Abortion: Killing babies for fun, profit, spite and spiritual growth

... There was a deliberate campaign to obfuscate the debate as centered on medical emergencies.
I wasn't referring to "medical emergencies".

I was referring to the countless human and personal tragedies that occurred in the status quo we experienced under the regime of the bishops.

A status quo remember that did not only engender countless personal tragedies in the terms I put in my poem above. Also remembering the ~9K children who “died” in Mother & Baby Homes, the unwed mothers hidden away from society, the 50K babies taken away from their mothers as young as 12-years old, up until 1972 girls as young as 12 could be married, etc.

The above measured out in some type of objective terms in how say we not long ago paid out €800M to 34K survivors of church-run mother and baby homes (not enough). Or how we already paid out €1.5B euro to compensate 15K victims of child sexual abuse in Irish institutions etc.

That was what I was referring to in my post, if it wasn't obvious.

But if you're referring to the debate that occurred during the repeal campaign, the primary "medical" argument was about the best way to work through getting pregnant was to sit down with your GP and work on it that way, not be at the mercy of uninformed opinion regarding the personal and medical circumstances in each individual case.

The legislation set out that for abortions to be performed legally in the country, the involvement of a doctor is strictly required - you must have an initial consultation with an Irish-registered doctor, a doctor must medically certify that the pregnancy is within the legal time limits before a termination can occur, etc.

Those were the arguments. I note you are still unable to deal with the actual arguments and instead have to invent your opponents' arguments, and speak for them, inevitably making them out to be "baby killers" and all the other derogatory stuff.

It's no wonder the 'Yes' campaign won in a landslide. Anyone with a brain would vote against anything the likes of you might say, if for no other reason.
 
Did you vote for it?
I have never voted. A vote is an endorsement of the system. I would never endorse the system as it is. And particularly in that referendum I could never vote considering the way the debate was left. I thought both sides were monstrous. There was no movement to some type of agreement, where each side could somehow see something of the other's perspective. I don't know who I blame more the right or the left. In truth I think you are both as bad as each other.
 
I wasn't referring to "medical emergencies".

I was referring to the countless human and personal tragedies that occurred in the status quo we experienced under the regime of the bishops.

The regime wasmostly FF, FG and the Labour Party. Plus Noel Brown and Sean McBride for a few years. If there is any compo to be paid, they should pay their share, dontcha think?
A status quo remember that did not only engender countless personal tragedies in the terms I put in my poem above. Also remembering the ~9K children who “died” in Mother & Baby Homes,
Many more died outside the homes. How many died in your family???

the unwed mothers hidden away from society,
Many weren't.

the 50K babies taken away from their mothers as young as 12-years old, up until 1972 girls as young as 12 could be married, etc.
If you can have an abortion at 12, what's the problem with getting married at 12?

The above measured out in some type of objective terms in how say we not long ago paid out €800M to 34K survivors of church-run mother and baby homes (not enough). Or how we already paid out €1.5B euro to compensate 15K victims of child sexual abuse in Irish institutions etc.
How much should we pay to the children who had their genitals removed as trans gender care?
Any word on all the cute little refugee children missing from state care since the abortion referendum? Must be hundreds at this stage? No tears for them. I take it? Touchy subject, of course. Gda Deirdre Finn investigated and they found her dead.

That was what I was referring to in my post, if it wasn't obvious.

But if you're referring to the debate that occurred during the repeal campaign, the primary "medical" argument was about the best way to work through getting pregnant was to sit down with your GP and work on it that way, not be at the mercy of uninformed opinion regarding the personal and medical circumstances in each individual case.
You do accept that 99% of modern Irish abortions are consensual recreational sex of healthy babies? Or don't you?

The legislation set out that for abortions to be performed legally in the country, the involvement of a doctor is strictly required - you must have an initial consultation with an Irish-registered doctor, a doctor must medically certify that the pregnancy is within the legal time limits before a termination can occur, etc.
It's legal to abort up to nine months if it's an emergency. And it's legal to sell the body parts - laterabortions give higher value body parts.

