How do you feel about life right now ?

Demoralisation for the loss of our countries but buoyed by the certainty that western liberalism is in its death throes.
Out of all the potential future outcomes, out of all the possible timelines, there is a zero percent chance that (white) liberalism survives into the future. It is absolutely doomed without question so at least we have that.
 
Jay Homer Simpson said:
I feel demoralized
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Cheer up! Bad and all as things are, they could be a thousand times worse. The bastards want us demoralized. So don't be.

Get some exercise in the fresh air. Eat well. A prayer to your brand of God.

Get in contact with the bonefire makers of Ulster and ask them if they can find space for some Irish politicos you'd like to see burned on top of their towering fires :)
 
Talking to the lady who fixes my back recently who noted that she has never known so much misery and depression amongst her clientele as she has this year. There is no joy in Ireland now, whether its because of immigration or cost of living or whatever, nobody has any cheer in them.
 
Mad as Fish said:
Talking to the lady who fixes my back recently who noted that she has never known so much misery and depression amongst her clientele as she has this year. There is no joy in Ireland now, whether its because of immigration or cost of living or whatever, nobody has any cheer in them.
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Best thing to do there is to fully turn off all main stream media and listen to a bit of music instead.
 
Another factor is the realisation that the government doesn't give a flying feck for the Irish, it's not on the side of the electorate, it's simply implementing policies decided elsewhere by God knows who. The effect on people's moods is real, were the soviets or Chinese ever accused of being over jocular?
 
Mad as Fish said:
Another factor is the realisation that the government doesn't give a flying feck for the Irish, it's not on the side of the electorate, it's simply implementing policies decided elsewhere by God knows who. The effect on people's moods is real, were the soviets or Chinese ever accused of being over jocular?
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The only Powers that be that could possibly drive all these policies has the be, Blackrock / Vanguard / State Street / And Similar ! ! !

Who else, could make so many politicians, in so many Countries make the same policies ? !

I can't see any other entities that would have the Power to do this !
 
clarke-connolly said:
The only Powers that be that could possibly drive all these policies has the be, Blackrock / Vanguard / State Street / And Similar ! ! !

Who else, could make so many politicians, in so many Countries make the same policies ? !

I can't see any other entities that would have the Power to do this !
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This group is what I'd refer to as the globalists, but there are also the Zionists and the Chinese, how they compete or cooperate on world domination decides what is to happen next, governments have no say in it that's for sure.
 
Declan said:
You might have been 2 years ago but now there is hope and excitement. Ireland is like a drug addict, it has to hit bottom.


See the percentages FF got in the two recent elections, the next election is curtains for tem and it will be sooner than people think
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The entire mechanism of politics is a completely captured entity. There is zero viable alternatives to mainstream parties.

Ireland will not be rescued or restored at the ballot box.
 
It could, it there were viable candidates. But people latch on to the likes of Steenson and they will never get off.
 
Blackpilled. Very blackpilled. Which is exactly how they want us. Trying to stay off d'webs and be in sunshine and flowers. Living healthily etc. Problem is I know what I know.
Only today we buried a lovely neighbour, died miserably from the big c. Not old, not young. Shudda been here another quarter century. And l met not one person at her funeral who had the courage to put 2 and 2 together.
This is what the lightlords mean by plausible deniability. Nothing caused anything.
Keep on keeping on. We will be needed I think in due course.
 
Jay Homer Simpson said:
Here is an example of the sort of thing making me feel demoralized, and this example is at the lower end of the scale so to speak
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Her party, despite being the lead opposition party during a housing/immigration crisis, is still repulsive to the nation. Even with a hated ffg, they still can't get elected. Things are turning our way, did you see the EU vote the other day, were there are now plans for asylum hubs in Ubekistan etc and the winning side were singing send them back..... We will get there.
 
Jay Homer Simpson said:
Here is an example of the sort of thing making me feel demoralized, and this example is at the lower end of the scale so to speak
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seeing and hearing is believing -- you have to replay that and even then the enormity of what she is doing is difficult to come to terms with .
she might as well be choosing which ice pop she will lick --she has no humanity -- no depth to her--- its all the modern superficial consumer of everything and anything cost free they think .
they luxuriate in this self made dream of doing something--anything .
which is really destructive but the political machine they operate is fueled by this stuff and they bay and shout --we have overcome ---we have overcome .
obscenity- obscenity.
 
