THE GREATEST LIES EVER TOLD .

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We / most of us are reasonably well read and over time we have encountered famous lies which served mainly the interests of very wealthy people as the greater the lie the greater the income from it .
famous lies were the gulf of Tonkien incident where north Vietnamese were stated to have attacked USA navy ships and this sparked the Vietnam war which killed countless Vietnamese and many american drafted boys .
this was repeated again for the Iraq war and most of the 911 commissioners have now resigned in disgust at what happened in the Israeli controlled commission led by rabbi dov sakhiem .
i am entering my entry which is the oft quoted lie """ THE PEACE WHICH PASSETH ALL UNDERSTANDING"" this quotation is the stripped version of the lie by the usual suspects who---- have taken reference to god and jesus christ out of it as they worship the Antichrist and when you see how prevalent this stripped version is you realize the vast majority of mainstream media follows STYLE RULES which obliterate any and every reference to Christianity.
the full version of this lie is ----The bible Philippians 4-7
AND THE PEACE OF GOD WHICH PASSES ALL UNDERSTANDING WILL GUARD YOUR HEARTS AND MINDS IN CHRIST JESUS .

this lie is exposed by the words of Christ when being questioned before his death by ---
NEITHER SHALL THEY SAY --- LO HERE OR LO THERE --FOR BEHOLD THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS WITHIN YOU Luke 17-21
and also , COR 16-17
DO YOU NOT KNOW YOU ARE THE TEMPLE OF GOD AND THE SPIRIT OF GOD DWELLS IN YOU .
THE TEMPLE OF GOD IS HOLY AND THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE . cor 16-17
nothing vague or mixed up about that it states it clear as a bell .
my lie allegation is that the quotation states the peace of god passeth all understanding -
-Christ disagrees and disagrees many times and allows you to know without the fear or ignorance which is deliberately used against you,
to prevent you coming to a understanding of god within and his peace which they falsely state is beyond all understanding .
Christ meditated in the desert for 40 days and MERGED WITH GOD we are told by him when he said --
STILL YOUR MIND IN ME AND WITHOUT A DOUBT YOU WILL BE UNITED WITH ME FOREVER .
not much bullshit there about passing all understanding which is lies meant to prevent you doing what Christ says anyone can do and should do .
this is echoed in various texts around the world where people of different traditions all agree that god is within and he most definitely is not beyond understanding by the ordinary man .
IN THE STILLNESS OF YOUR MIND YOU WILL KNOW FIRST HAND YOU ARE UTTERLY NON SEPARATE FROM GOD .

THE SOURCE OF ALL EXISTENCE IS WHO YOU TRULY ARE .
THIS INNER DIVINITY IS THE ULTIMATE PURPOSE OF HUMAN LIFE .
THAT THOU ART chandoga Upanishad---THE INDIVIDUAL AND THE ULTIMATE UNIVERSAL REALITY ARE ONE .
Most people spend their lifetime knowing the truth -suspecting the truth but endure the lies as the lies are so frequently told -but when its explained as i have tried to do then it may give you some release from the lies.
 
Always interesting Aul Lad.

Although I have a slight disagreement.

When people said the peace of God which passeth all understanding I don't think they meant for people not to be able to understand.

What that quote means is that there is a peace which the intellectual mind can't make sense of. For example there have been many instances when people found themselves in a dire situation, lets say a Doctor has just told them they've got a terminal diagnosis and only have weeks to live.

In such circumstances the mind would see that as catastrophic and totally freak out. However many folk have spoken about this calm almost blissful feeling coming over them despite their very existence being threatened. They become aware that there really is no death and that only the form (the body) will dissolve but the energy / chi / spirit / soul / anam lives forever.

I believe that's what the peace of God that passeth all understanding means Sir. :)
 
Always interesting Aul Lad.

Although I have a slight disagreement.

When people said the peace of God which passeth all understanding I don't think they meant for people not to be able to understand.

What that quote means is that there is a peace which the intellectual mind can't make sense of. For example there have been many instances when people found themselves in a dire situation, lets say a Doctor has just told them they've got a terminal diagnosis and only have weeks to live.

In such circumstances the mind would see that as catastrophic and totally freak out. However many folk have spoken about this calm almost blissful feeling coming over them despite their very existence being threatened. They become aware that there really is no death and that only the form (the body) will dissolve but the energy / chi / spirit / soul / anam lives forever.

