John McGuirk sacked/resigned as editor of Gript

[Diarmuid]

The good news from this is that Gript will hopefully be less Zionist now. And John will surely find a nice new gig, opposing immigration with Jewish support.

Presumably RTE and MSM will give him more prominence now and this will help further normalise voluntary remigration and mass deportations of darkies, Indo-Paks and sundry riff raff.

 

[Tiger]

Fatima Gunning - Battle of Ideas

Fatima was born in Ireland to an Irish mother and Pakistani father. She moved to Japan in her early twenties, where she discovered a love of storytelling and bringing hidden realities to light. This led her to return to Ireland in hopes of pursuing a degree in journalism. After completing an...

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Fatima was born in Ireland to an Irish mother and Pakistani father. She moved to Japan in her early twenties, where she discovered a love of storytelling and bringing hidden realities to light. This led her to return to Ireland in hopes of pursuing a degree in journalism. After completing an undergrad in journalism and visual media in Dublin, she became a reporter for Ireland’s fastest growing, and arguably only, media outlet providing news and views from a conservative standpoint: Gript Media.

Known for her outspoken nature and willingness to tell the truth in an atmosphere of media and government spin, she has done extensive reporting on the controversial topic of migration in Ireland. She is a devout Catholic with a deep appreciation for art and culture.

Should she be deported?

I know Fatima, and I’ve met John a couple of times.

I’d be 100% sure that Fatima is correct in her assertion.

John is very creepy in person. He’s a snob who thinks he can get away with anything. He drives around in a vintage jag whilst wearing a silk scarf. A bit of a tosser.

 

[The Equalizer]

I know Fatima, and I’ve met John a couple of times.

I’d be 100% sure that Fatima is correct in her assertion.

John is very creepy in person. He’s a snob who thinks he can get away with anything. He drives around in a vintage jag whilst wearing a silk scarf. A bit of a tosser.

There was nothing in the post you were replying to about John McGuirk or the "assertion", literally nothing. Do you think that you'll ever figure how to read what someone else says?

 

[Diarmuid]

I know Fatima, and I’ve met John a couple of times.

I’d be 100% sure that Fatima is correct in her assertion.

John is very creepy in person. He’s a snob who thinks he can get away with anything. He drives around in a vintage jag whilst wearing a silk scarf. A bit of a tosser.

Informative comment. A terrible pity that Fatima did not say something publicly at the time. It would have been more useful. Understandable, of course. If someone is protected by the Israelis...

I presume John is not the only such type at Gript? I wrote to them a couple of times and was shocked at the lack of reply. They use an Israeli company called Wix who block people from accessing the site.

Scarf wearing is a sign that you are so high status you do not need to do physical work.

 

[Declan]

Scarf wearing is a sign that you are so high status you do not need to do physical work.

Certainly applies to arabs and oaladtinians

 

[Wolf]

Scarf wearing is a sign that you are so high status you do not need to do physical work.

In Ireland it usually means one is a Far Left, unemployed, self-hating 'Paddystinian' and most likely a nonce.

 

[clarke-connolly]

In Ireland it usually means one is a Far Left, unemployed, self-hating 'Paddystinian' and most likely a nonce.

Very Accurate.

 

[The Equalizer]

Does anyone remember the article John wrote for Gript disavowing nationalism -

Hardline ethnonationalism is a political and intellectual dead end - Gript

Stupid.

gript.ie

And then Fatima did a sort of damage control, follow-up article -


View: https://x.com/john_mcguirk/status/1802730961768968246

“Irishness” means something, and it’s ok to say so - Gript

We need open and honest discussion on this.

gript.ie

Not only do I not think that McGuirk is a nationalist, I don't think he's a conservative or right-wing. I think he's basically a classical "colour blind", civnat liberal (and the only nationalism he knows is Zionism).

 

[Diarmuid]

In Ireland it usually means one is a Far Left, unemployed, self-hating 'Paddystinian' and most likely a nonce.