Perry said:
Her party, despite being the lead opposition party during a housing/immigration crisis, is still repulsive to the nation. Even with a hated ffg, they still can't get elected. Things are turning our way, did you see the EU vote the other day, were there are now plans for asylum hubs in Ubekistan etc and the winning side were singing send them back..... We will get there.
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i am rarely shocked to my core and in the 70s before some of you were born i had personal experience of the troubles and all my family were old IRA and had fought the British .
my relations were in Derry and Moville and i saw the bogside with them first hand -- they were teachers and priests and business people who were nationalist to the core .
what really shocked me was the known sacredness of OUR FIGHT amongst the people ,
and we never expected the IRA leadership to therefore PERMIT the emergence of the most destructive threat to that sacredness .
knowing the people would reject radical Marxism and recoil from it they allowed it to take hold of the leadership and then the movement .
I would say when the British found out or if they sponsored it --they partied for a week .
goodbye catholic church support goodbye southern political establishment support goodbye the support of teachers and farmers and anyone with more than 2 brain cells .
the STRUGGLE was now extremist led -divorced from the people -- now from the top actively diluting the support it would normally get by its own hand .
the struggle was no longer Irelands struggle but Marxisms international struggle first and Ireland second and we all heard it from Adams and it scared us that such a thing could happen to a movement that burned within us all , and we felt was sacred -- no Irish person was capable of destroying it from within we believed .
you look at the joke sinn fein is today --they have not attracted a single intellectual of any standing -- nobody from the business community nobody from the other Irish communities .
they have no policy except to distribute the existing wealth of Ireland amongst their friends and have not a single wealth creation policy as is standard Marxism through out the world .
we are treated to one mad Jewish led policy after another in order to destroy and weaken us from within .
what a fucking tragedy --imagine we had an Ireland first party,
totally devoted to Irish nationalism and loved by the people for their love of us instead we get these mad abortion /Marxist loving fucking weirdos dedicated to our Irish destruction even before we are born .
 
BIG FAT HOOR said:
i am rarely shocked to my core and in the 70s before some of you were born i had personal experience of the troubles and all my family were old IRA and had fought the British .
my relations were in Derry and Moville and i saw the bogside with them first hand -- they were teachers and priests and business people who were nationalist to the core .
what really shocked me was the known sacredness of OUR FIGHT amongst the people ,
and we never expected the IRA leadership to therefore PERMIT the emergence of the most destructive threat to that sacredness .
knowing the people would reject radical Marxism and recoil from it they allowed it to take hold of the leadership and then the movement .
I would say when the British found out or if they sponsored it --they partied for a week .
goodbye catholic church support goodbye southern political establishment support goodbye the support of teachers and farmers and anyone with more than 2 brain cells .
the STRUGGLE was now extremist led -divorced from the people -- now from the top actively diluting the support it would normally get by its own hand .
the struggle was no longer Irelands struggle but Marxisms international struggle first and Ireland second and we all heard it from Adams and it scared us that such a thing could happen to a movement that burned within us all , and we felt was sacred -- no Irish person was capable of destroying it from within we believed .
you look at the joke sinn fein is today --they have not attracted a single intellectual of any standing -- nobody from the business community nobody from the other Irish communities .
they have no policy except to distribute the existing wealth of Ireland amongst their friends and have not a single wealth creation policy as is standard Marxism through out the world .
we are treated to one mad Jewish led policy after another in order to destroy and weaken us from within .
what a fucking tragedy --imagine we had an Ireland first party,
totally devoted to Irish nationalism and loved by the people for their love of us instead we get these mad abortion /Marxist loving fucking weirdos dedicated to our Irish destruction even before we are born .
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Come on, the Old IRA had done nothing in the North or for North since the 1920s. Having a crowd of respectable bourgeois supporting the Scared Cause had not moved the Cause one iota. And those looking down their noses at the Provisionals and stayed inside the Church approved SDLP/NICRA were carried away with Black Rights in the US, thinking they were all Martin Luther King, that and fancying Jane Fonda whilst she simped for Vietnamese Commies. All those Civil Rights SDLP pensioners came in their pants when Obama became President. They all loved internationalism
 
