rain sticks.

 

[Tiger]

We’re at 90 posts so far and we have….

Thomas ‘the car vlogger’ Sheridan as the prime candidate for the Godless.

Absolutely phucking hopeless.

 

[Nyob]

I'm sorry to burst your bubble James, but like the previous incarnation of this debate, this one is going just as spectacularly bad as the first one.

Of course, you haven't changed

The only reason this "debate" has extended to 84 posts is because, despite your sneering tone and shoulder-shrugging fatigue

, neither you nor anyone else has managed to produce a single serious, effective, Godless figure who has done anything concrete to stem mass immigration or protect Ireland’s cultural sovereignty.

After all that chest-puffing, the best offering is still Thomas Sheridan, a man whose CV is a cross between a live-action meme and a housing benefit application form. He literally just sits in a car with a Go-Pro. He's never done anything and never will.

Meanwhile, you accuse me of “shoehorning” Catholicism into nationalism—as if Irish nationalism wasn’t formed in the furnace of the Catholic soul. The Proclamation of 1916 name-dropped God in its opening breath. The men who died in the GPO didn’t do so to be replaced by a "pagan content creator" with a GoFundMe.

You and Seek are not just ignoring history—you’re actively rejecting the spiritual engine that gave Irish identity its moral seriousness in the first place.

And still, after all this, your side has nothing. Just drifting philosophies, performative edginess, and a deep terror of answering the original question.

So after 84 posts you have..........*drumroll*...............Thomas (the bum) Sheridan! Woot!

I haven't said anything about Sheridan but I wouldn't consider him to be a nationalist. If someone thought of him as more nationalistic than one of your priests holding a Refugees Welcome sign then sure, why not

 

[Nyob]

There is your man in Donegal with beautiful black hair and the cool dog. There is also for all her faults and failings Gemma.

Jaze, the Donegal Martyr ((c) Btwixt)?

 

[Nyob]

Swords, ignore the riff-raff pretending the Catholics are nowhere to be found.....Even in post-Catholic Ireland with only a small remnant left they are the only people actively opposing the great replacement. Despite the OP being a set-up for the Godless to fly in with their objections and how they’re leading the charge against mass immigration, we can see they have nobody.

We went over all this the last time it was discussed and mentioning people is literally a one way gesture. So far, they've offered the paltry and pathetic - Thomas Sheridan.

Here's a few more (imperfect) but honest Catholics publicly opposing mass immigration...

Malachy Steenson has been publicly hammering the immigration racket for years — not from a keyboard, but in real-world politics and courtrooms. He’s Catholic, unapologetically nationalist, and rooted in the belief that Ireland isn’t just a plot of land — it’s a people with a soul, a culture, and a faith.

Gemma O’Doherty Catholic. Vocal. Relentless. She’s been blacklisted and smeared for saying what everyone else is afraid to: that mass immigration is destroying the Irish nation — and that this collapse is only possible because the moral core of Catholic Ireland has been gutted. Her paper, The Irish Light, prints what RTE wouldn’t dare whisper.

Derek Blighe Took a stand in court, refused to pay a fine to the Irish Refugee Council because of their support for abortion. That’s not a stunt — that’s a Catholic man refusing to cooperate with evil. His faith drives his resistance. He’s no armchair nationalist — he’s out in the street when it counts.

Peadar Tóibín and Aontú - Not my favourite party and I don't vote for them, however imperfect as they are, they are the only ones in the Dáil consistently linking immigration to Ireland’s demographic crisis. And again — Catholic, and not ashamed of it.

So no — the Catholics aren’t missing. They’re just being silenced, banned, censored, dragged through courts, or completely ignored by the Godless media who run cover for the real invaders.

You want to know who’s actually saying something? Look where the heat is. It’s the Catholics getting fined, banned, sued, and shouted down. That’s where truth always lives.

So while Seek and co are out here hyping YouTubers whispering about Atlantis in their car seats, the only people putting their boots on the ground and saying “Enough” are the ones carrying Rosaries — not stupid rain sticks.

lol

Literally no nationalists in your list

 

[Nyob]

We’re at 90 posts so far and we have….

Thomas ‘the car vlogger’ Sheridan as the prime candidate for the Godless.

Absolutely phucking hopeless.

I have mentioned at least two bona fide nationalists who aren't Catholics, Justin Barrett and Keith Woods

You have pictures of pro-lifers holding black babees in their laps

 

[Tiger]

Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness did as much on Lisbon as Ganley. No larger a globalist today than Adams. Does he count in your list of Catholic Nationalists?

SSPX are censored and not on RTE? Have they tried doing a web-cast from the front seat of their cars in Sligo? People will have heard of Sheridan, you on other hand, cannot name one of these 'real' Catholics in Ireland. They are organised you claim, where? Do they have a website or a video channel? This thread is not about 'theological perfection' but they wont lower their community outreach efforts below an RTE platform or an Irish Times interview? Yet Sheridan has tens of thousands of subscribers. Perhaps if your real Catholics had a car and a webcam they could reach more people?

Patrick Pearse who is the pinnacle of your Catholic Nationalism, was as much inspired by the sacrifices of Wolfe Tone and Robert Emmett as he was by Jesus Christ. Your top Catholic inspired by Ascendancy Anglicans?

