Could Iran v Israel turn nuclear? A possible indication from the Occult/Masonic world

According to TASS the Iranians are pretty much of the opinion that US/Israel are clueless about what they are supposed to be doing and are looking for a settlement.

"Today, after 15 days of the war, the enemy is in disarray, and within its leadership, there are accusations of a lack of strategy. The enemy is now considering how to engage with Iran to end the war. The enemy acknowledges its defeat," he said as quoted by the SNN television channel.
 

For five years in office, President Trump has operated with intuition, impulse and improvisation.

The Iran war, now entering Week 3, is the first time Trump's style has made it impossible for him to easily talk or improvise his way out.
Why it matters: Trump could wind up trapped between his caprice and the realities of war. He expects a quick, clear victory. But unlike tariffs that can be swiftly imposed and rescinded, the war's outcome is beyond unilateral control and quick fixes. And Iran gets a say.

Trump is working to help break the Persian Gulf oil jam. But in doing so, he risks getting caught in an "escalation trap," where a stronger force is incentivized to keep attacking to demonstrate dominance amid diminishing returns.

A senior Trump administration official practically admitted as much, telling Axios' Marc Caputo: "The Iranians f*cking around with the Strait makes [Trump] more dug in."

State of play: Israel wants regime change in Iran and more dramatic military destruction as it weighs an invasion of Lebanon. Bibi Netanyahu has shown several times that when it comes to Iran, he has the ability to convince Trump to take his side.

Iran wants survival — and to prove it can impose pain, militarily and economically, to scare off future attacks.
And other nations want the free flow of oil and commerce through the Middle East's waters and air.

What we're watching: Averaging out the timelines mentioned by Trump and his aides, it's fair to assume the administration expected an intense military operation lasting about 4-6 weeks. That makes April 1 (Day 33 of the war) a real gut-check moment.

But in Washington and in capitals around the world, officials are preparing for a much longer crisis. Axios' Barak Ravid tells us he's heard from three different people in the administration and in allied countries who believe the instability in the Middle East and U.S. involvement could continue until September, even if the war shifts to a low-intensity conflict.

Israel told journalists it plans at least three more weeks of attacks on thousands of additional targets in Iran.

The president said Sunday in a phone call with the Financial Times' Ed Luce: "We've essentially decimated Iran ... They have no navy, no anti-aircraft, no air force, everything is gone. The only thing they can do is make a little trouble by putting a mine in the water — a nuisance, but the nuisance can cause problems."

Anna Kelly, the White House's principal deputy press secretary, emphasized to us that Operation Epic Fury is the result of "months and months of meticulous planning," with "ample options" provided to the president, who took all of his top officials' views into account as he made the final decision.

Trump could pull out tomorrow. But the Iranians could keep the Strait of Hormuz closed and push oil prices so high that America would have to re-engage.

The Iranians have made it clear in private and in public that even if Trump decides to end the war, they could continue shooting missiles and rockets until they get guarantees that this is the end of the war, not just a temporary ceasefire.

Behind the scenes: Trump has grown accustomed to doing what he wants and then quickly improvising if things go south. But this time, some in his inner circle have what one official called "buyer's remorse" — growing fears that attacking Iran was a mistake.

A source close to the administration said some key officials around Trump were reluctant or wanted more time. "He ended up saying, 'I just want to do it,'" the source said. "He grossly overestimated his ability to topple the regime short of sending in ground troops."
The source said Trump was "high on his own supply" after last summer's quick strikes in Iran and January's abduction of Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro: "He saw multiple decisive quick victories with extraordinary military competence."

Reality check: Trump's war of choice certainly looks like a military success so far. Iran's missile and drone launches have greatly decreased, indicating it's running out of weapons or the ability to fire them.

The U.S. and Israeli air forces have overhead supremacy to bomb at will.
Much of the Iranian navy is underwater.
The ayatollah and senior leaders have been killed.