SeekTheFairLand said:
Come on, the Old IRA had done nothing in the North or for North since the 1920s. Having a crowd of respectable bourgeois supporting the Scared Cause had not moved the Cause one iota. And those looking down their noses at the Provisionals and stayed inside the Church approved SDLP/NICRA were carried away with Black Rights in the US, thinking they were all Martin Luther King, that and fancying Jane Fonda whilst she simped for Vietnamese Commies. All those Civil Rights SDLP pensioners came in their pants when Obama became President. They all loved internationalism
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what planet were you living on .
we were faced with the brits doing the Dublin and monaghan bombings and the terrorism of the north was English/unionist /dup /orange /b specials / sas /M15 UVF/UDA +++++ well funded state terrorism on a grand scale with internment camps /concentration camps -- and in the bogside the terrorism extended to 8 families in one tiny house to limit the vote to the single householder .
the place was Auschwitz on steroids .
the only route for nationalism for those with more than 2 braincellss was to use an army against the brits which they could not defeat and then make sure when you won the war there would not be required a public surrender from the brits when the time came .
this was the american war against the brits by every american president and the Irish caucus in congress and the senate -- the brits were TOLD FUCK OFF WITH YOUR TERRORISM WE ARE SENDING ONE OF OUR MOST SENIOR WELL CONNECTED HIGHLY EXPERIENCED people to northern Ireland and fuck you he is taking up residence and he will start PEACE TALKS and fuck you if you dont like it you have no choice .
from that moment the war was over and all the British could do was try and limit the cost to themselves as if an american president had put his man on the ground to impose his WELL INFORMED WILL on the situation --then that was the end of the British state terrorism .
the IRA bomb s in the city of London then aligned the Jews against the British and the city of London has a higher GDP than all of great britian combined and money does not talk--- it screams .
therefore between the yanks and the Jews of the city with THEIR """remembrancer""" who sits/rules at the side of the speaker of the house of commons the brits were now in a sandwich of their own making and this was the end of the road as too many people were able to take a bite out of them at that time .
we got John Humes good Friday agreement backed by George Mitchell and the long line of carefully cultivated american presidents and the congress who learned to trust the Nobel prizewinning Hume AND WHO GUARANTEED HUME AND THE IRISH GOVERNMENT THEY WOULD TURN ON THE IRA AND DECLARE THEM TERRORISTS AND TAKE ALL THEIR MONEY AND SUPPORT FROM THEM if they did not support the good Friday agreement .
You know nothing -- i personally met Hume and he was a lot tougher than his puppy dog image ,
he is from Moville and my family knew him well and taught him in school ( FR Michael Keaveny ) who also taught Seamus Heaney -- not many teachers had 2 Nobel prizewinners in their class .
the IRA did not bring the good Friday agreement into place which was then recognized by Europe and the USA and the UN --this now locks the British into this agreement which is virtually an united Ireland in all but name -without a public surrender by the British however they had to surrender sovereignty to the Irish .
this was ALL achieved by middle class ex teachers like Hume who were smarter than the brits and who knew how to defeat them and they did defeat them by sheer intellectual power and tremendous bravery and back bone visible all around the world but not visible in pockets at home here .
 
BIG FAT HOOR said:
he Jews of the city with THEIR """remembrancer""" who sits/rules at the side of the speaker of the house of commons
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Dynamite info. Everyone in Parliament is elected, except this bucko from the City of London. Can we persuade him to do remigration?
 