I believe that's what the peace of God that passeth all understanding means Sir. :)
Myles there is great truth in what you say .
read your own post and the very last line is the truth you seek and it is in your own words that they ""COME TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEIR SOUL THEIR SPIRIT THEIR CONSCIOUSNESS is one with god and is everlasting .
however you also tell the truth that they intellectually cant figure this out generally until a life changing experience forces them to look WITHIN for the first time in their lives and within they find the truth finally.
 
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Go raibh maith agat! An rud is ciallmhara a bfhaca me le fada :)
thank you for your kindness and encouragement.
i present the story of the CATHARS .
these were a people who did not believe in the lies of the catholic church and it cost them dear .
they lost their homes and property and lands and castles and over a million of them were murdered to exterminate their beliefs .
on one day alone in JULY 1209 20,000 people ,
the population of the city of Beziers were exterminated -each man woman and child obliterated .
a soldier asked the papal legate what is he to do with the thousands of catholics in the city back came the famous reply .
KILL THEM ALL--- GOD WILL RECOGNIZE HIS OWN.
The pope used an army to exterminate them and invented his own unpaid army to do this terrible deed --by the fascinating technique of approaching the 2nd sons of the nobility who he knew were wasters usually and it burned in their breast they would not inherit the lands and titles which they naturally dreamt about 24/7 and he put a proposition that if these lower ranked nobles formed their own small armies he would allow them to execute over a million people and take their vast lands /estates/ wealth/houses /titles and the pope would then christen this evil venture a holy war and dispense knighthoods and absolution for the genocide and more to each soldier and would recognize them as the new owners of the murdered peoples estates south of Carcassonne in southern france .
what was all this about says you -- it was the biggest threat the church had experienced in 1200 years .
and the viciousness tells you it was about money firstly and influence/control/ownership of the subservient laity secondly.
THE Cathars believed in DUALISM the belief the universe was ruled by two opposing forces .
the good god of SPIRIT AND LIGHT who was kind -loving and compassionate and peaceful and entirely concerned with the spiritual world .
and his opposite the god of the commercial evil world only concerned with the hoarding of other peoples wealth -- this naturally included the highly commercial corrupt and controlling catholic church which sold everything to the highest bidder regardless of character or evil practiced.
the cathars had their priests the PERFECTI who numbered approx 50% of their number and because women could be a perfecti and they preached in french to the ordinary --they were understood and loved for their visible and true adherence to vows of poverty and celibacy and the only religion which would allow the women to be priests was the Cathars and naturally thousands of women flocked to it .
they discarded the traditional sacraments of the catholic church which were organised to rob the ordinary of everything they possessed and the cathars had only one sacrament THE CONSOLAMENTUM,
a ritual baptism of holy spirit and fire -- and crucially THEY BELIEVED AN ORDINARY MAN COULD KNOW GOD PERSONALLY AND THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND ITS POPE AND STRUCTURE WERE NOT THEREFORE REQUIRED .
This understanding took hold in southern france and northern italy and the religion spread like wildfire amongst the people and crucially the nobles who recognised the utter honesty and holiness of the perfecti who depended on the public for their food each day and who were revered for their true christianity as opposed to the latin speaking madmen of the catholic church which was only concerned with stealing what ever wealth they could .
 
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Go raibh maith agat! An rud is ciallmhara a bfhaca me le fada :)
PART 2 EXTERMINATED CATHARS OF SOUTHERN FRANCE .
it all ended by 1300 and all their texts were destroyed and any hint of their existance was destroyed totally to erase the memory of a true christian church loved by all who learned of its ways and core belief that THE SACRED SOURCE COULD BE ACCESSED BY ANYONE WITHOUT THE NEED FOR A PRIEST .
They were exterminated however something in you is allowing you to read this .
what they believed seeded the reformation and the quakers and the consciousness movement and many other movements were born from their ghostly and holy cries as they were exterminated--something was left behind and here we are talking about them today THANK GOD .
their genocide only helped to re refine our understanding of consciousness /god and was not wasted .
and each genocide of the awakening of god amongst the people throughout time only serves to empower others with greater powers as time passes .
many thousands were offered their lives if they would deny what they knew to be true and they ALL HAD TO BE DESTROYED AS THEY WOULD NOT DENY THE GOD THEY NOW LEARNED WAS WITHIN .
And since they had access to the serene sacred god ----the architure of the church was then totally unessaccry .
it was the realisation that this belief in true christianity based on a true knowledge of god would make the church wither away in a very short time as it was not required by the ordinary to worship god ,
and the obvious holiness and piety and poverty and humility of the Perfecti was a direct threat to the institutional church and was the greatest threat they ever faced in their existence .
if a peasant could know a kind loving god through his own efforts then their catholic church/existence was not required .
the dominican friars were the management team which exterminated them .
 