Irish who support Palestine, no matter how otherwise vile they are, have the potential to develop into decent people.

"You know the way the israelis are stealing Palestine from the Palestinians? Wake up, it is the exact same Israelis who are stealing Ireland from the Irish with all thie mass migration nonsense."

The Palestinian ambassador lady is the only foreigner or public person in the country to say the magic words: Ireland for the Irish. She is a better friend to the Irish than any of the SF/Lefty/FFGreen jewish infiltrated politicians. She is the only one who opposes Palestinian refugees coming to Ireland. There is more love for us ethnic Irish in her little finger than in the entire garda Siochana and judiciary put together.

 

[scolairebocht]

Since the situation has clarified a little it might help to summarise things here:

- He was suspended (and then subsequently resigned just before some group was going to investigate the allegations), because it was stated he favoured some outside party, including recommending that Gript take shares in a company controlled by that outside party, without disclosing a personal relationship with them. John McGurk is married but its presumed that this relates to ‘close’ ties with somebody that has never been named. There is widespread speculation of course, involving people in his wider circle like even Laura Perrin.

- Then two weeks after he was suspended a fellow journalist on Gript, Fatima Gunning, alleged he touched her leg etc, which he denies vociferously.

- Then on the day he resigned a sympathetic article was written in the Irish Times which raises ‘anti-semitism’ as a cause of his departure, accusing Niamh ni Bhriain of being unsympathetic to his pro Israeli stance.

Anyway no doubt more information will emerge in due course.

 

[Aldo3]

I know Fatima, and I’ve met John a couple of times.

I’d be 100% sure that Fatima is correct in her assertion.

John is very creepy in person. He’s a snob who thinks he can get away with anything. He drives around in a vintage jag whilst wearing a silk scarf. A bit of a tosser.

Not passing judgement on this Fatima person, but I wouldn't be so sure about that.

McGuirk denies it happened

In my line of work I come across a lot of investigations relating to workplace complaints: e.g. Person A (the complainant) accuses person B (the respondent) of inappropriate behaviour, bullying, harassment etc and an outside party is appointed to investigate. These investigations can take months, and cause a lot of stress and anxiety for those involved.

The vast majority of complaints are made by women, and are often completely trivial/spurious, clearly made in a grudging, vindictive manner - in an effort to cause distress to the person being accused.

Anyone with a bit of life experience knows that women (not all I suppose) have a very nasty streak that often expresses itself in inflicting reputational damage on those they dislike.

So, it might be wise to take a cautious approach with this one.

 

[Diarmuid]

There is widespread speculation of course, involving people in his wider circle like even Laura Perrin.

who she?
Even if the leg touching happened, it seems like a minor enough detail in the overall context.
Great to see that John got a sympathetic article in the IT .

It's very wrong that israelis run Ireland's polticians and I won't bend the knee to them. But if the israelis get on board the Remigration train, we could see it happening very quickly, with all Ireland's formerly refugee loving journos and left wingers praising it.

Imagine how wonderful it would be if one million of Ireland's two million foreigners were to be peacefully remigrated back to where they came from

 

[Haven]

Does anyone remember the article John wrote for Gript disavowing nationalism -

Hardline ethnonationalism is a political and intellectual dead end - Gript

Stupid.

gript.ie

And then Fatima did a sort of damage control, follow-up article -


View: https://x.com/john_mcguirk/status/1802730961768968246

“Irishness” means something, and it’s ok to say so - Gript

We need open and honest discussion on this.

gript.ie

Not only do I not think that McGuirk is a nationalist, I don't think he's a conservative or right-wing. I think he's basically a classical "colour blind", civnat liberal (and the only nationalism he knows is Zionism).

I never thought I'd say this, but McGuirk is right and Gunning is wrong.