BIG FAT HOOR said:
what planet were you living on .
we were faced with the brits doing the Dublin and monaghan bombings and the terrorism of the north was English/unionist /dup /orange /b specials / sas /M15 UVF/UDA +++++ well funded state terrorism on a grand scale with internment camps /concentration camps -- and in the bogside the terrorism extended to 8 families in one tiny house to limit the vote to the single householder .
the place was Auschwitz on steroids .
the only route for nationalism for those with more than 2 braincellss was to use an army against the brits which they could not defeat and then make sure when you won the war there would not be required a public surrender from the brits when the time came .
this was the american war against the brits by every american president and the Irish caucus in congress and the senate -- the brits were TOLD FUCK OFF WITH YOUR TERRORISM WE ARE SENDING ONE OF OUR MOST SENIOR WELL CONNECTED HIGHLY EXPERIENCED people to northern Ireland and fuck you he is taking up residence and he will start PEACE TALKS and fuck you if you dont like it you have no choice .
from that moment the war was over and all the British could do was try and limit the cost to themselves as if an american president had put his man on the ground to impose his WELL INFORMED WILL on the situation --then that was the end of the British state terrorism .
the IRA bomb s in the city of London then aligned the Jews against the British and the city of London has a higher GDP than all of great britian combined and money does not talk--- it screams .
therefore between the yanks and the Jews of the city with THEIR """remembrancer""" who sits/rules at the side of the speaker of the house of commons the brits were now in a sandwich of their own making and this was the end of the road as too many people were able to take a bite out of them at that time .
we got John Humes good Friday agreement backed by George Mitchell and the long line of carefully cultivated american presidents and the congress who learned to trust the Nobel prizewinning Hume AND WHO GUARANTEED HUME AND THE IRISH GOVERNMENT THEY WOULD TURN ON THE IRA AND DECLARE THEM TERRORISTS AND TAKE ALL THEIR MONEY AND SUPPORT FROM THEM if they did not support the good Friday agreement .
You know nothing -- i personally met Hume and he was a lot tougher than his puppy dog image ,
he is from Moville and my family knew him well and taught him in school ( FR Michael Keaveny ) who also taught Seamus Heaney -- not many teachers had 2 Nobel prizewinners in their class .
the IRA did not bring the good Friday agreement into place which was then recognized by Europe and the USA and the UN --this now locks the British into this agreement which is virtually an united Ireland in all but name -without a public surrender by the British however they had to surrender sovereignty to the Irish .
this was ALL achieved by middle class ex teachers like Hume who were smarter than the brits and who knew how to defeat them and they did defeat them by sheer intellectual power and tremendous bravery and back bone visible all around the world but not visible in pockets at home here .
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You're talking a lot of nonsense. Stick to talking about Palestine. Ireland is not your speciality
 
Doing some bicycle trips has transformed by attitude to life. The bicycle is a heroic machine. Using it makes you a hero.

Very encouragedby HUGE improvement in courtesy of car drivers when faced with cyclists on narrow twisty country roads.

Ten years ago, 90% of drivers couldn't give two fucks of they mowed you down.

Based on recent trips, that has totally switched. It's close to 90% of drivers who start to drive safely when they notice there's a cyclist ahead of them.

Something to do with all the people dying from the vax,maybe? The driver sees a cyclist and realises that despite his mobile phone he too is mortal.

Good news, what ever has caused it.
 
Diarmuid said:
Doing some bicycle trips has transformed by attitude to life. The bicycle is a heroic machine. Using it makes you a hero.

Very encouragedby HUGE improvement in courtesy of car drivers when faced with cyclists on narrow twisty country roads.

Ten years ago, 90% of drivers couldn't give two fucks of they mowed you down.

Based on recent trips, that has totally switched. It's close to 90% of drivers who start to drive safely when they notice there's a cyclist ahead of them.

Something to do with all the people dying from the vax,maybe? The driver sees a cyclist and realises that despite his mobile phone he too is mortal.

Good news, what ever has caused it.
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dashcams of other drivers and mobile phone towers able to state who was in the vicinity of the incident at the time .
the amount of accidental/deliberate data footage of passing cars is huge .
 
SeekTheFairLand said:
You're talking a lot of nonsense. Stick to talking about Palestine. Ireland is not your speciality
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we can all see you avoid each single point i made which is recorded on every newspaper and tv screen worldwide and many people are making a good living repeating the history of what happened from H BLOCK inmates to Bertie Ahern.
Calling it nonsense without any content is visibly not good enough for sarsfields.
 
BIG FAT HOOR said:
we can all see you avoid each single point i made which is recorded on every newspaper and tv screen worldwide and many people are making a good living repeating the history of what happened from H BLOCK inmates to Bertie Ahern.
Calling it nonsense without any content is visibly not good enough for sarsfields.
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John Hume was a constant drag on the War. He criticised those who fought for Ireland. He conspired with the bought leadership of the PRM, the British and whoever else to bring in an Agreement that demanded the disarmament of Northern Nationalists. Northern Nationalist did not get 'A United Ireland in all but name'. They did not get speaking rights in the Dail. They got the continuation of partition and the dismantling of their only form of leverage.

We are nearly 30 years from the Agreement and there isn't even a sniff of a border poll.


