Could Iran v Israel turn nuclear? A possible indication from the Occult/Masonic world

willows68 said:
Agree. It is kabuki theatre. Trump leading the standing ovation for the 'wonderful people', the Clintons, at his inauguration reception has been largely memoryholed. And he never locked her up either of course.
We have ringside seats to the greatest show on Earth.
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I watched the Joe Rogan / Donald Trump interview ~ In short bits over time ~ Most of it pretty banal and just Donald Trump as we know him.

It's hard to come away from that, other than to believe that Donald Trump is just an entertaining character in a soap opera ( JR Ewing for us oldies )

So ~ ~ Basically American Elections are just entertaining Soap Operas for people interested in Politics.

Behind it all ~ ~ The American Deep-State / Dark-State controls it all ~ ~ American Democracy is a sham as is most of the Democracies around the world.

I still want Donald Trump to win, just for the entertainment of it all ~ ~ But it is really hard to suspend the disbelief these days.
 
clarke-connolly said:
I watched the Joe Rogan / Donald Trump interview ~ In short bits over time ~ Most of it pretty banal and just Donald Trump as we know him.

It's hard to come away from that, other than to believe that Donald Trump is just an entertaining character in a soap opera ( JR Ewing for us oldies )

So ~ ~ Basically American Elections are just entertaining Soap Operas for people interested in Politics.

Behind it all ~ ~ The American Deep-State / Dark-State controls it all ~ ~ American Democracy is a sham as is most of the Democracies around the world.

I still want Donald Trump to win, just for the entertainment of it all ~ ~ But it is really hard to suspend the disbelief these days.
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Yup. And let's not forget our own dog and pony show about to commence. I have been haunted by the Healy- Raes already, and a calendar with his mug to prove it
Sigh.
Can't wait to eat the Green candidate for breakfast šŸ¤£
 
clarke-connolly said:
I watched the Joe Rogan / Donald Trump interview ~ In short bits over time ~ Most of it pretty banal and just Donald Trump as we know him.

It's hard to come away from that, other than to believe that Donald Trump is just an entertaining character in a soap opera ( JR Ewing for us oldies )

So ~ ~ Basically American Elections are just entertaining Soap Operas for people interested in Politics.

Behind it all ~ ~ The American Deep-State / Dark-State controls it all ~ ~ American Democracy is a sham as is most of the Democracies around the world.

I still want Donald Trump to win, just for the entertainment of it all ~ ~ But it is really hard to suspend the disbelief these days.
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Yes I feel the same. The ginger head man is entertaining, like when he called yer man a fat c*nt and said his red button was bigger.
 
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Could Iran v Israel turn nuclear? A possible indication from the Occult/Masonic world​


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Well the thing is that mainstream authorities admit that Freemasonry has played an important role at certain times and places at least in Western history and than there is the fact that if not entirely secret it is an extremely secretive Religion (and one outside of fringe groups within it such as the OTO disallowing women). In the six counties it is just a fact that you have three major Religious groups- Catholic Christians, Protestant Christians and Freemasons who are often, understandably the way things function there but essentially wrongly, lumped into the category "Protestant". The Orange Order is a Freemasonic organization for instance. How important a role it plays now in the actual corridors of power in the US and the UK is difficult for me to gauge but certainly in France it retains a grips on the centres of power.

The reason for the popularity of David Icke amongst Baby Boomers and Gen X in England and Wales is that they have seen over their lives a massive contraction of civil liberties and a concentration of real political power in smaller and smaller circles with BOTH of the major parties playing massives roles in this. If you strip away the stuff about space aliens and the Occult David Icke often does offer a decent analysis of the goings on of the British Elite.
 
willows68 said:
Agree. It is kabuki theatre. Trump leading the standing ovation for the 'wonderful people', the Clintons, at his inauguration reception has been largely memoryholed. And he never locked her up either of course.
We have ringside seats to the greatest show on Earth.
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Most people on the Trump Train do not believe that happened.

and most people act as if he was not president for four years
 
Declan said:
Most people on the Trump Train do not believe that happened.

and most people act as if he was not president for four years
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I don't think his stuff with the Clintons is incriminating as some people seem to think- it was a long time ago, people change, etc.