"Is someone who was born here to parents from Cambodia Irish? I don’t think so. In my view that person is a Cambodian person born in Ireland. They may obtain Irish citizenship, and may take on Irish cultural attitudes, but the fact remains they don’t have Irish ancestry. "

It doesnt matter. If they were born in Ireland and brought through our school system and sporting and cultural life, they are Irish.

If I am blindfolded and I have no idea this person had Cambodian parents, and have a conversation, if I hear this person is Irish in manner, voice, cultural touchpoints and upbringing, then that person is Irish.

 

[The Equalizer]

I never thought I'd say this, but McGuirk is right and Gunning is wrong.

Well perhaps this can be a teachable moment for you. McGuirk, who you probably think of as right-wing or even far right, is infinitely closer to you on this issue than I am.

"Is someone who was born here to parents from Cambodia Irish? I don’t think so. In my view that person is a Cambodian person born in Ireland. They may obtain Irish citizenship, and may take on Irish cultural attitudes, but the fact remains they don’t have Irish ancestry. "

I don't think that Fatima mentions race at all in her article but I find that it keeps things simple. And ancestry is messy because, eventually, people of all races will have "Irish ancestry". Irish people are white, end of.

It doesnt matter. If they were born in Ireland and brought through our school system and sporting and cultural life, they are Irish.

If I am blindfolded and I have no idea this person had Cambodian parents, and have a conversation, if I hear this person is Irish in manner, voice, cultural touchpoints and upbringing, then that person is Irish.

Take the blindfold off then..

 

[Neptune]

who she?
Even if the leg touching happened, it seems like a minor enough detail in the overall context.
Great to see that John got a sympathetic article in the IT .

It's very wrong that israelis run Ireland's polticians and I won't bend the knee to them. But if the israelis get on board the Remigration train, we could see it happening very quickly, with all Ireland's formerly refugee loving journos and left wingers praising it.

Imagine how wonderful it would be if one million of Ireland's two million foreigners were to be peacefully remigrated back to where they came from

They are killing each other at a rate of 2 a month on average, if they could accelerate that it would be helpful

 

[Haven]

Well perhaps this can be a teachable moment for you. McGuirk, who you probably think of as right-wing or even far right, is infinitely closer to you on this issue than I am.


I don't think that Fatima mentions race at all in her article but I find that it keeps things simple. And ancestry is messy because, eventually, people of all races will have "Irish ancestry". Irish people are white, end of.


Take the blindfold off then..

Taking the blindfold off makes no difference to me at that point.

McGuirk is right. "Irish people are white" is a stupid hill to die on. And it doesnt help. English people were white too when they fucked us over for 100s of years. White people went to war all the time and still do...so much for that.

And what did our forefathers, fight for, back then? Our culture for one. Its why so many worked to build our Cultural Revival against British dominance.

Now we have your idea of "whiteness"which is another foreign imported concept. No thanks.

 

[The Equalizer]

Taking the blindfold off makes no difference to me at that point.

Well it should.

McGuirk is right. "Irish people are white" is a stupid hill to die on.

I'm not dying on any hill, I'm stating a fact, a highly relevant one.

As I said a few posts up, McGuirk is a "colour blind", civnat liberal, just like you are.

He may not believe that a woman can have a penis, a man can get pregnant or he may not be a militant atheist but SFW.

And it doesnt help. English people were white too when they fucked us over for 100s of years. White people went to war all the time and still do...so much for that.

"No more brother wars."

And what did our forefathers, fight for, back then? Our culture for one. Its why so many worked to build our Cultural Revival against British dominance.

Culture is downstream of race.

Secondly, neither mix.

Now we have your idea of "whiteness"which is another foreign imported concept. No thanks.

There's nothing foreign about it.

 

[The Equalizer]

I hope this is an informative infographic for you @Haven -

You're on the left, John is (arguably) third from the left, and I'm on the right.

 

[Haven]

I hope this is an informative infographic for you @Haven -

View attachment 8969

You're on the left, John is (arguably) third from the left, and I'm on the right.