The Brits were not 'told to fuck off'. They are still here. They retain a veto on a United Ireland. Indeed the Brits, very far from being told to fuck off, through their intelligence services direct policing across the island of Ireland.


Hume was every bit the Marxist internationalist that you'd paint SF today. Here he is accepting his Nobel Prize and what does promise...

For that very reason I believe it is essential that Ireland now rises to the challenge of tolerance and inclusion. Now that our country is the destination for immigrants from across the world, from places such as8Eastern Europe, we must take a principled stand for a caring and compassionate society.

In this century the challenge for us all is the acceptance and promotion of ethnic diversity and we in Northern Ireland understand that we can lead the way.
 
SeekTheFairLand said:
John Hume was a constant drag on the War. He criticised those who fought for Ireland. He conspired with the bought leadership of the PRM, the British and whoever else to bring in an Agreement that demanded the disarmament of Northern Nationalists. Northern Nationalist did not get 'A United Ireland in all but name'. They did not get speaking rights in the Dail. They got the continuation of partition and the dismantling of their only form of leverage.

We are nearly 30 years from the Agreement and there isn't even a sniff of a border poll.


The Brits were not 'told to fuck off'. They are still here. They retain a veto on a United Ireland. Indeed the Brits, very far from being told to fuck off, through their intelligence services direct policing across the island of Ireland.


Hume was every bit the Marxist internationalist that you'd paint SF today. Here he is accepting his Nobel Prize and what does promise...

For that very reason I believe it is essential that Ireland now rises to the challenge of tolerance and inclusion. Now that our country is the destination for immigrants from across the world, from places such as8Eastern Europe, we must take a principled stand for a caring and compassionate society.

In this century the challenge for us all is the acceptance and promotion of ethnic diversity and we in Northern Ireland understand that we can lead the way.
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The politicisation of the struggle by Marxists was a disaster. Adams and McGuinness have a lot to answer for.
 
SeekTheFairLand said:
John Hume was a constant drag on the War. He criticised those who fought for Ireland. He conspired with the bought leadership of the PRM, the British and whoever else to bring in an Agreement that demanded the disarmament of Northern Nationalists. Northern Nationalist did not get 'A United Ireland in all but name'. They did not get speaking rights in the Dail. They got the continuation of partition and the dismantling of their only form of leverage.

We are nearly 30 years from the Agreement and there isn't even a sniff of a border poll.


The Brits were not 'told to fuck off'. They are still here. They retain a veto on a United Ireland. Indeed the Brits, very far from being told to fuck off, through their intelligence services direct policing across the island of Ireland.


Hume was every bit the Marxist internationalist that you'd paint SF today. Here he is accepting his Nobel Prize and what does promise...

For that very reason I believe it is essential that Ireland now rises to the challenge of tolerance and inclusion. Now that our country is the destination for immigrants from across the world, from places such as8Eastern Europe, we must take a principled stand for a caring and compassionate society.

In this century the challenge for us all is the acceptance and promotion of ethnic diversity and we in Northern Ireland understand that we can lead the way.
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to remove the border on our island was a gigantic win .
the removal of the British army from our island was a gigantic win -- it however had to be matched by the removal of the opposing army from the political scene to ensure the agreement would survive and that nobody was seen to surrender .
it took great effort to frame it as a truce and a Canadian general was entrusted to handle it as a truce/decommissioning by BOTH SIDES SUPERVISED BY A GENERAL ON THE BATTLEFIELD GIVING MILITARY STATUS TO BOTH SIDES AT THE SAME TIME.
thats what actually happened and it took huge work by Hume to make 6 governments agree at the same time to all of this .
IRELAND -ENGLAND THE USA -CANADA -THE EU-THE UN .
 