Those were the arguments. I note you are still unable to deal with the actual arguments and instead have to invent your opponents' arguments, and speak for them, inevitably making them out to be "baby killers" and all the other derogatory stuff.
Did you watch the video, bro? That Whitmore Brennan lady, the TDs sister is baosting that she killed her "baby". Her word.

It's no wonder the 'Yes' campaign won in a landslide.
It was rigged.

Anyone with a brain would vote against anything the likes of you might say, if for no other reason.
Your words imply that you voted for in-womb-baby-killing. But perhaps I am reading too much into it.
 
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"But if you're referring to the debate that occurred during the repeal campaign, the primary "medical" argument was about the best way to work through getting pregnant was to sit down with your GP and work on it that way, not be at the mercy of uninformed opinion regarding the personal and medical circumstances in each individual case."

That's not an argument for why we should legalise state funded abortion for healthy babies conceived through consensual - if careless sex..

That's just an argument for the most convenient way to do it.

Did you watch the video?
Did you dance the abortion jig at Dublin castle?
Do you weep for the missing refugee children?

Thank you for your comedy contribution. You are the bravest male abortion enthusiast in all of Ireland. Are you ready to speak IRL at a public meeting???

No other abortion enthusiast male will do so. Will you?
 
Anyone with a brain would vote against anything the likes of you might say, if for no other reason.
But you said you didn't vote?
Do you have a brain?

That's the big problem with lying: you have to remember what lies you told :)
 
Come on @Haven. let's hear your comedy take on in-womb-baby-killing? You were full of it on the Tuam babies thread but the silence of the grave here.

Did you dance the abortion jig?
Did you cheer the result?
Did you smile with delight as the abortionists' instrument advanced on the tiny struggling baby?

It's good to share. Tell us how you felt.
 
These two (Lilly Allen and some other thramp) have had 10 abortions between them and they think their partner paying for them is romantic.



View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RlyDQ-nfjy4?feature=share

The Extreme Narcissism of People like this is off the Scale ! ! !

Narcissism has been let run rife in recent times ! ! !

I think, it may have something to do with People having very small families ( maybe just one or two Children )

When People were having Bigger Families = = Brothers and Sisters would soon knock that Narcissism out of you ! ! !

Brothers and Sisters would soon make it plain and simple to you that ~ ~ They were every bit as important as you ( if not more important , lol ) and " Teach " reality to the Narcissists ! ! !

Edit; I suppose the best of parents would also stop Narcissism running wild in their Children as well ! !
 
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The Extreme Narcissism of People like this is off the Scale ! ! !

Narcissism has been let run rife in recent times ! ! !

I think, it may have something to do with People having very small families ( maybe just one or two Children )

When People were having Bigger Families = = Brothers and Sisters would soon knock that Narcissism out of you ! ! !

Brothers and Sisters would soon make it plain and simple to you that ~ ~ They were every bit as important as you ( if not more important , lol ) and " Teach " reality to the Narcissists ! ! !

Edit; I suppose the best of parents would also stop Narcissism running wild in their Children as well ! !
There might be something in that, but two of the most narcissistic kids I've known were brother and sister. Perhaps families have to reach a critical size, or maybe the parents are just as bad!
 
There might be something in that, but two of the most narcissistic kids I've known were brother and sister. Perhaps families have to reach a critical size, or maybe the parents are just as bad!
Bad Parents could have contributed ( big-time ) to that.

Some Parents ( and Teachers ) want to be friends with their Children = = That is crazy.

A Parent and a Friend should be two completely different roles ! !
 
Please make sure you have some abortion content in posts on this thread. Go raibh maith agaibh.
 
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@Haven

Would you agree with the image above? 👆

Of course you do.
 
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Bad Parents could have contributed ( big-time ) to that.

Some Parents ( and Teachers ) want to friends with their Children = = That is crazy.

A Parent and a Friend should be two completely different roles ! !

Bad Parents could have contributed ( big-time ) to that.

Some Parents ( and Teachers ) want to be friends with their Children = = That is crazy.

