Former DUP leader is rapist pedo

The Equalizer said:
It's exactly what I said.

Stop lying.
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Its exactly not what I said. I said:

"Your argument that its a lack of empathy is wrong; you can certainly feel levels of empathy with a victim but you cannot feel nothing unless you are a sociopath.

But theres no sliding scale on abhoring crime; crime against a person is crime. It cannot be condoned in any way."

In other words, yes, there can be varying levels of empathy considering proximity to the *victim* (but never zero), but there is the same revulsion in all cases to the *crime*.
Murder is bad. Rape is bad. End of.

Or thats how it is for most of us. In your case you dont feeling anything at all.
 
Haven said:
Its exactly not what I said. I said:

"Your argument that its a lack of empathy is wrong; you can certainly feel levels of empathy with a victim but you cannot feel nothing unless you are a sociopath.

But theres no sliding scale on abhoring crime; crime against a person is crime. It cannot be condoned in any way."

In other words, yes, there can be varying levels of empathy considering proximity to the *victim*, but there is the same revulsion in all cases to the *crime*.
Murder is bad. Rape is bad. End of.

Or thats how it is for most of us. In your case you dont feeling anything at all.
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I have talked about a lack of empathy and having more empathy.

It's you who made up me talking about having no empathy.
 
Haven said:
You simply said:



Which is wrong.


Its clear as day you are a sociopath.

And I think its been pointed out to you so often, you've taken to calling others "psychopaths" as a defense mechanism.
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It's clear as day, if you're equally abhorred by crime, regardless of who the perpetrator and victim is, then you lack empathy.

If you care as much, or little, about your kid being raped as you would a stranger being raped, then it's obvious that you're a psychopath.
 
The Equalizer said:
It's clear as day, if you're equally abhorred by crime, regardless of who the perpetrator and victim is, then you lack empathy.

If you care as much, or little, about your kid being raped as you would a stranger being raped, then it's obvious that you're a psychopath.
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I don't think he understands your point or is just being wilfully ignorant to it.
I suspect the latter.
 
The Equalizer said:
It's clear as day, if you're equally abhored by crime, regardless of who the perpetrator and victim is, then you lack empathy.

If you care as much, or little, about your kid being raped as you would a stranger, then it's obvious that you're a psychopath.
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No emotional reaction to my post, just another robotic reply according to the "Rules". (Rule 12 this time).

Look...trolling by pretending to be stupid....is stupid.

But it allows me to make my point again: there can be varying levels of empathy considering proximity to the *victim* (but never zero), but there is the same revulsion in all cases to the *crime*.
 
Haven said:
No emotional reaction to my post, just another robotic reply according to the "Rules". (Rule 12 this time).

Look...trolling by pretending to be stupid....is stupid.

But it allows me to make my point again: there can be varying levels of empathy considering proximity to the *victim* (but never zero), but there is the same revulsion in all cases to the *crime*.
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A normal person wouldn't feel the "same revulsion in all cases to crime" - regardless of the perpetrator and the victim.

All you're doing by saying that is revealing that you're a psychopath.
 
The Equalizer said:
A normal person wouldn't feel the "same revulsion in all cases to crime" - regardless of the perpetrator and the victim.

All you're doing by saying that is revealing that you're a psychopath.
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James, you're on your own. You have no idea of what "normal" feels like, and instead make the error that people must or should think like you.

I would safely say the idea of rape or murder enstils a very high level of revulsion in society at large.

Only a psychopath would suggest otherwise.
 
Haven said:
James, you're on your own. You have no idea of what "normal" feels like, and instead make the error that people must or should think like you.

I would safely say the idea of rape or murder enstils a very high level of revulsion in society at large.

Only a psychopath would suggest otherwise.
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Once again, you're lying, or strawmanning..

I have not talked about having no empathy.

I have said that it's normal to have varying degrees of empathy.

And that causes your head to explode, because you're a psychopath.
 
The Equalizer said:
Once again, you're lying, or strawmanning..

I have not talked about having no empathy.

I have said that it's normal to have varying degrees of empathy.

And that causes your head to explode, because you're a psychopath.
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Again, there can be varying levels of empathy considering proximity to the *victim* (but never zero), but there is the same revulsion in all cases to the *crime*.

The fact that you keep going back to talking about "lying" is a classic tell: because deceit and manipulation are natural tools for psychopaths, you project your own behaviors and internal realities onto others, assuming that everyone operates with the same selfish motives as you do. Your mind is broken. You can't get better. You will never be normal.
 
Just Think said:
I don't think he understands your point or is just being wilfully ignorant to it.
I suspect the latter.
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I understand what he is saying.

Its just totally wrong. And he is not equipped to see it.
 
Haven said:
Again, there can be varying levels of empathy considering proximity to the *victim* (but never zero),
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Why repeat your strawman?

Haven said:
but there is the same revulsion in all cases to the *crime*.
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No, there isn't. Told you that already, and I told you that it depends on who the perpetrator and the victim is.

