Is the European Union a good thing?

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Does the European Union perhaps simply need to be reformed so that it is more ideal?

If not, why did a Communist, Jeremy Corbyn, want to leave the European Union?

Trump said the European Union was created to compete with America. If that's the case, is a reformed European Union not necessary in order to prevent us from being controlled by America?
 
The EU (I've mentioned it a few times)
Was created with a few simple ideas.
Make sure that the people of Europe have.
Food
Energy
And fair and transparent trade rules and regulations.
Nothing else.
Do the above and pretty much leave everything else alone.
The insidious mission creep since mid 80s has accelerated to the bat shit crazy authoritarianism of the arch incompetent VDL and the placemen around her.
The EU is the real threat to Europe.
 
jpc said:
The EU (I've mentioned it a few times)
Was created with a few simple ideas.
Make sure that the people of Europe have.
Food
Energy
And fair and transparent trade rules and regulations.
Nothing else.
Do the above and pretty much leave everything else alone.
The insidious mission creep since mid 80s has accelerated to the bat shit crazy authoritarianism of the arch incompetent VDL and the placemen around her.
The EU is the real threat to Europe.
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The insidious mission creep since mid 80s has accelerated to the bat shit crazy authoritarianism of the arch incompetent VDL and the placemen around her.

That +1,000%
 
This is what the failing EU does best.
It's totally out of control and it will end badly all round.

EU admits blackmailing Serbian leader over Moscow visit​

Aleksandar Vucic will set back his bid to join the bloc should he attend Russia’s WWII victory celebration, Brussels has said
EU admits blackmailing Serbian leader over Moscow visit

FILE PHOTO: EU Commission, Brussels, Belgium on April 21, 2025. © Getty Images / Dursun Aydemir/Anadolu

The European Commission (EC) has admitted that it will negatively impact Serbia’s EU bid if President Aleksandar Vucic visits Moscow’s Victory Day celebrations as planned on May 9.
Russia plans to host a military parade in the center of the capital to mark the 80th anniversary of the Soviet Union’s 1945 triumph over Nazi Germany in World War II. EU top diplomat Kaja Kallas warned earlier this month that the bloc does not want any member or candidate states attending the event.
EC Commissioner for Enlargement Marta Kos met with Vucic on Tuesday and warned that his presence in Moscow would be held against Serbia’s EU aspirations, spokesperson Guillaume Mercier said in a press briefing in Brussels on Wednesday.
“The participation of President Vucic at the military parade in Moscow will impact” Belgrade’s EU accession process, the EC spokesperson said.

“She passed on the message that was shared by many other EU member states that the participation in Moscow will have an impact on the EU path,” he said when asked about what the EU response could be, but declined to elaborate further.
As Belgrade is vying for membership in the bloc, Serbia should use the occasion to demonstrate its “strategic direction,” Mercier said.
Earlier this month, Vucic told the press that he had not changed his decision to visit Moscow for the May 9 celebration. A unit of the Serbian Armed Forces will take part in the Victory Day parade on Red Square, the president said.

During World War II, Serbia, then part of Yugoslavia, was occupied by the Nazis and was liberated by the Red Army in 1944.
Moscow has extended numerous invitations to the May 9 celebration, including to China, India, and Brazil, as well as other international leaders. Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi will miss the event due to highly elevated tensions with neighboring Pakistan, but Defense Minister Rajnath Singh is expected to represent New Delhi at the event.
Russian President Vladimir Putin has hailed the courage of European leaders who have chosen to attend and celebrate the memory of the fight against Nazism, despite pressure from Brussels.


www.rt.com

EU admits blackmailing Serbian leader over Moscow visit

The European Commission has warned Serbian President Aleksandar Vucic that visiting Moscow for Victory Day will impact Serbia’s EU bid
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Wolf said:
This is what the failing EU does best.
It's totally out of control and it will end badly all round.

EU admits blackmailing Serbian leader over Moscow visit​

Aleksandar Vucic will set back his bid to join the bloc should he attend Russia’s WWII victory celebration, Brussels has said
EU admits blackmailing Serbian leader over Moscow visit

FILE PHOTO: EU Commission, Brussels, Belgium on April 21, 2025. © Getty Images / Dursun Aydemir/Anadolu

The European Commission (EC) has admitted that it will negatively impact Serbia’s EU bid if President Aleksandar Vucic visits Moscow’s Victory Day celebrations as planned on May 9.
Russia plans to host a military parade in the center of the capital to mark the 80th anniversary of the Soviet Union’s 1945 triumph over Nazi Germany in World War II. EU top diplomat Kaja Kallas warned earlier this month that the bloc does not want any member or candidate states attending the event.
EC Commissioner for Enlargement Marta Kos met with Vucic on Tuesday and warned that his presence in Moscow would be held against Serbia’s EU aspirations, spokesperson Guillaume Mercier said in a press briefing in Brussels on Wednesday.
“The participation of President Vucic at the military parade in Moscow will impact” Belgrade’s EU accession process, the EC spokesperson said.