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and the obvious holiness and piety and poverty and humility of the Perfecti was a direct threat to the institutional church and was the greatest threat they ever faced in their existence .
if a peasant could know a kind loving god through his own efforts then their catholic church/existence was not required .
the dominican friars were the management team which exterminated them .
This subject is not a common one and to help you understand a little of the scale of what happened ----
France in the second world war we are told by google ----an estimated 600,000 french died this is composed of 200,000 troops and 400,000 civilians .
in this genocide of the cathars over 1 million died ,
all because THEIR true and humble and sincere vision of christianity was seen as a threat by the comically named POPE INNOCENT THE THIRD .
Exterminating more than Hitler and his huge mechanised Wermacht army and Lutwaffe in a world war is no small event --however you are never told what this was about --it is left to nutters like yours truly to ask you--
WHAT IS THIS MAD SHIT --why did this enormous event take place .
why were christians who were ---sincere vows of poverty taken ---vows of celibacy taken-- followers literally of christ who were also vegetarians to avoid killing even an animal ,
such a deadly threat to the pope,
that he would order a fatwah or crusade to kill every man woman and child and damm himself to hell in his own religion by doing so .
he must have known that some mad irishmen would read of this and try and puzzle it out on sarsfields later to see
"" what is this catholic church concerned with""
and has it anything remotely to do with christ at all ---if it is capable of a million or more genocide for merely living the life of christ.
as he defined it .
maybe that's it -- maybe christ is the problem --maybe that's who got them killed .
christ said god lives within you -- he never said he lives in the vatican in rome --and that's the problem -- the catholic church holds the god franchise and it ruthlessly exterminates any commercial competitor .
i was once in St Thomas hospital in london in 1976 with a collapsed lung and an east londoner came around with her clipboard and only for her appalling use of the english language i would never have defined my religion .
AAAAA YUUUUU AAAAAA CCCEEE -- to my ear she wanted to know something about my arse and i puzzled and stated --no collapsed lung pneumothorax see here on the green wristband its written ----
NUUUOOO
AAA YUUU AAACCEE --AAA YYUU OMAAN KAATHLIK .
AAA i said you want to know am i Roman Catholic -- and she nodded as if I were the worst alzheimer's patient she had ever met
--YESS YESS AAA YUU AAA CEE .
I replied when i paused for a moment and she saw the confusion on my face as i determined for the first time in my life that i was not a roman anything i had never been to rome --i did not know any romans and the romans had never been kind to me and given me anything -- i said no i am not roman ,
what we will do is this---- whoever is on duty or nearby at the time of me needing spiritual help will do --SURPRISE ME !! and thanks .
she went all the way to the bottom of her chart and with a flourish ticked some box i would say normally reserved for heretics and nutters and left the room with a flashing eyes and a mumbled curse for my good health .
this odd definition of my official religious status happened by accident and it prompted me to re examine what the fuck was i --had i any belief in anything was i even intellectually -morally capable of believing anything --why did the whole thing give me a headache trying to puzzle out 2 decades of indoctrination and repeated chanting in my local madrassana .
my dilemma was solved shortly after --again in london by accident i found my self in front of a telly and a sarcastic BBC interviewer was taunting the great cardinal Basil Hume during the election of a new pope and the obvious known that he would never be elected pope being english .
MY LORD CARDINAL -""HAVE YOU ANY AMBITION"" and the earth shattering reply came which floored and silenced the obnoxious BBC reporter ,
""" I HAVE AN AMBITION TO DIE A CHRISTIAN "" and it was therefore now known that you could be a PRINCE OF THE CHURCH A CARDINAL AND EVEN POPE AND NOT BE A CHRISTIAN .
this great reply has guided me since and i no longer had a headache trying to figure things out once i knew that christianity and the decades of indoctrination /LIES by the catholic church were totally separate from christianity and these lies served only rome and not christ or Ireland or his christians.
the ironic thing was had the semi literate englishwoman with the clipboard ask me was i an irish catholic i would have said yes and that would have been the end of the matter .
christ works in mysterious ways to expose the lies and guide you to the truth .
 

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