I like the way McGuirk puts it:

"Nobody likes, or will ever like, the sad case in the corner attacking success. Ethnonationalism is an assault on fairness as well as logic: The idea that some layabout is “more Irish” than a successful athlete despite having contributed nothing to the nation, while the athlete he decries has contributed sporting success, strikes most people as a nonsense. A nonsense that’s the preserve of the entitled layabout, at that."

Do you have a job now, James?

 

[Diarmuid]

: The idea that some layabout is “more Irish” than a successful athlete despite having contributed nothing to the nation, while the athlete he decries has contributed sporting success,

Rashida hasn't won any gold medals. Isn't it time we took her citizenship away and sent her home? And that other darkie lady - I'm sure she's a decent person - also failed to get into the finals for the 100m relays. She can go too.

A joke for all you monoglot Bearloirs out there:

What do you call an Irishman who doesn't speak Irish?
An Englishman!!!!

Hahahaha!

 

[Diarmuid]

The leg touching allegation is quite handy for John. It is very minor and it distracts from full blown wham bam thank you mam adultery with someone else's wife, a much more serious allegation. It also distracts from the accusation that he is a snitch for the israelis, which is worse again.

 

[Haven]

Rashida hasn't won any gold medals. Isn't it time we took her citizenship away and sent her home? And that other darkie lady - I'm sure she's a decent person - also failed to get into the finals for the 100m relays. She can go too.

A joke for all you monoglot Bearloirs out there:

What do you call an Irishman who doesn't speak Irish?
An Englishman!!!!

Hahahaha!

I know, lets put her in a sprint with James.

Loser leaves the country.

We can safely lay a few yoyos on Rashida to see James off on the ferry.

 

[The Equalizer]

I like the way McGuirk puts it:

Of course you do, on this issue (and probably others), you're the same

He's worse than you though because he can have some sway on people who might otherwise know better, it's like poisoning the well or perhaps you could call it the Tommy Robinson effect. Tommy, like you and John, is a colourblind civnat liberal.

Bet you didn't know that you had so many friends in far right places, eh

"Nobody likes, or will ever like, the sad case in the corner attacking success. Ethnonationalism is an assault on fairness as well as logic: The idea that some layabout is “more Irish” than a successful athlete despite having contributed nothing to the nation, while the athlete he decries has contributed sporting success, strikes most people as a nonsense. A nonsense that’s the preserve of the entitled layabout, at that."

Do you have a job now, James?

The first thing I would ask you is why is "more Irish" in quotes? I think that's just John speaking.

Secondly, I think that you're being disingenuous again, because none of that stuff actually matters to you.

Okay, say there was a carbon copy of Adeleke, born of two Nigerian parents in Dublin, grew up in Tallaght, went to the same school, spoke with the same accent, yada, yada.. but minus the sporting achievements and was unemployed. Would you consider that person not to be Irish? Of course you wouldn't. Say there was a carbon copy of that person, who's a white Irish person, would you consider between the two of them one to be more or less Irish than the other?

 

[Hermit]

No amount of sporting success will ever make an African person Irish. No amount of laying about will make an Irishman less Irish. To suggest a layabout Irishman is less Irish than an African, for sporting achievement or for any other reason, is absurd. "Contributing to the nation" doesn't make you Irish.

 

[Haven]

Of course you do, on this issue (and probably others), you're the same

He's worse than you though because he can have some sway on people who might otherwise know better, it's like poisoning the well or perhaps you could call it the Tommy Robinson effect. Tommy, like you and John, is a colourblind civnat liberal.

Bet you didn't know that you had so many friends in far right places, eh


The first thing I would ask you is why is "more Irish" in quotes? I think that's just John speaking.

Secondly, I think that you're being disingenuous again, because none of that stuff actually matters to you.