Your non-infiltrated church was writing out the moral framework for globalist mass immigration in the 40s. Long before your Vatican II excuses kick in

and this lovely calendar merch is available on that Angelus Press site you recommended. Nice deal for $4.99. If only people outside their echo-chamber knew about it.

https://angeluspress.org/collections/religious-goods/products/2025-digital-liturgical-calendar-ics

Firstly , thanks for being my punching bag, normally that role is played by Jambo, but he’s less fun, because he’s not read a book since he was 12.

Anyhoo…

Seeks Claim: "Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness did as much on Lisbon as Ganley. No larger a globalist today than Adams. Does he count in your list of Catholic Nationalists?"

Reality:
This is a classic bait-and-switch. Adams and McGuinness briefly voiced occasional opposition to EU measures, but their objections were framed within a Marxist revolutionary paradigm, not a Catholic nationalist one. Their worldview was steeped in liberation theology, which is not Catholicism, but a politicised heresy condemned by Pope John Paul II. Declan Ganley, for all his faults and Atlanticist sympathies, launched a direct challenge to Brussels technocracy, financing and organizing an actual, effective resistance to the Lisbon Treaty. Adams and McGuinness merely leveraged EU ambiguity to gain leverage for Sinn Féin’s globalist-lite aspirations. They were never driven by a Catholic worldview, and invoking them as equivalents to Ganley is like comparing a fanzine to a newspaper simply because both use ink. Ultimately, their contribution was significantly less.

Seeks Claim: "SSPX are censored and not on RTE? Have they tried doing a web-cast from the front seat of their cars in Sligo?"

Reality:
This mockery proves the poster’s ignorance of how truth, not popularity, defines Catholicism. The SSPX refuses to whore out the faith through clown-car theatrics or clickbait pantomimes. Their strategy is not digital attention-seeking, but sacramental restoration and slow cultural repair. They’re censored from mainstream media not because they’re ineffective, but because they’re a living indictment of both Vatican II collapse and secularist modernity. Sheridan’s webcam antics are not outreach—they’re confessional solipsism disguised as dissidence. That’s the difference between a priesthood in exile and a pagan on autoplay.


Seeks Claim: "People will have heard of Sheridan, you on the other hand, cannot name one of these 'real' Catholics in Ireland..."

Reality:
False. I've named many: Fr. Patrick McCarthy, Fr. Michael Crowdy, and lay voices like Andy Heasman, Gearóid Ó Colmáin, Dana Rosemary Scallon, Declan Ganley, Malachy Steenson, Peadar Toibin, Gemma O Doherty, and so on. Sheridan is a nobody.


Seeks Claim: "Patrick Pearse... was as much inspired by Wolfe Tone and Emmett as Jesus Christ."

Reality:
This reveals a shallow reading of Pearse. Yes, he referenced Tone and Emmett as symbols of Irish defiance—but his mystical core, as evidenced in “The Spiritual Nation” and his speeches at the grave of O’Donovan Rossa, was deeply Catholic. Pearse saw martyrdom through a Christological lens, not through Tone’s secular deism. His entire pedagogical philosophy was centered around the formation of Catholic souls for national redemption. Quoting Tone does not make one less Catholic—Pearse simply integrated national memory with Christian sacrifice. That’s high Catholic nationalism, not contradiction.


Seeks Claim: "Your non-infiltrated church was writing out the moral framework for globalist mass immigration in the 40s..."

Reality:
This is a historical lie or a deliberate conflation. The 1940s Church spoke about charity to refugees post-WWII—not borderless multiracial utopias. The difference between principled hospitality and modern globohomo-engineered demographic replacement is as wide as the Tiber. The infiltration began in earnest after WWII—particularly in the 1950s and 60s with the rise of the Nouvelle Théologie and eventual victory at Vatican II. Before this, the papal encyclicals like Quas Primas (1925) and Immortale Dei (1885) were focused on Christ the King and national sovereignty, not supranationalism.


Seeks Claim: "That lovely calendar merch... from Angelus Press. If only people outside their echo-chamber knew about it."

Reality:
Here we get the jealous sneer: mocking $4.99 merchandise while sitting on a digital throne built on nothing. Angelus Press harmlessly sells devotional materials to Catholics, many of whom support families, homeschools, parishes, and real charity. That’s not an “echo chamber”—it’s a surviving remnant of Christian civilization. And unlike the self-styled “thought leaders” of the neopagan webcam underground, Angelus Press actually has a track record, a catechism, and a Church behind it.

 

[Nyob]

Firstly , thanks for being my punching bag, normally that role is played by Jambo, but he’s less fun, because he’s not read a book since he was 12.

Anyhoo…

Seeks Claim: "Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness did as much on Lisbon as Ganley. No larger a globalist today than Adams. Does he count in your list of Catholic Nationalists?"

Reality:
This is a classic bait-and-switch. Adams and McGuinness briefly voiced occasional opposition to EU measures, but their objections were framed within a Marxist revolutionary paradigm, not a Catholic nationalist one. Their worldview was steeped in liberation theology, which is not Catholicism, but a politicized heresy condemned by Pope John Paul II. Declan Ganley, for all his faults and Atlanticist sympathies, launched a direct challenge to Brussels technocracy, financing and organizing an actual, effective resistance to the Lisbon Treaty. Adams and McGuinness merely leveraged EU ambiguity to gain leverage for Sinn Féin’s globalist-lite aspirations. They were never driven by a Catholic worldview, and invoking them as equivalents to Ganley is like comparing a fanzine to a newspaper simply because both use ink. Ultimately, their contribution was significantly less.