The U.S. military death toll (at least 13) could have been greater for this breadth of action.
What's next: Trump now may have to make a tough decision on a significant military escalation — new territory for him as president.

Some officials close to him had hoped he'd be able to show some quick gains and declare victory. Now, it's not apparent how he'd do that convincingly.

As Barak reported, the U.S. doesn't have clear enough lines of communication with the Iranian regime to make a deal that's sure to stick. Trump said on Truth Social on Friday night that Iran "is totally defeated and wants a deal - But not a deal that I would accept!"

The bottom line: To claim victory, the Iranian regime just needs to stay alive.
 
Why are Far Left retards bemoaning the destruction of Iran?
Why are the pink haired, fat and ugly mob up in arms?
Why are the trannies and fag gots upset?

The ragheads hate all the above and want them killed so ya gotta wonder why these spastics are supporting Iran and the other ragheads in Palestine!


I understand that TDS is a known and verifiable mental illness but cheering on one's own sociatal destruction and death really is something else.
 
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The other vid defo shows six, but ony when the hand is upturned.
For all we know, Nethanyahu has been dead the last ten years and that they've been faking it since then.

Israelis invading Lebannon again. They've been doing that since the 1980s. This must be the tenth or twentieth invasion at this point. Didn't Paul Brady sing about it: The cedars of Lebannon are burning.

Apparently the EU has put sanctions on Iran - but not on Israel!!! And Simon Harris and Michael Martin go along with this? They are shameless Israeli bootlickers.

I wonder will the Israelis kill a few irish soldiers while they are invading. It must be tempting for them: they know they can kill as many irishmen as they want with total impunity. No Irish politician will take any action against them. The EU will not impose sanctions. Irish Zionists will be quick to make excuses and talk about the fog of war.

If the Iranians have any missiles left, they should use them to save Lebannon.
 
For all we know, Nethanyahu has been dead the last ten years and that they've been faking it since then.

Israelis invading Lebannon again. They've been doing that since the 1980s. This must be the tenth or twentieth invasion at this point. Didn't Paul Brady sing about it: The cedars of Lebannon are burning.

Apparently the EU has put sanctions on Iran - but not on Israel!!! And Simon Harris and Michael Martin go along with this? They are shameless Israeli bootlickers.

I wonder will the Israelis kill a few irish soldiers while they are invading. It must be tempting for them: they know they can kill as many irishmen as they want with total impunity. No Irish politician will take any action against them. The EU will not impose sanctions. Irish Zionists will be quick to make excuses and talk about the fog of war.

If the Iranians have any missiles left, they should use them to save Lebannon.
Sanctions have been in place for a few years now in response to Human rights violations. The latest round targets 19 Iranian officials for, allegedly, the same reasons.

 
For all we know, Nethanyahu has been dead the last ten years and that they've been faking it since then.

Israelis invading Lebannon again. They've been doing that since the 1980s. This must be the tenth or twentieth invasion at this point. Didn't Paul Brady sing about it: The cedars of Lebannon are burning.

Apparently the EU has put sanctions on Iran - but not on Israel!!! And Simon Harris and Michael Martin go along with this? They are shameless Israeli bootlickers.

I wonder will the Israelis kill a few irish soldiers while they are invading. It must be tempting for them: they know they can kill as many irishmen as they want with total impunity. No Irish politician will take any action against them. The EU will not impose sanctions. Irish Zionists will be quick to make excuses and talk about the fog of war.

If the Iranians have any missiles left, they should use them to save Lebannon.
Look at how the EU treat Russia v how they treat the US and Israel, the hyprocesy on display is breathtaking. I assume this all flows down from Von der layen?
 
Look at how the EU treat Russia v how they treat the US and Israel, the hyprocesy on display is breathtaking. I assume this all flows down from Von der layen?
Von Leyen is a creature of the EU mindset which promotes itself as hugely important in the functioning of the world, yet is little more than a collection of smug time servers concerned more about their pensions and perks than the general well being of EU citizens.