The people acting as if he was not President already on the other hand is worrying. On the "Dem side" you have people who probably do know better like Medhi Hasan separating Kamala Harris from the Biden Administration even though with Biden's cognitive decline she was the highest ranking person within it who was compos mentis- and it seems especially in large parts of the Irish bourgeoisie a lot of people are desparate to believe this nonsense.
 
clarke-connolly said:
I watched the Joe Rogan / Donald Trump interview ~ In short bits over time ~ Most of it pretty banal and just Donald Trump as we know him.

It's hard to come away from that, other than to believe that Donald Trump is just an entertaining character in a soap opera ( JR Ewing for us oldies )

So ~ ~ Basically American Elections are just entertaining Soap Operas for people interested in Politics.

Behind it all ~ ~ The American Deep-State / Dark-State controls it all ~ ~ American Democracy is a sham as is most of the Democracies around the world.

I still want Donald Trump to win, just for the entertainment of it all ~ ~ But it is really hard to suspend the disbelief these days.
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If Trump is no different to the Democrats why did they go to such lengths to prevent him running, multiple spurious legal cases, lax personal security, imprisoning his prominent supporters (Bannon, Navarro) , raiding his home etc etc ..
 
Neptune said:
If Trump is no different to the Democrats why did they go to such lengths to prevent him running, multiple spurious legal cases, lax personal security, imprisoning his prominent supporters (Bannon, Navarro) , raiding his home etc etc ..
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That answers itself to some extent, non? He's not a Democrat

I mean, I would agree with the idea that it's mostly a dog and pony show but I would assume that there is a genuine power struggle
 
Neptune said:
If Trump is no different to the Democrats why did they go to such lengths to prevent him running, multiple spurious legal cases, lax personal security, imprisoning his prominent supporters (Bannon, Navarro) , raiding his home etc etc ..
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A Soap Opera needs Soap Opera plots ~ ~ To Sell Soap !
 
To make sure a real leader gets no traction, the likes of Tom Massie or tand Paul, both from Kentucky, a representative and a senator
 
Yes its racketing up again. I dunno WWIII feels inevitable somehow and if it happens realistically it will be, to some extent anyway, nuclear.
 
I certainly don't NO. Actually I think, at a very high level, the Occultists do. Believe it or not I think they hope to bring about the conditions of the 'End Times' and they are up for Lucifer in that scenario!

Cracked I agree, but that's what they think and wish to bring about I believe. I don't believe we are in the 'End Times' at all, but that's not to say we could be in very difficult times....
 
scolairebocht said:
I certainly don't NO. Actually I think, at a very high level, the Occultists do. Believe it or not I think they hope to bring about the conditions of the 'End Times' and they are up for Lucifer in that scenario!

Cracked I agree, but that's what they think and wish to bring about I believe. I don't believe we are in the 'End Times' at all, but that's not to say we could be in very difficult times....
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I believe we are in very strange times .
we were forced to take a biological warfare spike protein which has changed humanity's dna and is now transmitted by semen to un vaccinated women .
somebody knows the end result .
i have never threatened to kill anyone publicly in my life --if my family are facing a death sentence --before i die somebody will pay -what have i got to lose .
 
I'm on the side of Iran because Islam is preferable to Judaism.

That being said, I'm on neither side. I'm on the side of a religious Europe working together to oppose both.
 
SwordOfStZip said:
Well the thing is that mainstream authorities admit that Freemasonry has played an important role at certain times and places at least in Western history and than there is the fact that if not entirely secret it is an extremely secretive Religion (and one outside of fringe groups within it such as the OTO disallowing women). In the six counties it is just a fact that you have three major Religious groups- Catholic Christians, Protestant Christians and Freemasons who are often, understandably the way things function there but essentially wrongly, lumped into the category "Protestant". The Orange Order is a Freemasonic organization for instance. How important a role it plays now in the actual corridors of power in the US and the UK is difficult for me to gauge but certainly in France it retains a grips on the centres of power.