Okay, say there was a carbon copy of Adeleke, born of two Nigerian parents in Dublin, grew up in Tallaght, went to the same school, spoke with the same accent, yada, yada.. but minus the sporting achievements and was unemployed. Would you consider that person not to be Irish? Of course you wouldn't. Say there was a carbon copy of that person, who's a white Irish person, would you consider between the two of them one to be more or less Irish than the other?

You didnt answer the question.

Do you have a job now, James?

 

[The Equalizer]

You didnt answer the question.

Do you have a job now, James?

Of what relevance is that?

This is a site for adults to have adult conversations, explore ideas..

Yes, it's true, a reasonably intelligent child could tear apart your notions easily but if you're not prepared to engage in conversation with other posters then perhaps you might consider finding a new hobby?

 

[Haven]

Of what relevance is that?

This is a site for adults to have adult conversations, explore ideas..

Yes, it's true, a reasonably intelligent child could tear apart your notions easily but if you're not prepared to engage in conversation with other posters then perhaps you might consider finding a new hobby?

You answered my question!

I'd consider both your examples to be Irish.

Would you consider a kid born and raised in Dublin, from two white Scots parents, to be Irish?

 

[Roc.]

… would you consider between the two of them one to be more or less Irish than the other?

Irish:

Extra, extra Irish:

 

[The Equalizer]

You answered my question!

I'd consider both your examples to be Irish.

Is Adeleke more Irish?

Would you consider a kid born and raised in Dublin, from two white Scots parents, to be Irish?

Blindfold on or off?

 

[Roc.]

Other point that white supremacists/nationalists might like to ruminate over.

Or indeed discuss with each other on their next organised chess tournament or "bonding" big mountain hike (seeing as forming a community aroud their shared "whiteness" is going to take a bit of work, etc.).

Q: Are Irish people descended from the Vikings who came to Ireland still to be regarded as "foreigners"?

Because remember they were called foreigners back in the day, as some of our old place names attest to, e.g. Donegal (Dun na nGall), Clonegall (Cluain na nGall), Ballydavid (Baile na nGall) etc.

Never mind the ample evidence that the builders of New Grange and so on actually were dark skinned with more African DNA than a Cheetah.

Okay I know you don't like people speaking Irish, James - but naGall means "of the foreigners".

In the foregoing, referring to a fort, a meadow and a town, respectively.

Q: Is it the case that their "whiteness" now admits them to the club?

 

[Haven]

Blindfold on or off?

Just answer the question.

 

[Hermit]

Never mind the ample evidence that the builders of New Grange and so on actually were dark skinned with more African DNA than a Cheetah.

>Africans still building mud huts in the 21st century were building Newgrange in Ireland 5,000 years ago.

Link us up with that ample evidence that the builders of Newgrange were dark skinned with African DNA. Is it based on this inbred fella? 'He was likely inbred, therefore he must have been an Egyptian pharaoh' is their reasoning. And you've extrapolated that fallacious logic to suggest the builders were African.

Newgrange tomb body belonged to royal-like male ‘born of incest’

Trinity College Dublin researchers use DNA sequencing to shed light on ancient culture

www.irishtimes.com

News - New Study Refutes Previous Claims About Neolithic Ireland - Archaeology Magazine

NEWGRANGE, IRELAND—A DNA study of human remains found within the 5,500-year-old Newgrange passage tomb caused […]

archaeology.org

 

[The Equalizer]

Just answer the question.

I will when you finish answering mine..

You said that both examples are Irish (and I'm assuming that's the two people born of Nigerian parents (I mentioned a third)) but you didn't finish answering.. So I ask you - Is Adekele more Irish?

 

[Haven]

Other point that white supremacists/nationalists might like to ruminate over.

Or indeed discuss with each other on their next organised chess tournament or "bonding" big mountain hike (seeing as forming a community aroud their shared "whiteness" is going to take a bit of work, etc.).

Q: Are Irish people descended from the Vikings who came to Ireland still to be regarded as "foreigners"?