“She passed on the message that was shared by many other EU member states that the participation in Moscow will have an impact on the EU path,” he said when asked about what the EU response could be, but declined to elaborate further.
As Belgrade is vying for membership in the bloc, Serbia should use the occasion to demonstrate its “strategic direction,” Mercier said.
Earlier this month, Vucic told the press that he had not changed his decision to visit Moscow for the May 9 celebration. A unit of the Serbian Armed Forces will take part in the Victory Day parade on Red Square, the president said.

During World War II, Serbia, then part of Yugoslavia, was occupied by the Nazis and was liberated by the Red Army in 1944.
Moscow has extended numerous invitations to the May 9 celebration, including to China, India, and Brazil, as well as other international leaders. Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi will miss the event due to highly elevated tensions with neighboring Pakistan, but Defense Minister Rajnath Singh is expected to represent New Delhi at the event.
Russian President Vladimir Putin has hailed the courage of European leaders who have chosen to attend and celebrate the memory of the fight against Nazism, despite pressure from Brussels.


www.rt.com

EU admits blackmailing Serbian leader over Moscow visit

The European Commission has warned Serbian President Aleksandar Vucic that visiting Moscow for Victory Day will impact Serbia’s EU bid
www.rt.com www.rt.com
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It's totally out of control and it will end badly all round

That + 1,000% !
 
The idea of the European Union was to put a stop to the nationalisms that lead to unending violence and aggression

It sought to end competition among so-called national interests for markets, resources and spheres of influence, that perpetually lead to national conflict.

The painful lessons of the generation that, from the end of the 19th century to 1945, lived through nationalism, and the ensuing German wars of unification, and the two world wars, the last of which nearly destroyed civilization, werecdrwn on to come up with the new idea of a postnational order.

Lessons which ignorant people today have turned their backs on in an attempt to repeat that history.
 
il fasco said:
Does the European Union perhaps simply need to be reformed so that it is more ideal?

If not, why did a Communist, Jeremy Corbyn, want to leave the European Union?

Trump said the European Union was created to compete with America. If that's the case, is a reformed European Union not necessary in order to prevent us from being controlled by America?
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You sir are not always correct according to me and my own personal prejudices- but I nonetheless admire you for taking a stab at reviving Medieval European norms. We still live in an age in which all that is deemed 18th century to be correct. Even two centuries later we still haven't recovered in the sense of what is to be considered right and what is considered to be wrong- anybody who dares disagree with the 'darlings of the so-called Enlightenment are deemed insane, or unworthy to hear. Feudalism of course seems barbaric to us- but t'was an age in which every Irishman / every fellow European could truly call their homeland, their mother nation. As much as I love to read about the French Revolution, I still read Hillaire Beloc......the Enlightenment of Voltaire and Jefferson wielded many benefits....but perhaps such men and their ideas are outdated, perhaps we need a new European ideal. Again- I'm bigoted towards European Enlightenment ideals....bul looking around at the world of me today.....I can no longer claim that my idealism is all but correct and yours wrong


You're a good poster and I don't always agree with you - but please continue to challenge minds in the way that you do.
 
I think the EU is a very easy scapegoat alright. As we saw with Convid in 2020, there are much bigger powers then the eu pulling strings behind the scene.
 
Jay Homer Simpson said:
I think the EU is a very easy scapegoat alright. As we saw with Convid in 2020, there are much bigger powers then the eu pulling strings behind the scene.
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America really controls the Eu and much more !

Just look what the Eu did to itself, with regard to Russia = = On the orders of America !
 
Jay Homer Simpson said:
I think the EU is a very easy scapegoat alright. As we saw with Convid in 2020, there are much bigger powers then the eu pulling strings behind the scene.
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I would be better inclined to go along with this if the EU was not so mad keen on promoting the globalist agenda.
 
The absolute police state law brought in a couple of years ago in the UK that will make it illegal in the future for a 50 year old to buy cigarettes was introduced by a Tory Prime minister, if someone had told me 10 years ago about such a law coming, I'd have thought it would be the EU to blame, but no, what has leaving the EU done for the average Brit ?
 