A Parent and a Friend should be two completely different roles ! !
The role of parents is rather complex and changes considerably as the children grow. Been there, done that, did we get it right? Mostly, I think looking at them now, but there is always room for improvement.
 
Abortions due to misdiagnosed fatal foetal abnormalities:


Several studies show that the false-positive rate for fetal ultrasounds is around 8.8%, while the rate of diagnostic misclassification is approximately 9.2%, but a New York Times article put those rates closer to ten times those numbers for genetic testing.
 
Babies who somehow manage to survive abortion are not given medical care and thus die.

 
Abortions due to misdiagnosed fatal foetal abnormalities:

Eolas scanruil ach iontach! GRMA.

Terrifying but excellent contribution. If the NYT article is correct, the vast majority of genetic tests on babies in the womb are wrong.

That Whitmore Brennan lady - sister of Whitmore Soc Dem TD - who boasted about killing her "baby" because the test told her it was defective should take a court case. Probably the baby was perfectly healthy. I think her case was given lavish MSM publicity to condition the public into accepting that babies in the womb are actually babies and that it is perfectly OK to kill them if the doc tells you they are in some way defective. After killing your baby, you are entitled to go on MSM and demand sympathy.

She went to England to kill her baby and insisted in bringing the dead baby back home on the ferry, to honour him with an elaborate funeral service. The abortionistas in England weren't impressed, did not help her package the dead baby and rudely suggested she buy some bags of frozen peas to stop the baby's body rotting. Which she did.

I can't remember the reason she gave for not killing her baby in the Emerald Isle. If one doctor certifies there is an emergency, the law allows you to kill the baby up to nine months or even longer - until the entire body has emerged from the birth canal.
 
Babies who somehow manage to survive abortion are not given medical care and thus die.

I had a far left dyke on another site tell me that those deaths weren't the result of abortion. I had to point out to her that that's exactly what the figure is derived from.
 
If it bleeds it leads, the MSM say.

Killing babies is awful stuff but it is great click bait: One thousand views in just a few days!

I repeat my invite to pro-abortionist men like Haven and Roc to explain why they are so enthusiastic about abortion. And extend the invitation to all the men of Ireland. Hundreds of thousands of you guys, supposedly, voted for it, but do you regret it now?

Some thoughts on banning abortion again:

1. Court case. The referendum didn't make abortion legal. It just said the Oireachtas could pass a law to regulate "the termination of pregnancy". A court case could argue that once the baby has a heart beat and brain waves (within 6 weeks, IIRC) the baby is a citizen and no longer just a part of the pregnancy. Irish judges are evil baby killing enthusiasts so this is unlikely.

2. New law. A Dail with a majority of non-enthusiasts for killing babies could simply pass a law. With the exception of strictly defined medical cases, termination of pregnancy could be banned and punishable by law.But the Oireachtas is stuffed with blood drinking baby killing enthusiasts.

3. New referendum. A baby killing Dail is unlikely to allow a pro-life referendum. Elecetions are massively, blatantly and outrageously rigged in thsi country, and elsewhere.

To stop abortion in Ireland we need first to clean up the election system.

4. Culture change. We need to create a culture of mockery about the abortionista baby killing industry. The weakest links in abortionista culture are the men. Let's mock the baby killing men, like, for example, Haven and Roc.
 
You don't think that Catholics support abortion, I know plenty who do (spare me no true Scotsman)
Great comment. I know there's a "catholics for choice" group in the US. And the current and former Popes effectively reward/tolerate pro-abortion parishoners.

Can you provide names of Taig baby-killing enthusiasts?
Can you contact them privately and ask them would they be prepared to do an interview with mise? Total discretion assured, if required. In particular I'm looking to talk to male baby killing enthusiasts. :)
 
Great comment. I know there's a "catholics for choice" group in the US. And the current and former Popes effectively reward/tolerate pro-abortion parishoners.

Can you provide names of Taig baby-killing enthusiasts?
Can you contact them privately and ask them would they be prepared to do an interview with mise? Total discretion assured, if required. In particular I'm looking to talk to male baby killing enthusiasts. :)
I remember discussing it with my brother-in-law, around the time of the referendum, after it passed. I remember it well, they live in London and we spend a lot of time in their very nice garden when I visit.