Because remember they were called foreigners back in the day, as some of our old place names attest to, e.g. Donegal (Dun na nGall), Clonegall (Cluain na nGall), Ballydavid (Baile na nGall) etc.

Never mind the ample evidence that the builders of New Grange and so on actually were dark skinned with more African DNA than a Cheetah.

Okay I know you don't like people speaking Irish, James - but naGall means "of the foreigners".

In the foregoing, referring to a fort, a meadow and a town, respectively.

Q: Is it the case that their "whiteness" now admits them to the club?

Stonehenge: DNA reveals origin of builders

Ancestors of the people who built Stonehenge travelled west across the Mediterranean to get to Britain.

www.bbc.com

Jaysus, they look a bit brown.

 

[Haven]

I will when you finish answering mine..

You said that both examples are Irish (and I'm assuming that's the two people born of Nigerian parents (I mentioned a third)) but you didn't finish answering.. So I ask you - Is Adekele more Irish?

No, no, no.

I answered your "Irish on the scratcher" question.

I asked you a question in return.

You cant just ask me another question and make everything conditional on that.

Would you consider a kid born and raised in Dublin, from two white Scots parents, to be Irish?

Ill take up your "Adeleke more Irish?" question, if you give a straight answer.

 

[The Equalizer]

No, no, no.

I answered your "Irish on the scratcher" question.

The white girl?

I asked you a question in return.

You cant just ask me another question and make everything conditional on that.

Would you consider a kid born and raised in Dublin, from two white Scots parents, to be Irish?

Ill take up your "Adeleke more Irish?" question, if you give a straight answer.

Okay, fine. So I ask you - Is Adeleke more Irish than the other person born of Nigerian parents? Once you answer that, I will consider you to have answered my question in full, and we can move on..

 

[Haven]

The white girl?


Okay, fine. So I ask you - Is Adeleke more Irish than the other person born of Nigerian parents? Once you answer that, I will consider you to have answered my question in full, and we can move on..

Lets recap.

"Okay, say there was a carbon copy of Adeleke, born of two Nigerian parents in Dublin, grew up in Tallaght, went to the same school, spoke with the same accent, yada, yada.. but minus the sporting achievements and was unemployed. Would you consider that person not to be Irish? Of course you wouldn't. Say there was a carbon copy of that person, who's a white Irish person, would you consider between the two of them one to be more or less Irish than the other? "

I said:
"I'd consider both your examples to be Irish."

Now, would you consider a kid born and raised in Dublin, from two white Scots parents, to be Irish?

 

[Hermit]

Stonehenge: DNA reveals origin of builders

Ancestors of the people who built Stonehenge travelled west across the Mediterranean to get to Britain.

www.bbc.com

Jaysus, they look a bit brown.

Cheddar Man

Ancient 'dark-skinned' Briton Cheddar Man find may not be true

Maybe, maybe not A Briton who lived 10,000 years ago had dark brown skin and blue eyes. At least, that’s what dozens of news stories published this month – including our own – stated as fact. But one of the geneticists who performed the research says the conclusion is less certain, and according...

www.newscientist.com

 

[Haven]

Cheddar Man

Ancient 'dark-skinned' Briton Cheddar Man find may not be true

Maybe, maybe not A Briton who lived 10,000 years ago had dark brown skin and blue eyes. At least, that’s what dozens of news stories published this month – including our own – stated as fact. But one of the geneticists who performed the research says the conclusion is less certain, and according...

www.newscientist.com

"....according to others we are not even close to knowing the skin colour of any ancient human"??

Madness!

 

[Declan]

A child born in Ireland from scotish parents is Scocish. A child born from Somali parents in Ireland is Somali. And if both went home at say age 2, nobody would ever refer to them again as Irish . It is not rocket science.


If an Irish couple went to Somalia, working for the UN for example. Nobody would say that child was Somali, ever