BIG FAT HOOR said:
to remove the border on our island was a gigantic win .
the removal of the British army from our island was a gigantic win -- it however had to be matched by the removal of the opposing army from the political scene to ensure the agreement would survive and that nobody was seen to surrender .
it took great effort to frame it as a truce and a Canadian general was entrusted to handle it as a truce/decommissioning by BOTH SIDES SUPERVISED BY A GENERAL ON THE BATTLEFIELD GIVING MILITARY STATUS TO BOTH SIDES AT THE SAME TIME.
thats what actually happened and it took huge work by Hume to make 6 governments agree at the same time to all of this .
IRELAND -ENGLAND THE USA -CANADA -THE EU-THE UN .
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You continue to be uninformed about the island of Ireland.
The British Army are still here.
They are here and they're here with their guns.
Here is the webpage of their continued garrison in Ireland
The IRA were disbanded and they were disarmed.
This is what the GFA was entirely about
When a war ends and one army is left in the field and the other army throws down its weapons and disbands itself, then there is a winner and loser.
Republicans and Nationalist lost
They have not made one inch of progress towards their objective since that time.
 
Indeed the numerical presence of British troops in the 6 counties in 2026 is broadly the same as the British Army numbers from 1920 to 1969. There was a surge in the 40s with the onset of WW2.
The GFA did not remove or even reduce the number of British troops. It returned NI to the normality of partition as it existed from 1920.
The GFA removed the IRA
And Asshole Nationalists think it was some sort of achievement?
LOL
The Republic removed it's Article II and III which made a territorial claim, replacing it with some soft sentiment about birth right. Westminster retains complete sovereignty over NI and a border poll is entirely at the whim of a British government. Neither Nationalist nor the Republic government have any mechanism to force a poll.
The idea of border poll was always in the gift of the British government right back to 1920.
The North South Ministerial Council, a sop to Nationalists in the GFA is merely an empty building in Armagh
And it's nothing new either.
The 1921 Treaty introduce a Council of Ireland designed to align the two parts of Ireland. Nationalist bought that idea in 1921.
It produced nothing and neither has the North South Ministerial Council.
 
SeekTheFairLand said:
Indeed the numerical presence of British troops in the 6 counties in 2026 is broadly the same as the British Army numbers from 1920 to 1969. There was a surge in the 40s with the onset of WW2.
The GFA did not remove or even reduce the number of British troops. It returned NI to the normality of partition as it existed from 1920.
The GFA removed the IRA
And Asshole Nationalists think it was some sort of achievement?
LOL
The Republic removed it's Article II and III which made a territorial claim, replacing it with some soft sentiment about birth right. Westminster retains complete sovereignty over NI and a border poll is entirely at the whim of a British government. Neither Nationalist nor the Republic government have any mechanism to force a poll.
The idea of border poll was always in the gift of the British government right back to 1920.
The North South Ministerial Council, a sop to Nationalists in the GFA is merely an empty building in Armagh
And it's nothing new either.
The 1921 Treaty introduce a Council of Ireland designed to align the two parts of Ireland. Nationalist bought that idea in 1921.
It produced nothing and neither has the North South Ministerial Council.
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I think, especially under Michael Martin, that the southern political class just don't want the hassle of a United Ireland, or ar least give it minimum attention. I think the gfa was the only real practical outcome regarding the 6 counties. What kills me is this shared island crap Martin came up with, to me that's designed to actually keep partition. Once the economy started to grow strongly here from the early 2000s we should have enticed the 6 to join up, an all island economy with low corporation tax etc we could have had a United Ireland by now. I will bow though, to those who live in the North, or indeed the border area, and post here and obviously know the situation better, I would be interested to get their take
 
Perry said:
I think, especially under Michael Martin, that the southern political class just don't want the hassle of a United Ireland, or ar least give it minimum attention. I think the gfa was the only real practical outcome regarding the 6 counties. What kills me is this shared island crap Martin came up with, to me that's designed to actually keep partition. Once the economy started to grow strongly here from the early 2000s we should have enticed the 6 to join up, an all island economy with low corporation tax etc we could have had a United Ireland by now. I will bow though, to those who live in the North, or indeed the border area, and post here and obviously know the situation better, I would be interested to get their take
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i am in the north almost each month and in 5 years i have not seen a b special a ruc a udr a british army man anywhere.
dont tell me nothing has changed .
 
BIG FAT HOOR said:
i am in the north almost each month and in 5 years i have not seen a b special a ruc a udr a british army man anywhere.
dont tell me nothing has changed .
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and if you were to drive down the road in England you wouldnt see the Brit Army either. Doesn't mean that they are not there. The IRA were dismantled and there was no need for checkpoints etc. The North didn't become less occupied just because the Brits withdrew to their barrack in the 6 counties. It did mean that the 6 counties are just a normal part of the UK, like Finchley.
 
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