Seeks Claim: "SSPX are censored and not on RTE? Have they tried doing a web-cast from the front seat of their cars in Sligo?"

Reality:
This mockery proves the poster’s ignorance of how truth, not popularity, defines Catholicism. The SSPX refuses to whore out the faith through clown-car theatrics or clickbait pantomimes. Their strategy is not digital attention-seeking, but sacramental restoration and slow cultural repair. They’re censored from mainstream media not because they’re ineffective, but because they’re a living indictment of both Vatican II collapse and secularist modernity. Sheridan’s webcam antics are not outreach—they’re confessional solipsism disguised as dissidence. That’s the difference between a priesthood in exile and a pagan on autoplay.


Seeks Claim: "People will have heard of Sheridan, you on the other hand, cannot name one of these 'real' Catholics in Ireland..."

Reality:
False. I've named many: Fr. Patrick McCarthy, Fr. Michael Crowdy, and lay voices like Andy Heasman, Gearóid Ó Colmáin, Dana Rosemary Scallon

Despite being humourless yourself, I suppose if anything you're good for a laugh


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ8W9oOgjM4

, Declan Ganley, Malachy Steenson, Peadar Toibin, Gemma O Doherty, and so on. The only reason Sheridan gets more attention is because Godless media and algorithms promote safe, disarmed pagans over true Catholic resistance. Sheridan is signal-boosted precisely because he poses no spiritual threat to the system.


Seeks Claim: "Patrick Pearse... was as much inspired by Wolfe Tone and Emmett as Jesus Christ."

Reality:
This reveals a shallow reading of Pearse. Yes, he referenced Tone and Emmett as symbols of Irish defiance—but his mystical core, as evidenced in “The Spiritual Nation” and his speeches at the grave of O’Donovan Rossa, was deeply Catholic. Pearse saw martyrdom through a Christological lens, not through Tone’s secular deism. His entire pedagogical philosophy was centered around the formation of Catholic souls for national redemption. Quoting Tone does not make one less Catholic—Pearse simply integrated national memory with Christian sacrifice. That’s high Catholic nationalism, not contradiction.


Seeks Claim: "Your non-infiltrated church was writing out the moral framework for globalist mass immigration in the 40s..."

Reality:
This is a historical lie or a deliberate conflation. The 1940s Church spoke about charity to refugees post-WWII—not borderless multiracial utopias. The difference between principled hospitality and modern globohomo-engineered demographic replacement is as wide as the Tiber. The infiltration began in earnest after WWII—particularly in the 1950s and 60s with the rise of the Nouvelle Théologie and eventual victory at Vatican II. Before this, the papal encyclicals like Quas Primas (1925) and Immortale Dei (1885) were focused on Christ the King and national sovereignty, not supranationalism.


Seeks Claim: "That lovely calendar merch... from Angelus Press. If only people outside their echo-chamber knew about it."

Reality:
Here we get the jealous sneer: mocking $4.99 merchandise while sitting on a digital throne built on nothing. Angelus Press harmlessly sells devotional materials to Catholics, many of whom support families, homeschools, parishes, and real charity. That’s not an “echo chamber”—it’s a surviving remnant of Christian civilization. And unlike the self-styled “thought leaders” of the neopagan webcam underground, Angelus Press actually has a track record, a catechism, and a Church behind it.

 

[Tiger]

Despite being humourless yourself, I suppose if anything you're good for a laugh


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ8W9oOgjM4

Oh look it’s Jambo, It must be ‘spam o‘ clock’.

 

[Nyob]

Swords, ignore the riff-raff pretending the Catholics are nowhere to be found.....Even in post-Catholic Ireland with only a small remnant left they are the only people actively opposing the great replacement. Despite the OP being a set-up for the Godless to fly in with their objections and how they’re leading the charge against mass immigration, we can see they have nobody.

We went over all this the last time it was discussed and mentioning people is literally a one way gesture. So far, they've offered the paltry and pathetic - Thomas Sheridan.

Here's a few more (imperfect) but honest Catholics publicly opposing mass immigration...

Malachy Steenson has been publicly hammering the immigration racket for years — not from a keyboard, but in real-world politics and courtrooms. He’s Catholic, unapologetically nationalist, and rooted in the belief that Ireland isn’t just a plot of land — it’s a people with a soul, a culture, and a faith.

Gemma O’Doherty Catholic. Vocal. Relentless. She’s been blacklisted and smeared for saying what everyone else is afraid to: that mass immigration is destroying the Irish nation — and that this collapse is only possible because the moral core of Catholic Ireland has been gutted. Her paper, The Irish Light, prints what RTE wouldn’t dare whisper.

Derek Blighe Took a stand in court, refused to pay a fine to the Irish Refugee Council because of their support for abortion. That’s not a stunt — that’s a Catholic man refusing to cooperate with evil. His faith drives his resistance. He’s no armchair nationalist — he’s out in the street when it counts.

Peadar Tóibín and Aontú - Not my favourite party and I don't vote for them, however imperfect as they are, they are the only ones in the Dáil consistently linking immigration to Ireland’s demographic crisis. And again — Catholic, and not ashamed of it.

So no — the Catholics aren’t missing. They’re just being silenced, banned, censored, dragged through courts, or completely ignored by the Godless media who run cover for the real invaders.

You want to know who’s actually saying something? Look where the heat is. It’s the Catholics getting fined, banned, sued, and shouted down. That’s where truth always lives.