Haven said:
The fact that you keep going back to talking about "lying" is a classic tell: because deceit and manipulation are natural tools for psychopaths, you project your own behaviors and internal realities onto others, assuming that everyone operates with the same selfish motives as you do. Your mind is broken. You can't get better. You will never be normal.
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You're pretending to care, because you're a psychopath, that's why none of this makes any sense to you which, is kind of hilarious. Although you being a psychopath isn't.
 
Haven said:
I understand what he is saying.

Its just totally wrong. And he is not equipped to see it.
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He's not wrong.
If Jeffery Donaldson gets raped in prison are you seriously saying you would have as much empathy for him is some scrote raped your mother/sister/daughter etc?
Point being, if Bubba has a shot at Donaldson in jail, I for one wouldn't be revulsed by it and most normal thinking people would think the same.
 
Just Think said:
He's not wrong.
If Jeffery Donaldson gets raped in prison are you seriously saying you would have as much empathy for him is some scrote raped your mother/sister/daughter etc?
Point being, if Bubba has a shot at Donaldson in jail, I for one wouldn't be revulsed by it and most normal thinking people would think the same.
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This just popped into my head, for some reason :) -

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Just Think said:
He's not wrong.If Jeffery Donaldson gets raped in prison are you seriously saying you would have as much empathy for him is some scrote raped your mother/sister/daughter etc?Point being, if Bubba has a shot at Donaldson in jail, I for one wouldn't be revulsed by it and most normal thinking people would think the same.
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He actually cares as much about Donaldson's arse as he does his own Tranny daughter?!!!
 
The daughter he wants to be Trans. He'd have the same empathy for Donaldson being boned by Bubba as he would if his own daughter was raped?

That's freakin' weird!
 
Myles O'Reilly said:
The daughter he wants to be Trans. He'd have the same empathy for Donaldson being boned by Bubba as he would if his own daughter was raped?

That's freakin' weird!
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Oh, he's one of those?
That'll do me, I'll not be conversing with him again so.
In my experience there's no point in trying.
 
Haven said:
You say I'm a troll who doesnt care but I'm the only one here who points it out.

And its not going away.

www.irishtimes.com

‘You weren’t safe’: Women call for redress over abuse in Co Cork school

Nineteen women ‘forced to sue State’ to get redress for historical child sexual abuse at Cork school
www.irishtimes.com www.irishtimes.com

www.irishtimes.com

Sports coach (63) jailed for 14 years for rape and sexual assault of two teenage girls

Abuse of two minors was pervasive and systematic, says judge, noting it occurred over prolonged periods of time
www.irishtimes.com www.irishtimes.com


View: https://youtu.be/DD7PIGgfdj0?si=BlzzqkWI7I1_UV0D


Not a peep here, unless its a bizarre, self-serving, defense put up like the likes of yourself.
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You missed the point as usual, retard. You're only vocal about abuse/or allegations of abuse when it's leveled against members of the clergy.

Abuse of children is widespread in all large institutions, from charities to sporting organisations. But listening to you and your brainless mob one would think it was confined to elderly Priests. You fucking dope.

And your brainless mob do away with all fundamental legal principles of justice as I outlined above - something that has real life consequences for individuals.

Kevin Reynolds (priest) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

Gobshite.
 
Aldo3 said:
You missed the point as usual, retard. You're only vocal about abuse/or allegations of abuse when it's leveled against members of the clergy.

Abuse of children is widespread in all large institutions, from charities to sporting organisations. But listening to you and your brainless mob one would think it was confined to elderly Priests. You fucking dope.

And your brainless mob do away with all fundamental legal principles of justice as I outlined above - something that has real life consequences for individuals.

Kevin Reynolds (priest) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

Gobshite.
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Wrong as usual. If you look at my post again you will see I have posted links to several cases, not just RCC.

And earlier in the thread: https://www.sarsfieldsvirtualpub.com/threads/former-dup-leader-is-rapist-pedo.1514/post-164599

But you return yet again to defending the RCC.
 
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Just Think said:
He's not wrong.
If Jeffery Donaldson gets raped in prison are you seriously saying you would have as much empathy for him is some scrote raped your mother/sister/daughter etc?
Point being, if Bubba has a shot at Donaldson in jail, I for one wouldn't be revulsed by it and most normal thinking people would think the same.
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I am starting to suspect none of you know what empathy actually is....or the types. James certainly does not.

No., I would not as much empathy for him as some scrote who raped my mother/sister/daughter etc. I would have little empathy for Donaldson as a victim, and little empathy for the perpetator of a rape of a family member.

But I would still abhor the *crime* in each case.

Becuase raping someone is still pretty fucked up no matter who is the victim.
 
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Haven said:
I am starting to suspect none of you know what empathy actually is....or the types. James certainly does not.

No., I would not as much empathy for him as some scrote who raped my mother/sister/daughter etc. I would have little empathy for Donaldson as a victim, and little empathy for the perpetator of a rape of a family member.

But I would still abhor the *crime* in each case.

Becuase raping someone is still pretty fucked up no matter who is the victim.
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^ Does anyone know WTF Haven is talking about? 🤔
 
Mad as Fish said:
It goes off the rails just as soon as he finds himself on the wrong side of an argument. A common enough occurrence with the entity.
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lol He's all over the shop.