Like all bureaucrats they follow the line of least resistence while pretending to be all powerful and relevant. It was easy to hate Russia and promote Ukraine as it simply took up where the Cold War left off, but the US/Israel attacking Iran? Well, that's not quite the effortless sell that the home conflict was. The EU finds itself out of its comfort zone and all at sea, and it shows.
 
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Having won the war in the first hour Trump is now threatening NATO with 'a very bad future' unless they help him win it again two weeks later -

US president Donald Trump warned NATO allies that the alliance may face a “very bad future” if they don’t help the United States in its war against Iran, FT reports.
It's been asked elsewhere whether Trump was actually asking for help or just exposing the fact that NATO members don't have any real capability to respond to military threats, ie, it's just another toothless tiger.

He has said before that Europe should look after its own defence, now he may be saying that they can't anyway, the logical follow up being that if they want the US to act as nanny then they better do as Nanny says. This would also help explain the hypocrisy of the EU with regards to the Ukraine and Middle East situation.

Meanwhile, the Gulf states are also pulling at Nanny's skirt, no wonder Trump can feel that he has the power to do and say as he wishes -

Gulf Arab states have urged the United States to not stop short in its conflict with Iran, warning that leaving Tehran capable of disruption threatens regional oil flows and economies, according to news agency Reuters.
 
It's been asked elsewhere whether Trump was actually asking for help or just exposing the fact that NATO members don't have any real capability to respond to military threats, ie, it's just another toothless tiger.

He has said before that Europe should look after its own defence, now he may be saying that they can't anyway, the logical follow up being that if they want the US to act as nanny then they better do as Nanny says. This would also help explain the hypocrisy of the EU with regards to the Ukraine and Middle East situation.

Meanwhile, the Gulf states are also pulling at Nanny's skirt, no wonder Trump can feel that he has the power to do and say as he wishes -

Gulf Arab states have urged the United States to not stop short in its conflict with Iran, warning that leaving Tehran capable of disruption threatens regional oil flows and economies, according to news agency Reuters.
Totally wrong as usual. Europe is already looking after the Red Sea.


I dont see why they should now come to the rescue of the US in the Gulf. EU countries rely on the Gulf for just 12% of oil and 10% of gas imports over the year, and we are heading into summer so it will be even less now.


EU countries can and are cutting fuel tax....the US has no such buffer for its consumers.

Roll on the mid-terms. I dont think even the vote rigging SAVE act could help now.
 
Von Leyen is a creature of the EU mindset which promotes itself as hugely important in the functioning of the world, yet is little more than a collection of smug time servers concerned more about their pensions and perks than the general well being of EU citizens.

Like all bureaucrats they follow the line of least resistence while pretending to be all powerful and relevant. It was easy to hate Russia and promote Ukraine as it simply took up where the Cold War left off, but the US/Israel attacking Iran? Well, that's not quite the effortless sell that the home conflict was. The EU finds itself out of its comfort zone and all at sea, and it shows.

Just to add to your excellent observations

The EU finds itself out of its comfort zone and all at sea, and all out of energy and it shows
 
He's gone totally deluded.
He chose his advisors poorly and here things stand.
These are the advisors he wanted in his first term, but others saw better sense and kept the training wheels on for those 4 years.
 
And so it begins......

Belgian PM blasted for calling to normalize ties with Russia​

Bart De Wever says the EU must negotiate with Moscow to end the Ukraine war and restore access to affordable gas
Published 17 Mar, 2026 15:54 | Updated 17 Mar, 2026 15:57
Belgian PM blasted for calling to normalize ties with Russia

Belgian Prime Minister Bart De Wever. © Getty Images / Philip Reynaers; Photonews

Belgian Prime Minister Bart De Wever has sparked a firestorm of criticism after calling on the EU to normalize relations with Moscow and restore access to cheap Russian energy, as the bloc grapples with soaring prices exacerbated by the US-Israeli war on Iran.
In an interview with Belgian newspaper L’Echo published over the weekend, De Wever argued that Europe’s dual strategy of arming Kiev and squeezing Russia’s economy has failed.