So while Seek and co are out here hyping YouTubers whispering about Atlantis in their car seats, the only people putting their boots on the ground and saying “Enough” are the ones carrying Rosaries — not stupid rain sticks.

To speak of at least two on your list and how ridiculous you are when it comes to nationalism..

Derek Blighe posted a tweet (when he wasn't begging not to be called a racist or far right) in which he said - look at this lovely Irish girl giving me a kiss. Now I don't know exactly what the "Irish girl" was, suffice to say mystery meat, but if you don't know that the nation is comprised of a people of a particular ethnicity, race.. then you ain't no nationalist, bruv

Peadar Tobin has disavowed nationalism in the sane way John McGuirk or Meehole Martin has.. These people are not nationalists

 

[SeekTheFairLand]

Swords, ignore the riff-raff pretending the Catholics are nowhere to be found.....Even in post-Catholic Ireland with only a small remnant left they are the only people actively opposing the great replacement. Despite the OP being a set-up for the Godless to fly in with their objections and how they’re leading the charge against mass immigration, we can see they have nobody.

We went over all this the last time it was discussed and mentioning people is literally a one way gesture. So far, they've offered the paltry and pathetic - Thomas Sheridan.

Here's a few more (imperfect) but honest Catholics publicly opposing mass immigration...

Malachy Steenson has been publicly hammering the immigration racket for years — not from a keyboard, but in real-world politics and courtrooms. He’s Catholic, unapologetically nationalist, and rooted in the belief that Ireland isn’t just a plot of land — it’s a people with a soul, a culture, and a faith.

Gemma O’Doherty Catholic. Vocal. Relentless. She’s been blacklisted and smeared for saying what everyone else is afraid to: that mass immigration is destroying the Irish nation — and that this collapse is only possible because the moral core of Catholic Ireland has been gutted. Her paper, The Irish Light, prints what RTE wouldn’t dare whisper.

Derek Blighe Took a stand in court, refused to pay a fine to the Irish Refugee Council because of their support for abortion. That’s not a stunt — that’s a Catholic man refusing to cooperate with evil. His faith drives his resistance. He’s no armchair nationalist — he’s out in the street when it counts.

Peadar Tóibín and Aontú - Not my favourite party and I don't vote for them, however imperfect as they are, they are the only ones in the Dáil consistently linking immigration to Ireland’s demographic crisis. And again — Catholic, and not ashamed of it.

So no — the Catholics aren’t missing. They’re just being silenced, banned, censored, dragged through courts, or completely ignored by the Godless media who run cover for the real invaders.

You want to know who’s actually saying something? Look where the heat is. It’s the Catholics getting fined, banned, sued, and shouted down. That’s where truth always lives.

So while Seek and co are out here hyping YouTubers whispering about Atlantis in their car seats, the only people putting their boots on the ground and saying “Enough” are the ones carrying Rosaries — not stupid rain sticks.

John Mullins, big Fine Gaeler. LGBT pushing party and here he is getting the Catholic funeral Mass.
He's Catholic and supporting the Regime.

‘You were our greatest inspiration’ – children of businessman and Fine Gael election candidate John Mullins pay touching tribute at funeral mass

The funeral of Co Cork businessman John Mullins has heard he was an “inspiration” to his two children.

www.independent.ie

All the people you mentioned happen to be Catholic. You are choosing to emphasise their Catholicism. This dead FG happens to be Catholic and look at the crap he pushes. Lets emphasise his Catholicism here too.

 

[Tiger]

I have mentioned at least two bona fide nationalists who aren't Catholics, Justin Barrett and Keith Woods

You have pictures of pro-lifers holding black babees in their laps

Classic Jambo. He has no idea what’s the subject being discussed. That’s the problem with not reading books.

You’ve fumbled the ball right out the gate.

Neither Justin Barrett nor Keith Woods qualify as “Godless” by any stretch — so your attempt to parade them as examples of secular resistance to mass immigration collapses before it begins.

Barrett is a known Catholic nationalist, whose political positions are rooted in the social teaching of the Church — like it or not.

As for Woods, he’s publicly rejected atheism and materialism, drawing instead from classical metaphysics and Platonism. That may not be Christianity, but it’s a far cry from the nihilistic “Godless” swamp this thread is examining.

Justin Barrett has historically advocated for a "Catholic Republic," as outlined in his 1998 book The National Way Forward!, where he proposed aligning Ireland's constitution with Catholic doctrine . However, in more recent years, Barrett has distanced himself from explicitly Catholic rhetoric. The National Party now describes itself as a secular party for political traction. While Barrett has not publicly renounced his Catholic faith, his political messaging has shifted towards a broader nationalist platform without overt religious references.

Therefore, labeling Barrett as "godless" would be inaccurate and kind of stupid. His earlier work indicates a strong Catholic influence, and there is no public record of him declaring a departure from the faith.

So unless you’ve got someone who actually fits the definition of Godless — no faith, no metaphysics, just a rationalist wrecking ball — you’re only proving the point: that even when you try, your best examples aren’t Godless at all.

As for the picture you referenced, that was your pal Seek, not me.

In other words: still no names. Just more reshuffling of the deck and hoping no one notices all the jokers.

 

[SeekTheFairLand]

Despite being humourless yourself, I suppose if anything you're good for a laugh


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ8W9oOgjM4

Its Merch mate, aimed at the faithful remnant's pockets.