A lovely summers day, and we got to talking about it and he really wasn't against it at all.

I would consider my b-i-l to be quite devout. My sister isn't religious but her husband insisted that their daughter was to be brought up in the Catholic faith. The two of them, my niece and her father, would go to mass together and my sister would stay at home, no problem. But he wasn't against abortion (I was).
 
Any reasons given?ladies' choice, presumably? Who am I to judge sort of thing?
Well, I recall during our discussion he pointed next door. People I've never met and next door is about ten or twenty feet away :) but they had a profoundly disabled child who I think was then an adult. So yes, he gave a "hard case" but I honestly didn't get any vibes off him that he was fundamentally against abortion.
 
No sign of @Haven or @Roc??? No two braver boyos when slipping abortion pills to the sex partner and kicking elderly Catholic priests but the biggest cowards in the country when it comes to explaining why they love in-womb-baby-killing so much.

Did yiz dance the abortion jig at the Castle, boys? Did yiz smile with delight when the abortionists ripped the tiny wee baby apart limb from limb? Did you smirk when your sex partner puked her guts up after taking the abortion pills?

Don't be shy. Stand your ground.

Don't you know there's a culture war on?
 
If it bleeds it leads, the MSM say.

Killing babies is awful stuff but it is great click bait: One thousand views in just a few days!

I repeat my invite to pro-abortionist men like Haven and Roc to explain why they are so enthusiastic about abortion. And extend the invitation to all the men of Ireland. Hundreds of thousands of you guys, supposedly, voted for it, but do you regret it now?

Some thoughts on banning abortion again:

1. Court case. The referendum didn't make abortion legal. It just said the Oireachtas could pass a law to regulate "the termination of pregnancy". A court case could argue that once the baby has a heart beat and brain waves (within 6 weeks, IIRC) the baby is a citizen and no longer just a part of the pregnancy. Irish judges are evil baby killing enthusiasts so this is unlikely.

2. New law. A Dail with a majority of non-enthusiasts for killing babies could simply pass a law. With the exception of strictly defined medical cases, termination of pregnancy could be banned and punishable by law.But the Oireachtas is stuffed with blood drinking baby killing enthusiasts.

3. New referendum. A baby killing Dail is unlikely to allow a pro-life referendum. Elecetions are massively, blatantly and outrageously rigged in thsi country, and elsewhere.

To stop abortion in Ireland we need first to clean up the election system.

4. Culture change. We need to create a culture of mockery about the abortionista baby killing industry. The weakest links in abortionista culture are the men. Let's mock the baby killing men, like, for example, Haven and Roc.
Mocking two convinced people on here is neither here or there.
 
There is not one pro-abortion man in all of Ireland who will debate this in public.

Not one.

Can anyone find one man brave enough to do it?
 
It is true that they say they want to debate.

They lie, like their father the devil.

They don't want to debate.

They are cowards.
 
It is true that they say they want to debate.

They lie, like their father the devil.

They don't want to debate.