“Since we are not capable of threatening [Russian President Vladimir] Putin by sending weapons to Ukraine, and we cannot choke him economically without the support of the US, there is only one method left: making a deal,” he said.

“We must normalize relations with Russia and regain access to cheap energy. That is common sense,” De Wever added, claiming that European leaders agree with him privately but “no one dares to say it out loud.”

EU foreign policy chief Kaja Kallas pushed back, telling Reuters she does not “see this appetite” behind closed doors, claiming there will be “more wars” if the bloc goes back to “business as usual.”

EU Energy Commissioner Dan Jorgensen went further, declaring the bloc would not import “as much as one molecule from Russia” in the future.
De Wever’s own foreign minister, Maxime Prevot, also distanced himself, stating that speaking of normalization with Russia sends “a signal of weakness.”

The Belgian prime minister has responded to the backlash by stating his words had been blown “out of proportion,” claiming he was not calling to “make up with Russia” now, but was speaking about normalizing relations after a Ukraine peace deal.
The controversy comes as the EU and its industry have continued to reel from the consequences of its energy divorce from Moscow. Last week, Volkswagen announced it would slash 50,000 jobs in Germany after profits nearly halved in 2025, citing soaring energy costs and mounting trade pressures.
Meanwhile, Moscow has repeatedly ridiculed Brussels’ position. Kremlin envoy Kirill Dmitriev said on Tuesday that the EU is starting to realize how its “disastrous energy decisions created enormous risks.” He forecast gas prices across the bloc would rise “at least 100% higher than previously projected,” adding that Europe will “inevitably beg for more Russian gas.”
 
And so it begins......

Belgian PM blasted for calling to normalize ties with Russia​

Bart De Wever says the EU must negotiate with Moscow to end the Ukraine war and restore access to affordable gas
Published 17 Mar, 2026 15:54 | Updated 17 Mar, 2026 15:57
Belgian PM blasted for calling to normalize ties with Russia

Belgian Prime Minister Bart De Wever. © Getty Images / Philip Reynaers; Photonews

Belgian Prime Minister Bart De Wever has sparked a firestorm of criticism after calling on the EU to normalize relations with Moscow and restore access to cheap Russian energy, as the bloc grapples with soaring prices exacerbated by the US-Israeli war on Iran.
In an interview with Belgian newspaper L’Echo published over the weekend, De Wever argued that Europe’s dual strategy of arming Kiev and squeezing Russia’s economy has failed.

“Since we are not capable of threatening [Russian President Vladimir] Putin by sending weapons to Ukraine, and we cannot choke him economically without the support of the US, there is only one method left: making a deal,” he said.

“We must normalize relations with Russia and regain access to cheap energy. That is common sense,” De Wever added, claiming that European leaders agree with him privately but “no one dares to say it out loud.”

EU foreign policy chief Kaja Kallas pushed back, telling Reuters she does not “see this appetite” behind closed doors, claiming there will be “more wars” if the bloc goes back to “business as usual.”

EU Energy Commissioner Dan Jorgensen went further, declaring the bloc would not import “as much as one molecule from Russia” in the future.
De Wever’s own foreign minister, Maxime Prevot, also distanced himself, stating that speaking of normalization with Russia sends “a signal of weakness.”

The Belgian prime minister has responded to the backlash by stating his words had been blown “out of proportion,” claiming he was not calling to “make up with Russia” now, but was speaking about normalizing relations after a Ukraine peace deal.
The controversy comes as the EU and its industry have continued to reel from the consequences of its energy divorce from Moscow. Last week, Volkswagen announced it would slash 50,000 jobs in Germany after profits nearly halved in 2025, citing soaring energy costs and mounting trade pressures.
Meanwhile, Moscow has repeatedly ridiculed Brussels’ position. Kremlin envoy Kirill Dmitriev said on Tuesday that the EU is starting to realize how its “disastrous energy decisions created enormous risks.” He forecast gas prices across the bloc would rise “at least 100% higher than previously projected,” adding that Europe will “inevitably beg for more Russian gas.”
What is most worrying here is the blockheaded response to a fellow who is actually starting to talk sense.
 