Pearse's proclamation mentions the rebellions led by Protestant and atheists more often than it mentions God. I think you are downplaying the Role the Prods and Atheists in Pearse's Rising. The Republic 'promises civil and religious liberty'. Not a mention of the Church at all. Indeed the need for 'civil and religious freedom' had already been cited in the 1912 Ulster Solemn League and Covenant. Here Pearse is as one with the Presbyterians in Ulster. He is not supporting the Ne Temere but agreeing with the Ulster Prods. Some top Catholic he was, agreeing with Ulster Prods in the 1916 Proclamation and ignoring the specfic instruction of the Holy Mother Church.

 

[SeekTheFairLand]

Despite being humourless yourself, I suppose if anything you're good for a laugh


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ8W9oOgjM4

Its Merch mate, aimed at the faithful remnant's pockets.

Pearse's proclamation mentions the rebellions led by Protestant and atheists more often than it mentions God. I think you are downplaying the Role the Prods and Atheists in Pearse's Rising. The Republic 'promises civil and religious liberty'. Not a mention of the Church at all. Indeed the need for 'civil and religious freedom' had already been cited in the 1912 Ulster Solemn League and Covenant. Here Pearse is as one with the Presbyterians in Ulster. He is not supporting the Ne Temere but agreeing with the Ulster Prods. Some top Catholic he was, agreeing with Ulster Prods in the 1916 Proclamation and ignoring the specfic instruction of the Holy Mother Church.

 

[SeekTheFairLand]

Peadar Tobin quoted as fine example of a Catholic doing God's work.. is this same Toibin that voted and campaigned for a Yes vote in Same Sex Marriage referendum?

 

[Tiger]

Its Merch mate, aimed at the faithful remnant's pockets.

Pearse's proclamation mentions the rebellions led by Protestant and atheists more often than it mentions God. I think you are downplaying the Role the Prods and Atheists in Pearse's Rising. The Republic 'promises civil and religious liberty'. Not a mention of the Church at all. Indeed the need for 'civil and religious freedom' had already been cited in the 1912 Ulster Solemn League and Covenant. Here Pearse is as one with the Presbyterians in Ulster. He is not supporting the Ne Temere but agreeing with the Ulster Prods. Some top Catholic he was, agreeing with Ulster Prods in the 1916 Proclamation and ignoring the specfic instruction of the Holy Mother Church.

Good grief.

Ah, the tired old canard that Pearse was some closet Enlightenment liberal because the Proclamation didn't read like a papal bull. Let’s be clear: Pearse didn’t need to name the Catholic Church—he embodied it. His vision of Ireland was the fusion of Faith and Nation, not some Masonic fantasy of ‘neutral liberty.’ 'Civil and religious liberty' was a strategic line—an olive branch to Ulster Protestants—not a theological treatise.

To claim he was ‘as one’ with the Ulster Covenant is historical illiteracy. That document was anti-Irish and anti-Catholic to its marrow. Pearse, on the other hand, drew from the blood of martyrs—Catholic martyrs—whose sacrifice he believed sanctified Ireland. His writings are drenched in Catholic language, his worldview unmistakably shaped by the Faith.

“The spiritual thing which is the soul of Ireland had survived her physical death and risen again, clothed with strength and beauty… It is Christ’s Kingdom on Earth.”
— Patrick Pearse, The Spiritual Nation

This is not the language of a secular republican. Pearse saw Ireland as mystically wedded to Christ, the same Christ he invoked moments before his execution.

“My political opinions have always been in harmony with the teaching of the Catholic Church.”
— Pearse, Letter from Kilmainham Gaol

If he mentioned Tone or Emmet, it was to baptise their rebellion in Catholic sacrifice, not to elevate secularism. The idea that he was defying ‘Ne Temere’ is theological fantasy. Pearse was no Vatican bureaucrat—he was a mystic nationalist whose spiritual center was Calvary, not the Enlightenment salons.

“We must cleanse ourselves anew in the Blood of the Lamb… in the blood of martyrs.”
— Pearse, The Coming Revolution

Cut the revisionist rot: Pearse wasn’t hedging between Rome and rationalism—he was resurrecting Ireland through Christ, sword, and sacrament. Your reading is not clever. It’s just historically tone-deaf.

 

[SeekTheFairLand]

Seeks Claim: "Your non-infiltrated church was writing out the moral framework for globalist mass immigration in the 40s..."

Reality:
This is a historical lie or a deliberate conflation. The 1940s Church spoke about charity to refugees post-WWII—not borderless multiracial utopias. The difference between principled hospitality and modern globohomo-engineered demographic replacement is as wide as the Tiber. The infiltration began in earnest after WWII—particularly in the 1950s and 60s with the rise of the Nouvelle Théologie and eventual victory at Vatican II. Before this, the papal encyclicals like Quas Primas (1925) and Immortale Dei (1885) were focused on Christ the King and national sovereignty, not supranationalism.

.....

The current elites are not talking of globohomo engineered replacement either. Thats your chosen interpretation of their actions. They speak of charity to refugees and principled hospitality. They would consider their actions as no different to the stated position of the Pre Infiltrated church.

You choose to associate nefarious behaviour to the modern church as you have some theological issue with them.

However the words of the 1940s Church and 2020s politicians match each other.

And my interpretation is that they all lying globalist bastards who know exactly what they are at. And there is not a cigarette paper of difference between the 1940s church and the 2020 church when it comes to accepting immigration into our countries.

 

[SeekTheFairLand]

Good grief.