They are cowards.
to debate is to put in print their plan for us and then you have to explain who drew up this plan .
why was it drawn up --who benefits and why .
when you listen to black people with more than 2 braincells like the whites with more than 2 braincells they both NOTICE things ---they both NOTICE the same things and have the same questions .
in the case of black people the most couragous of their leaders shout who is killing us --who are the biggest killers of the black man --- we the black man who have had 14 MILLION abortions in the past year and this figure is an avarage .
why have we blacks murdered 14 million -- what madness has overtaken us to do such a thing .
other racial groups do not do this why do we do it --what is wrong with us .
why is the higest rate of males abandoning their family BLACK .
why do single black mothers have children by different fathers which further destroys the family unit and denies the young children the influence of a man in their lives to stabilize it especially when teenagers .
Malcolm X was very suspicious of the help he received and had the brains to examine why one racial group """ ADOPTED""" the black freedom movement
and he asked just before his public excution by paid assassins --
WHY DO YOU HELP US FIGHT--- AT A TIME OF YOUR CHOOSING------------ IN A PLACE OF YOUR CHOOSING--- AGAINST AN ENEMY OF YOUR CHOOSING .
AND YET YOU WILL NOT SHOW US HOW TO BE JEWS --HOW TO MAKE MONEY LIKE JEWS --HOW TO GET POLITICAL INFLUENCE LIKE JEWS .
YOU DONT LET US GAMBLE IN YOUR GAMBLING JOINTS IN ATLANTIC CITY BUT YOU HELP US FIGHT --WHY WONT YOU SHOW US HOW TO BE JEWS .
It suits somebody to have the black population leaderless rudderless without a family --without hope -without the family discipline structure required for a third level education --- and abortion abortion abortion enough abortion to completely fuck up anyone mind and house train them to be a human cockroach incapable of living the life of a human being -- a self enrolling slave in the system designed to rob them of anything they will ever possess .
this shit show is being planned here also --and is being implemented as we type and read this page --
to blend us into this abortion of our irishness our society cohesion and our societal will to overcome the slavemasters .
the easiest thing to do is to smile and say i am going to empower you as an individual and give all the rights you could wish and we will start with your body --you can change gender you can have as many abortions as you wish -- every right granted to you robs the irish society of its power and co hesion and it is transformed from a mighty force for good,
to an evil concept which we are told destroys the FREEDOM TO BE AN ALL POWERFUL INDIVIDUAL .
Nobody will debate anyone who knows who pays the billions for what is called THIS JUST SOCIETY.
 
My posts are suggesting that Narcissistic Women are probably way over-represented in the ~ Having Abortions ( possible even multiple Abortions ) numbers.
Many abortions in the UK are second/third time abortions. In other words, the woman has already aborted a child/children previously - which contradicts the lie that every abortion is an agonising decision that no woman takes lightly.

It's basically a form of contraception (which is why so many selfish men support it).

The abortionists realise, deep down, that it's such a sick practice that they have to justify their support for it in lies, appeals to emotion, emotional blackmail, abuse of language ("fetus" etc).

Anyone who's held a baby knows instinctively that what you're holding is something precious; something that has developed in a beautiful way- and didn't suddenly become a baby at 24 weeks.

During the referendum campaign I realised quite early on that there was a very clear distinction between the the two sides - illustrated starkly by the large marches that took place in Dublin city centre.

The pro-life march consisted of families mainly. The people were smiling, pleasant, warm. There was a positive, warm energy about the gathering.

In contrast, the pro-abortion march was populated by individuals who looked like something out of a dystopian novel. The women looked like men; the men looked like women. They were all extremely ugly. Their was a twisted, snarling hatred in their faces. No warmth.

I think you have to be somewhat disturbed to support abortion.

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to debate is to put in print their plan for us and then you have to explain who drew up this plan .
why was it drawn up --who benefits and why .
when you listen to black people with more than 2 braincells like the whites with more than 2 braincells they both NOTICE things --
Malcolm X was very suspicious of the help he received

Dynamite info.... Straight to the point...Go raibh mile maith agat
 
It's basically a form of contraception (which is why so many selfish men support it).
That's an excellent adjective for Men For Abortion - selfish.

Stupid, cowardly and pure evil can also apply.

No wonder there is not one man in all of Ireland who will debate this publicly and openly. A few debated it under very, very,very controlled circumstances at the time but no man in Ireland will do it in an open debate.

Pro-abortion men are selfish, stupid or evil cowards.

Any of you baby killing enthusiast males care to dispute this?

Buiochas mor to Aldo and BFH for their excellent contributions.
 
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I took part in the March for Life rally 2 years ago and about 20-30 of the ugliest nutters you could imagine organised a (pathetic) counter protest outside the GPO. Some of the ugliest women decided to go topless for reasons only they know. They looked and acted demented.
 
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I took part in the March for Life rally 2 years ago and about 20-30 of the ugliest nutters you could imagine organised a (pathetic) counter protest outside the GPO. Some of the ugliest women decided to go topless for reasons only they know. They looked and acted demented.
Nothing like a few tities on the loose to get the camera boys of the media all excited.
 

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