Can the EU survive if Putin gobbles up all Ukraine and all that money is never to be returned. There is a very large can for someone to be left holding
 
Declan said:
Can the EU survive if Putin gobbles up all Ukraine and all that money is never to be returned. There is a very large can for someone to be left holding
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It might have been better not to have actively supported the Ukrainians.
And furthermore the Russians sre not going to take over all of Ukraine.
That's not the plan and it's a surefire guarantee to impoverishment for Russians.
Financially and far more relevant politically with non stop insurgency.
And if the hoi poli morons of Euro politics finally provoke a direct conflict with Russia.
Do they still believe the US will risk a nuclear weapon?
Think again.
 
I could see Kiev getting nuked this week myself actually
 
Or perhaps it was the year it became obvious that the European elites were taking orders from someone who isn’t the Americans and who doesn’t give a damn about the various European peoples.
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2025: The Year Europe Lost its Mind - Vox Popoli

Or perhaps it was the year it became obvious that the European elites were taking orders from someone who isn’t the Americans and who doesn’t give a damn about the various European peoples. To be fair to the dismal year on the way out, at least 2025 won’t be a hard act to beat. In […]
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jpc said:
It's the Telegraph I know!
That pointed out.
A good article.
Bulgaria adopts the euro. It risks sparking the EU’s next crisis https://share.google/sy897fDDVlOsXuOqy
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The EU really is 'cruisin for a brusin' led by a total nut job who has no interest in democracy or furthering the lives of Europeans. It is indicative of just how bad it's got that Starmer wants to cuddle up and be friends again.
 
PlunkettsGhost said:

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The EU is about as useful to the citizens of Europe as tits are on a bull.
The Fourthe Reich is about impoverishing it's citizens while enriching the likes of Van der Cuntface and leading to cushy numbers for idiot Paddy politicians like Mehole and Simple Simon.
It needs to be dismantled one way or an other.
What started off as an economic block, the EEC, has now morphed into some authoritarian cult which bullies and threatens any country that wants a different approach or that wants to decide it's own laws and rules.
Brussels is the home of economic terrorists.
 
How Von der Cuntface and the Fourth Reich operates.
Basically blackmail.

The Irish Farmers' Association has said the Government must continue to oppose the Mercosur trade agreement, despite the latest move by the EU Commission to link it to CAP funding.

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Govt to decide on Mercosur support ahead of EU vote

The Taoiseach has not ruled out Ireland supporting the EU-Mercosur trade deal, which member states will vote to either accept or reject on Friday.
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Wolf said:
How Von der Cuntface and the Fourth Reich operates.
Basically blackmail.

The Irish Farmers' Association has said the Government must continue to oppose the Mercosur trade agreement, despite the latest move by the EU Commission to link it to CAP funding.

www.rte.ie

Govt to decide on Mercosur support ahead of EU vote

The Taoiseach has not ruled out Ireland supporting the EU-Mercosur trade deal, which member states will vote to either accept or reject on Friday.
www.rte.ie www.rte.ie
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There are many farmers (but not all) who would welcome the banishment of subsidies and just get a good and fair price for their product, but governments use them to control farmers, so it ain't going to happen.
 
The ridiculously and childishly named 'Coalition of The Willing' is fully intent of slaughtering as many young European men as possible.
These psychopaths need to be stopped in whatever way it takes.


MERZ TELLS ZELENSKY TO STOP YOUNG MEN FROM LEAVING UKRAINE


The West has “certain expectations” Kiev should meet in exchange for its economic aid, the German chancellor said
Merz tells Zelensky to stop young men from leaving Ukraine

Chancellor Friedrich Merz and Ukraine’s Vladimir Zelensky taking part in a press conference in Paris, France. © Getty Images / Tom Nicholson


Ukraine must create conditions that encourage its young men to remain in the country rather than flee to Western Europe, German Chancellor Friedrich Merz has said.
Merz made the statement while standing next to Ukrainian leader Vladimir Zelensky at a press-conference following a ‘Coalition of the Willing’ meeting in Paris on Tuesday. Additionally, the UK and France announced plans to send troops to Ukraine “in the event of a peace deal” with Russia, despite the fact that Moscow has categorically ruled out the deployment of any NATO forces in the country.
According to the German chancellor, rebuilding Ukraine and providing security guarantees are indivisible issues. Only an economically strong Kiev can present a credible deterrent to Moscow after the conflict is settled, he said.
However, Ukraine’s Western backers have “certain expectations” that Kiev should meet in exchange for economic assistance and help with rebuilding, he added.