Ah, the tired old canard that Pearse was some closet Enlightenment liberal because the Proclamation didn't read like a papal bull. Let’s be clear: Pearse didn’t need to name the Catholic Church—he embodied it. His vision of Ireland was the fusion of Faith and Nation, not some Masonic fantasy of ‘neutral liberty.’ 'Civil and religious liberty' was a strategic line—an olive branch to Ulster Protestants—not a theological treatise.

To claim he was ‘as one’ with the Ulster Covenant is historical illiteracy. That document was anti-Irish and anti-Catholic to its marrow. Pearse, on the other hand, drew from the blood of martyrs—Catholic martyrs—whose sacrifice he believed sanctified Ireland. His writings are drenched in Catholic language, his worldview unmistakably shaped by the Faith.

This is not the language of a secular republican. Pearse saw Ireland as mystically wedded to Christ, the same Christ he invoked moments before his execution.

If he mentioned Tone or Emmet, it was to baptise their rebellion in Catholic sacrifice, not to elevate secularism. The idea that he was defying ‘Ne Temere’ is theological fantasy. Pearse was no Vatican bureaucrat—he was a mystic nationalist whose spiritual center was Calvary, not the Enlightenment salons.

Cut the revisionist rot: Pearse wasn’t hedging between Rome and rationalism—he was resurrecting Ireland through Christ, sword, and sacrament. Your reading is not clever. It’s just historically tone-deaf.

Nah, its the opposite. He wrote all that shite to be strategic, he knew he had to bring in the religious headcases like you. The same strategic posturing that modern republicans do with the LGBT crowd. Whatever works.

The stuff that was the core of the declared Republic, i.e The Proclamation was civil and religious liberty, thanking the Prods for all their rebellion and perfunctory nod to God.

He didn't read out the Spiritual Nation or the Coming Revolution from the steps of the GPO did he?

 

[Tiger]

John Mullins, big Fine Gaeler. LGBT pushing party and here he is getting the Catholic funeral Mass.
He's Catholic and supporting the Regime.

‘You were our greatest inspiration’ – children of businessman and Fine Gael election candidate John Mullins pay touching tribute at funeral mass

The funeral of Co Cork businessman John Mullins has heard he was an “inspiration” to his two children.

www.independent.ie

All the people you mentioned happen to be Catholic. You are choosing to emphasise their Catholicism. This dead FG happens to be Catholic and look at the crap he pushes. Lets emphasise his Catholicism here too.

Pathetically Seeks, you’re attempting to use Mullins' funeral as some grand example of Catholic virtue. How quaint. Let’s cut through the pathetic nonsense—what you’re seeing at that so called ‘Catholic’ ceremony isn’t even a proper Requiem Mass, but a watered-down, post-Vatican II farce that has more in common with a Freemasonic ritual than anything resembling the liturgies that the Saints of the past would have received. It is closer to Sheridan's pagan belief than orthodox Catholicism.

The so-called 'Mass' you’re referring to was designed by infiltrator - Annibale Bugnini, a Freemason whose reforms, aided by a committee of Jews and Protestants, sought to strip away the sacredness and tradition of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. This is a man who, was more concerned with pleasing globalist powers than preserving the true faith of the Church. So when you try to paint Mullins' 'funeral Mass' as some sort of beacon of Catholic tradition, let’s call a spade a spade—it’s a pale imitation of what the Saints would have received. It’s a pale imitation of the very Faith that once defended Europe from invasion. It's a humanist parody.

Now, when I talk about true Catholicism, I’m referring to the uncompromising faith that guided the Irish through centuries of trials and foreign invaders, a faith that demanded integrity, courage, and loyalty to God and country. What you’re referencing isn’t Catholicism; it’s the hollowed-out shell created by the revolutionaries who took over the Church in the mid-20th century. They’ve abandoned not just the traditional Mass but the whole concept of the Faith as the bedrock for protecting the sovereignty of nations.

But I guess that’s just it, isn’t it? You can’t seem to tell the difference between the 'religion' of the modernist Church and the true Catholicism that has always fought for national sovereignty and against the forces of globalism and immigration. Don’t let the pyrotechnics and vapid ceremonies fool you. The real Catholic resistance to the replacement of Ireland is found in the embers of the old faith, and not in the mealy-mouthed, compromised priests who stand by as the nation is sold out. Keep grasping at these distractions, though, it’s getting ever more obvious who’s really trying to defend Ireland’s soul.

But while you're busy psychologising the likes of Pearse’s faith as some kind of marketing gimmick, maybe you should turn the question around: Why aren’t you asking why there are so few—if any—Godless, secular materialists actually fighting the good fight today? Where are your atheist saints, your rationalist martyrs, your enlightened patriots resisting the globalist machine with sacrifice, conviction, and a sense of eternal destiny?

Instead, we get car-seat philosophers and keyboard pagans with Patreon accounts.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

In fact, it was Catholicism that gave Irish nationalism its martyrs

Oh boy

 

[Tiger]

Peadar Tobin quoted as fine example of a Catholic doing God's work.. is this same Toibin that voted and campaigned for a Yes vote in Same Sex Marriage referendum?

What evidence do you have for this claim?

It appears that now now we’ve resorted to telepathic polling to determine how Tóibín voted in the privacy of the ballot box? Bravo—yet another psychic sleuth sniffing out “evidence” that doesn’t exist. There is no public record of Peadar Tóibín voting for same-sex marriage, and given that he walked away from a cushy Sinn Féin career precisely because he wouldn’t budge on abortion, the idea that he suddenly had a Damascus Road conversion to rainbow theology is, frankly, hilarious.