What is most worrying here is the blockheaded response to a fellow who is actually starting to talk sense.
Exactly. Consequences free bureaucracy and their politicians who can't afford to admit their total mishandling from the outset of the war.
They expected Russia to fold because its GDP is the size of Italy etc.
The doubling down has failed spectacularly.
Now the EU is screwed royally.
 
VW decided to go down the stupid EV route only to have it's bush cut by cheap Chinese shit......Serves them right.
And to make it worse/funnier they were fully in bed with the Chinese, opening EV factories in the country and generally licking chinky ass. The god awful designs we see on our roads now are, apparently, in response to Chinese tastes rather than western ideas of what makes a good looking car. It would be a tragedy should thousands lose their jobs because of management stupidity but the fate of Stellantis in particular is said to be in the hands of the gods, but this time they haven't the unions as a scapegoat.
 
Good article.
Start a war with no idea how to finish it because of total lack of awareness of your targets abilities.

 
And to make it worse/funnier they were fully in bed with the Chinese, opening EV factories in the country and generally licking chinky ass. The god awful designs we see on our roads now are, apparently, in response to Chinese tastes rather than western ideas of what makes a good looking car. It would be a tragedy should thousands lose their jobs because of management stupidity but the fate of Stellantis in particular is said to be in the hands of the gods, but this time they haven't the unions as a scapegoat.
Oh so true. What in the name of all that is holy is going with car design. These ugly lunchbox things are just hideous. Gimme an aul beetle any day. And they can be remotely switched off if ye piss off the ptb..
 
Good article.
Start a war with no idea how to finish it because of total lack of awareness of your targets abilities.

Little mention of Israels part in all of this, it's as much their war as it is Trumps. I still have this feeling that Netanyahu is incapacitated, leaving Trump to carry the can.
 
Good article.
Start a war with no idea how to finish it because of total lack of awareness of your targets abilities.


I fully expected that Iran would hit the US bases here, threaten the energy infrastructure, and "mistakenly" attack some civilian targets to scare the largly emigrant population into leaving. We basically run these countries from top to bottom and can make up 90% of the population.

You just had to put yourself in the Iranian regimes position and ask, what would you do if your very existance was under threat? How do you exert maximum pressure as quickly as possible?

I can't even fathom why Trump would then go and openly reveal his ignorance on what Iran would do, and the total lack of calculation. Hes a fucking idiot but thats....he just needs to shut the fuck up.
 
Exactly. Consequences free bureaucracy and their politicians who can't afford to admit their total mishandling from the outset of the war.
They expected Russia to fold because its GDP is the size of Italy etc.
The doubling down has failed spectacularly.
Now the EU is screwed royally.

Noone expected Russia to fold immediatly. Everyone knew it had massive stockpiles from the SU times.

Now thats all gone. Now its Italy, with nukes that may not even work anymore.

We havent forgotten your ridiculous predictions of European industrial collapse, btw.
 
Oh so true. What in the name of all that is holy is going with car design. These ugly lunchbox things are just hideous. Gimme an aul beetle any day. And they can be remotely switched off if ye piss off the ptb..
Not so long ago the complaint was that all the cars look the same because they were all chasing the lowest drag coefficient, resulting in the same shape emerging from the 'pooters calculations. That ideal is now abandoned in favour of accommodating a chunky great battery underneath the floorboards and in the interests of reducing costs the ICE and hybrid versions are required to share the same basic engineering constraints this imposes. The enlarged blunt front ends (whatever happened to concerns about pedestrians), exagerated radiator grills and oversized logos are styling cues suited to the Chinese market.
 

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