“Ukraine must make sure that its young men can find decent jobs in their own country rather than travel to Germany, Poland, or France… and I think this is an expectation that Ukraine can meet and will meet,” Merz insisted.
The chancellor refused to speculate on how soon a diplomatic solution might be found, saying “no one can say today whether the arms will be silenced in Ukraine in six weeks or in six months.”
Following the outbreak of the conflict with Russia in February of 2022, Ukraine barred nearly all adult men from leaving the country. However, the rules were relaxed for males aged 18 to 22 last August, reportedly leading to almost 100,000 young men fleeing the country.
Kiev’s recruitment drive has grown increasingly brutal amid manpower shortages caused by heavy losses at the front, large-scale draft dodging, and desertion. Hundreds of cases have been documented where enlistment officers have violently snatched conscripts from the streets.
Last month, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova noted that the authorities in Kiev have told draft officials to “tighten the screws to the max” to get as many as two million new troops by early 2026.
READ MORE: Putin envoy mocks Zelensky’s new staffer
Throughout the conflict, Moscow has repeatedly accused the West of willing to fight Russia “until the last Ukrainian.”
 
"Ukraine must create conditions that encourage its young men to remain in the country rather than flee to Western Europe, German Chancellor Friedrich Merz has said."

What a twisted man!
 
jpc said:
"Ukraine must create conditions that encourage its young men to remain in the country rather than flee to Western Europe, German Chancellor Friedrich Merz has said."

What a twisted man!
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Stop Keir Starmer hiring Ukrainian Rent-Boys for a start ! ! !
 
The one thing the EU needs is a total opt out clause on any policy, without compensation. If there is some stupid rule that doesn't work for one country, they just don't apply it.

The Mercosur vote is crazy: There are enough states to block it, but the states that oppose it, like Italy and Ireland, don't want to upset the majority, so it looks like they will actually vote for it.

Disgraceful to hear M Martin saying he hasn't made up his mind yet to vote for or against. What a nasty piece of work he is.
 
Diarmuid said:
Disgraceful to hear M Martin saying he hasn't made up his mind yet to vote for or against.
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Irish govt have flipped! They are going to vote against Mercosur. They must be monitoring Sarsfield's. When they saw this issue was getting traction, they rang Micky Martin in Shanghai and told him "pull it".

Overheard the telecom engineers in Leitrim bitching about Mercosur today.
 
I really fail to understand the wailing and gnashing of teeth on the part of the Danes and the rest of the European Union. If there are millions of Americans who are just seeking a better life in Greenland, then who are the European Union to stand in their way?

Especially considering the way in which the free movement of peoples is enshrined into the EU constitution as a fundamental human right. Because mass immigration is just neo-colonialism.

If Americans want Greenland, they have a right to it. Greenland is just an idea. It belongs to the world. And it isn’t even green, anyhow.

The amusing thing about the morons of Clown World is that they never seem to anticipate the inevitability of their own rhetoric being used against them by others operating in their own self-interest.
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Greenland Needs Americans - Vox Popoli

I really fail to understand the wailing and gnashing of teeth on the part of the Danes and the rest of the European Union. If there are millions of Americans who are just seeking a better life in Greenland, then who are the European Union to stand in their way? Especially considering the way in […]
voxday.net voxday.net
 
PlunkettsGhost said:

Greenland Needs Americans - Vox Popoli

I really fail to understand the wailing and gnashing of teeth on the part of the Danes and the rest of the European Union. If there are millions of Americans who are just seeking a better life in Greenland, then who are the European Union to stand in their way? Especially considering the way in […]
voxday.net voxday.net
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Can't say that I have heard much wailing from the EU, I get the feeling that they haven't a clue on this one, life has just got complicated and they can't cope.

I am a little bit puzzled by the actual status of Greenland, just what is Denmark's commitment to the country, and by extension, Europe's? It is though mighty embarrassing for VdL and co to have America do just what they have been castigating Russia for doing.
 
Mad as Fish said:
I am a little bit puzzled by the actual status of Greenland, just what is Denmark's commitment to the country, and by extension, Europe's? It is though mighty embarrassing for VdL and co to have America do just what they have been castigating Russia for doing.
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And from the EU perspective, Greenland is indefensible against a serious attack. May as well cut a deal and walk away with some cash.
 
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