But more to the point—at no stage did I say Tóibín was some flawless icon of Catholic orthodoxy. I said he’s one of the only public figures willing to utter even a peep about immigration while the rest of the political class sits in mute adoration of Brussels. That alone, however modest, sets him leagues ahead of your secular saints, who don’t even show up to the fight.

It’s curious, isn’t it? You spend all your time sneering at “religious headcases” while failing to offer even one Godless figure who’s doing half as much to challenge the demographic obliteration of this nation. Where are your atheist heroes, then? Who’s carrying the torch for the dispossessed Irish under your camp's watch?

Let’s call it what it is: the secular elite runs the regime, and they’re driving Ireland into the abyss with a bureaucratic grin and a rainbow pin. And instead of asking why your own ideological comrades are completely MIA in this existential fight, you’re playing Where’s Waldo with a ballot paper from 2015.

Tóibín, warts and all, at least has a spine. That’s more than can be said for the Godless crowd you refuse to name—because they don’t exist.

 

[SeekTheFairLand]

Pathetically Seeks, you’re attempting to use Mullins' funeral as some grand example of Catholic virtue. How quaint. Let’s cut through the pathetic nonsense—what you’re seeing at that so called ‘Catholic’ ceremony isn’t even a proper Requiem Mass, but a watered-down, post-Vatican II farce that has more in common with a Freemasonic ritual than anything resembling the liturgies that the Saints of the past would have received. It is closer to Sheridan's pagan belief than orthodox Catholicism.

The so-called 'Mass' you’re referring to was designed by infiltrator - Annibale Bugnini, a Freemason whose reforms, aided by a committee of Jews and Protestants, sought to strip away the sacredness and tradition of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. This is a man who, was more concerned with pleasing globalist powers than preserving the true faith of the Church. So when you try to paint Mullins' 'funeral Mass' as some sort of beacon of Catholic tradition, let’s call a spade a spade—it’s a pale imitation of what the Saints would have received. It’s a pale imitation of the very Faith that once defended Europe from invasion. It's a humanist parody.

Now, when I talk about true Catholicism, I’m referring to the uncompromising faith that guided the Irish through centuries of trials and foreign invaders, a faith that demanded integrity, courage, and loyalty to God and country. What you’re referencing isn’t Catholicism; it’s the hollowed-out shell created by the revolutionaries who took over the Church in the mid-20th century. They’ve abandoned not just the traditional Mass but the whole concept of the Faith as the bedrock for protecting the sovereignty of nations.

But I guess that’s just it, isn’t it? You can’t seem to tell the difference between the 'religion' of the modernist Church and the true Catholicism that has always fought for national sovereignty and against the forces of globalism and immigration. Don’t let the pyrotechnics and vapid ceremonies fool you. The real Catholic resistance to the replacement of Ireland is found in the embers of the old faith, and not in the mealy-mouthed, compromised priests who stand by as the nation is sold out. Keep grasping at these distractions, though, it’s getting ever more obvious who’s really trying to defend Ireland’s soul.

But while you're busy psychologising the likes of Pearse’s faith as some kind of marketing gimmick, maybe you should turn the question around: Why aren’t you asking why there are so few—if any—Godless, secular materialists actually fighting the good fight today? Where are your atheist saints, your rationalist martyrs, your enlightened patriots resisting the globalist machine with sacrifice, conviction, and a sense of eternal destiny?

Instead, we get car-seat philosophers and keyboard pagans with Patreon accounts.

Poor Mr Mullins, gets a Catholic Church funeral but he's judged by the True Decider of Whats Catholic, as not having had a proper funeral because of obscure theological reasons. Reasons that will remain obscure because these Defending Remnant are too precious to lower themselves to explain them to a wider population. Not for them a webcam or a Youtube. Its their club, and we're not it and they've no interest in bringing us into it. They're happy being the fringe as only the fringe is pure. Nobody else can do anything for Ireland, only the Fringe. The Fringe can save Ireland. if you can find them.

Anyway Mr Mullins funeral wasnt proper because 'reasons'.

yet Dana Scallon [ A true catholic nationalist of the purest kind] gets the highest papal decoration that its possible to get.. and she takes it!! Poor Mr Mullins doesnt even realise that he was't buried as a Catholic because 'Francis' church and masons' etc, but Dana? well she's is a Dame of the Order of St Gregory because of Francis' church and Masons.

Such is the heroic resistance of the True Catholics

 

[SeekTheFairLand]

What evidence do you have for this claim?

It appears that now now we’ve resorted to telepathic polling to determine how Tóibín voted in the privacy of the ballot box? Bravo—yet another psychic sleuth sniffing out “evidence” that doesn’t exist. There is no public record of Peadar Tóibín voting for same-sex marriage, and given that he walked away from a cushy Sinn Féin career precisely because he wouldn’t budge on abortion, the idea that he suddenly had a Damascus Road conversion to rainbow theology is, frankly, hilarious.

But more to the point—at no stage did I say Tóibín was some flawless icon of Catholic orthodoxy. I said he’s one of the only public figures willing to utter even a peep about immigration while the rest of the political class sits in mute adoration of Brussels. That alone, however modest, sets him leagues ahead of your secular saints, who don’t even show up to the fight.

It’s curious, isn’t it? You spend all your time sneering at “religious headcases” while failing to offer even one Godless figure who’s doing half as much to challenge the demographic obliteration of this nation. Where are your atheist heroes, then? Who’s carrying the torch for the dispossessed Irish under your camp's watch?