The bottom line is he can't understand these things, which are related to empathy, because he lacks it.
 
The Equalizer said:
lol He's all over the shop.

The bottom line is he can't understand these things, which are related to empathy, because he lacks it.
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You are projecting again James.

It is entirely possible to have low empathy for a specific victim while completely abhorring the crime committed against them.

These two responses are processed by different parts of our psychological and moral frameworks - that is, if you have them.

Abhorring a crime stems from your core values, ethical code, and societal conditioning. It is a logical and moral evaluation of an act as universally wrong, unjust, or harmful.

Empathy, in this case emotional (affective) empathy is an emotional response. It can be hindered by a variety of personal, social, or psychological factors.

This is generally known and observed psychological reactions. If this does not make sense to you, if you cannot understand it or process it, congratulations! You have narrowed yourself down to either autism, alexithymia, or psychopathic or sociopathic tendencies.
 
As @Haven has now slinked away with laugh emojis, I feel that I should bring some clarity to this thread..

First of all, as is obviously true and as I said, people like Haven use crime committed by migrants as an opportunity to call white people racist.

When I told him that his racism idea is actually normal human empathy, his head fell off, because he doesn't have any (empathy). He doesn't understand that empathy does not have a judge and jury, because he's a psychopath.
 
Haven said:
You are projecting again James.

It is entirely possible to have low empathy for a specific victim while completely abhorring the crime committed against them.

These two responses are processed by different parts of our psychological and moral frameworks - that is, if you have them.

Abhorring a crime stems from your core values, ethical code, and societal conditioning. It is a logical and moral evaluation of an act as universally wrong, unjust, or harmful.

Empathy, in this case emotional (affective) empathy is an emotional response. It can be hindered by a variety of personal, social, or psychological factors.

This is generally known and observed psychological reactions. If this does not make sense to you, if you cannot understand it or process it, congratulations! You have narrowed yourself down to either autism, alexithymia, or psychopathic or sociopathic tendencies.
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Oh he's back..
 
The Equalizer said:
As @Haven has now slinked away with laugh emojis, I feel that I should bring some clarity to this thread..

First of all, as is obviously true and as I said, people like Haven use crime committed by migrants as an opportunity to call white people racist.

When I told him that his racism idea is actually normal human empathy, his head fell off, because he doesn't have any (empathy). He doesn't understand that empathy does not have a judge and jury, because he's a psychopath.
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Anyone doubting the accusation of Haven being a psychopath should consider his rabid support for the covid scam, something he still tries to justify.
 
Haven said:
You are projecting again James.

It is entirely possible to have low empathy for a specific victim while completely abhorring the crime committed against them.
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This is simply your dumb strawman.

I have not said anything about the crime. I've said that different levels of empathy in relation to who the perpetrator and victim are is perfectly normal.

Your thesis is that it's racism.

Haven said:
These two responses are processed by different parts of our psychological and moral frameworks - that is, if you have them.

Abhorring a crime stems from your core values, ethical code, and societal conditioning. It is a logical and moral evaluation of an act as universally wrong, unjust, or harmful.

Empathy, in this case emotional (affective) empathy is an emotional response. It can be hindered by a variety of personal, social, or psychological factors.

This is generally known and observed psychological reactions. If this does not make sense to you, if you cannot understand it or process it, congratulations! You have narrowed yourself down to either autism, alexithymia, or psychopathic or sociopathic tendencies.
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The Equalizer said:
This is simply your dumb strawman.

I have not said anything about the crime. I've said that different levels of empathy in relation to who the perpetrator and victim are is perfectly normal.

Your thesis is that it's racism.
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Consider your differential diagnosis complete!
 
Haven said:
Consider your differential diagnosis complete!
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You believe that if whites don't riot after a crime but they do after another crime (which are apples and oranges anyway), then it's because the white people are racist.
 
The Equalizer said:
This just popped into my head, for some reason :) -

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Going back to that ^ picture, does @Haven have the slightest clue what's going on there 🤔

Furthermore, and to add another dimension, were there riots after OJ got away with murdering two White people?

How about the case of Rodney King?
 
The Equalizer said:
You believe that if whites don't riot after a crime but they do after another crime (which are apples and oranges anyway), then it's because the white people are racist.
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To add to the list: assuming that a specific persons reaction (e.g., protesting versus not protesting) are driven strictly by a malicious trait—such as racism— is called the ultimate attribution error. UAE is most closely associated with Paranoid Personality Disorder, Narcissistic Personality Disorder and Antisocial Personality Disorder. I'm thinking ASPD in your case.
 
Haven said:
To add to the list: assuming that a specific persons reaction (e.g., protesting versus not protesting) are driven strictly by a malicious trait—such as racism— is called the ultimate attribution error. UAE is most closely associated with Paranoid Personality Disorder, Narcissistic Personality Disorder and Antisocial Personality Disorder. I'm thinking ASPD in your case.
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Does anyone know WTF Haven is talking about, now? 🤔
 
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