The reason for the popularity of David Icke amongst Baby Boomers and Gen X in England and Wales is that they have seen over their lives a massive contraction of civil liberties and a concentration of real political power in smaller and smaller circles with BOTH of the major parties playing massives roles in this. If you strip away the stuff about space aliens and the Occult David Icke often does offer a decent analysis of the goings on of the British Elite.
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FREEMASONRY IS JUDAISM FOR THE GENTILES .
i cant remember who said that but it is true .
i don't think your average orange men knows anything about juadisim .
i once asked John Taylor /lord Kilclooney and lord reg Empy and lord Paul Bew who is the historian to the orange order did they ever hear of this fellow and i showed them the wiki entry for lopes Sausso and it showed he financed William of orange and i used a highlighter to show this relevant sentence .
they all stated to me they had never heard of him and i could not be cheeky and say anything else --i said prior i was writing something and this came up .
i was working for the house of lords in kilkenny where the British /Irish parliamentary sessions were taking place .
see photos on my bus.
 

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This Israel/Iran thing could be back on again even maybe tonight, at least some on twitter are talking about explosions there, but that might just be rumours.

Most see this in the context of the fall of the Shia Islamic state in Iran, which could happen who knows, but the other point is that it could also signal the destruction of Israel, at least as we currently know it. What I mean is that Iran showed in the last conflict that it has a big missile capability, and these can get through unmolested to their target. A major strike on these lines could destroy Israel, which is after all quite a small country and actually then much more vulnerable to such strikes than the far larger Iran.
 
scolairebocht said:
This Israel/Iran thing could be back on again even maybe tonight, at least some on twitter are talking about explosions there, but that might just be rumours.

Most see this in the context of the fall of the Shia Islamic state in Iran, which could happen who knows, but the other point is that it could also signal the destruction of Israel, at least as we currently know it. What I mean is that Iran showed in the last conflict that it has a big missile capability, and these can get through unmolested to their target. A major strike on these lines could destroy Israel, which is after all quite a small country and actually then much more vulnerable to such strikes than the far larger Iran.
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Not saying that you are incorrect ~ But just in my own opinion, I have serious doubts as to whether Iran could do any serious damage to Israel. I doubt that the American, Deep-State / Dark-State, and Israel would ever have allowed them to get to that situation ~ I may of course be wrong.

The American, Deep-State / Dark-State, and Israel would have been mightily foolish to have ever let them Iran get that sort of capability ! !
 
I take your point but for me the Deep State globalists will not mind at all destroying Israel and a lot of Jews, because anyway, I think, at heart they are Occultists rather than Jews.
And in fact I would say the American deep state wouldn't mind destroying America, they all work for this Globalist agenda and don't mind who they kill and destroy along the way.
 
Anyways it does look as if the Iranian military machine is mostly intact at this moment? Hence if they are attacked they are bound to hit at Israel and Tel Aviv is very vulnerable.
 
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Mr Bocht do you believe in the End Times when all Jews will have to accept Christ or be condemned to eternal torture?
 
Everybody at some point has to accept Our Lord or if not when they die they go to hell. Its called extra eccelesiam nulla salus, outside the Church there is no salvation. Its always like that, not just in reference to the End Times.
 
But what about some poor aul divils in far flung parts of the Earth that never even heard of Jesus?
 
Thats actually then one of the great engines behind the Irish missionary push of the 20th century, to save people like that. I was actually at a conference once at one of the Irish missionary order Hqs, and an older missionary said that the guys he knew years ago all talked about EENS (the Latin above) but he himself was a very post Vat II guy who didn't believe that longstanding doctrine.
 
But what about the folks who never came in contact with said missionaries through no fault of their own.

Why would they end up in eternal damnation?
 
Ultimately it comes down to a mystery, as humans we don't know everything.

There is also a phenonemon you hear about a lot where Our Lord can visit people just as they die, including people of non Christian faiths, and if you accept Him then then you have a chance at salvation.

Anyway the point is that maybe not all that many people ever get to heaven, whether they are Christians or not, and also almost nobody goes to heaven immediately on death. Because even if you are due to get to heaven at some point you have to go through the terrible fires of purgatory first.
 
scolairebocht said:
Ultimately it comes down to a mystery, as humans we don't know everything.
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How convenient

scolairebocht said:
Anyway the point is that maybe not all that many people ever get to heaven, whether they are Christians or not, and also almost nobody goes to heaven immediately on death. Because even if you are due to get to heaven at some point you have to go through the terrible fires of purgatory first.
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You are a nice man Mr Bocht but the fact that you believe this ridiculous rubbish reduces all your other input to shit.
 
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