Let’s call it what it is: the secular elite runs the regime, and they’re driving Ireland into the abyss with a bureaucratic grin and a rainbow pin. And instead of asking why your own ideological comrades are completely MIA in this existential fight, you’re playing Where’s Waldo with a ballot paper from 2015.

Tóibín, warts and all, at least has a spine. That’s more than can be said for the Godless crowd you refuse to name—because they don’t exist.

Tobin was asked how he was voting for Same Sex Marriage by the Irish Times and he told them.

How is your local TD voting in the marriage referendum?

‘The Irish Times’ contacted every Dáil and Seanad member

www.irishtimes.com

another case of ignoring what these True Catholic say in public and instead accept the Judgement of Tiger who knows whats in the hearts of all men, and it usually what he wants it to be.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Nordie, why do you think Tiger deliberately won't answer two straight forward posts I made to him twice?

What's he afraid of?

 

[SeekTheFairLand]

The type of work the Heroic Catholic resistance Aontu are doing to stop the immigrant flood into the country. The best people to defend ireland from new-comers is to elect new-comers.

 

[SeekTheFairLand]

and another brave Aontu guy to defend Ireland from ethnic replacement

 

[SeekTheFairLand]

Nordie, why do you think Tiger deliberately won't answer two straight forward posts I made to him twice?

What's he afraid of?

I think he considers you a Protestant, and condemned to Hell for eternity for your heretical views.

 

[Tiger]

Tobin was asked how he was voting for Same Sex Marriage by the Irish Times and he told them.

How is your local TD voting in the marriage referendum?

‘The Irish Times’ contacted every Dáil and Seanad member

www.irishtimes.com

another case of ignoring what these True Catholic say in public and instead accept the Judgement of Tiger who knows whats in the hearts of all men, and it usually what he wants it to be.

I’m not even a particular fan of his, however just to be clear, is that crappy link to an Irish Times ‘table’ the full level of your evidence?

So, you’ve posted an Irish Times table that lists Tóibín as both “yes” and “null.” The “null” likely means there was no clear declaration of his position at the time, not that he outright endorsed or rejected same-sex marriage.

As far as I know, there’s no public statement from Tóibín actively supporting gay marriage. If you have any direct quotes or verifiable evidence of him endorsing it, I’d be happy to look into that.

Now, stepping back to the larger issue—this discussion is symptomatic of a deeper problem.

The real question here isn’t individual politicians' votes; it’s the vacuum created by the collapse of Catholic influence in Irish politics. When the Church's moral guidance receded, it opened the door for mass immigration, secularism, and globalism to shape Ireland’s future with very little resistance. This vacuum has been exploited by forces pushing an agenda that doesn’t serve the Irish people’s interests.

 

[Tiger]

The type of work the Heroic Catholic resistance Aontu are doing to stop the immigrant flood into the country. The best people to defend ireland from new-comers is to elect new-comers.

Who said Aontu were the heroic Catholic resistance?

Nobody.

You seem only able to debate by creating strawman arguments.

Aontu were only mentioned as a contrast to the complete and utter full spectrum compliance (without a word of dissent) from the mainstream Godless parties. Something that you fail to address or speak to.


So congratulations Seek, you’ve latched onto Aontú’s immigrant candidate as if it’s some masterstroke of a counter-argument, but let’s get real. I never said Aontú were the salvation of Ireland— in fact I said I wouldn't vote for them. I merely pointed out that, out of all the mainstream political parties, they’re one of the few who’ve dared to say something about the replacement crisis. Not that it counts for much, considering how utterly irrelevant they are in the grand scheme of things.

Let’s not pretend that’s the issue, though. You’re still avoiding the elephant in the room: While you're busy nitpicking, the entire political establishment is drunk on globalism and driving the bus to demographic replacement. Where are your secular, Godless crusaders?—those with zero skin in the Catholic game—who are standing up against the invasion of our land? What have they done? A whole lot of nothing. Your side doesn’t have a single atheist or secular nationalist worthy of the name who’s actively fighting this demographic war.

The irony is thick: Aontú, despite its flaws, is at least saying something, while the godless elite are too busy pushing for the total replacement of the Irish people, aided and abetted by your beloved globalists. So, spare us the lectures on Aontú’s blemishes and show me a single real opponent of replacement immigration from your ranks. If Aontú is beneath your standards, where’s the real resistance? The silence is deafening.

This isn’t some philosophical debate—it’s an existential crisis. And your only argument is attacking those who’ve spoken against the invasion, rather than stepping up to do anything about it yourself. So, tell me, where’s your real answer to the destruction of Ireland? Because right now, it’s just a game of pointing fingers while our country disintegrates.

So here we are 117 posts into this thread and this fat slob the only answer that you have...?

I don’t think you understand what this thread is about, so let me help you by starting a sentence and then you finish it.

Here it us…

I don’t think Peadar Toibin is a proper Nationalist fighting against the great replacement, certainly not compared to the Godless nationalist know as…….*insert answer*

 

[Tiger]

lol

Literally no nationalists in your list

Ok James, time to put up or shut up.

The point of this thread was to counter the idea that Nationalism died with Catholic Ireland.

With that in mind would you be so kind as to list your top 10 Godless nationalists?

Off you go…

 

[Nyob]

I mean, for God's sake, this is the guy he's saying is a nationalist


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