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These creatures are removed from humanity when you hear these reasons being presented as rational.
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Indeed, and Graham is amongst the worst of them!

Christians, Muslims, atheists, it matters not who is sacrificed!

Only Jews are protected from Uncle Sam's wrath!
 
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Miggledy must be the Fluffer at the Gay Orgies ! ! !
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I was under the impression that the task of fluffers was to ensure that the actors 'get wood' before a performance. Not sure that having Miggledy attending to the job would have the desired effect, but hey, I'm no expert when it comes to uphill gardening.
 
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Reminder: Jarry is the site's premier lying faggot. The truth is Avdviivka will 100% be captured by Russia, and every day that passes brings this event horizon closer.

But don't take it from me. Take it from the former deputy commander of Azov. In fact, he reports that the AFU already want to abandon the city, but Zelensky won't let them because he needs to keep up appearances that this counteroffensive has been something other than an utter dismal failure.

Something else worth thinking about is that Avdiivka is literally the most fortified bastion of Defence in Ukraine and RU forces are annexing it at a far faster clip than they did Bahkmut. Indeed, the current battle is playing out exactly as the battle for Bahkmut did. It is the last major line of defence preventing Russia from encroaching easily into the North. Taking Donetsk will be exceedingly less difficult once Avdiivka falls, which is inevitable.


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Reminder: Jarry is the site's premier lying faggot. The truth is Avdviivka will 100% be captured by Russia, and every day that passes brings this event horizon closer.

But don't take it from me. Take it from the former deputy commander of Azov. In fact, he reports that the AFU already want to abandon the city, but Zelensky won't let them because he needs to keep up appearances that this counteroffensive has been something other than an utter dismal failure.

Something else worth thinking about is that Avdiivka is literally the most fortified bastion of Defence in Ukraine and RU forces are annexing it at a far faster clip than they did Bahkmut. Indeed, the current battle is playing out exactly as the battle for Bahkmut did. It is the last major line of defence preventing Russia from encroaching easily into the North. Taking Donetsk will be exceedingly less difficult once Avdiivka falls, which is inevitable.


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The site pervert is getting its facts from a cat in Kherson again.
How regressive.😂 😂 😂
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Zitler can you hear us.....your boys are taking a hell of a beating........:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

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Ukraine reports 'massive' Russian drone attack

Ukrainian officials have said that Russia had launched a "massive" drone attack on its cities and infrastructure overnight, warning that Moscow could be escalating its strikes ahead of winter.
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Zelensky admits that the entire world is losing interest in Ukraine, treating it as a TV re-run that’s on for the 10th time in a row:

“The scariest thing is that part of the world got used to the war in Ukraine,” he says. “Exhaustion with the war rolls along like a wave. You see it in the United States, in Europe. And we see that as soon as they start to get a little tired, it becomes like a show to them: ‘I can’t watch this rerun for the 10th time.’”
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Members of Zelensky’s team say he’s lost the “sparkle” he once had, now arriving to give orders then coldly leaving without any fanfare or trivialities. He feels “betrayed” by his “allies,” he says.

But that’s where the frightening part comes in:

But his convictions haven’t changed. Despite the recent setbacks on the battlefield, he does not intend to give up fighting or to sue for any kind of peace. On the contrary, his belief in Ukraine’s ultimate victory over Russia has hardened into a form that worries some of his advisers. It is immovable, verging on the messianic. “He deludes himself,” one of his closest aides tells me in frustration. “We’re out of options. We’re not winning. But try telling him that.”
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This is the quintessential Führerbunker moment.
 
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Zelensky admits that the entire world is losing interest in Ukraine, treating it as a TV re-run that’s on for the 10th time in a row:


Members of Zelensky’s team say he’s lost the “sparkle” he once had, now arriving to give orders then coldly leaving without any fanfare or trivialities. He feels “betrayed” by his “allies,” he says.

But that’s where the frightening part comes in:


This is the quintessential Führerbunker moment.
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I'm assuming that's genuine?

If so, they're beginning to admit it's over.
 
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Wolf said:
Zitler can you hear us.....your boys are taking a hell of a beating........:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

www.rte.ie

Ukraine reports 'massive' Russian drone attack

Ukrainian officials have said that Russia had launched a "massive" drone attack on its cities and infrastructure overnight, warning that Moscow could be escalating its strikes ahead of winter.
www.rte.ie www.rte.ie
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Another important confirmation. Recall a few reports ago we spoke of Russia’s new Lancet capabilities. Now it’s being confirmed by Western sources that Russia has been increasing use of fully automated AI versions of the Lancet:

💥🔥💥The Russian Armed Forces have started actively using Lancet barrage munitions with a new guidance system.
In fact, the target recognition and acquisition system in the new Lancet (aka Izdeliye-53) works like the homing head of an air-to-surface missile, which makes it possible to achieve absolute accuracy in hitting the target, including objects in motion.
It is noteworthy that after destroying the Czech RM-70 Vampire MLRS, the drone also targeted the Czech 152mm wheeled SAU vz.77 Dana.
In fact, after the introduction of the new Lancets, the crew's tasks are reduced to designating a combat zone for it in the programme and launching the drone from the catapult. The functions of target search and acquisition are performed by automation, and the crew can change position immediately after the launch.💥🔥💥
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The official British Defense Ministry transmission was even forced to acknowledge the recent uptick in Lancet successes:
 
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Wolf said:
Zitler can you hear us.....your boys are taking a hell of a beating........:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

www.rte.ie

Ukraine reports 'massive' Russian drone attack

Ukrainian officials have said that Russia had launched a "massive" drone attack on its cities and infrastructure overnight, warning that Moscow could be escalating its strikes ahead of winter.
www.rte.ie www.rte.ie
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And ISW (Institute for the Study of War) has sounded the alarm as well. From a Newsweek article:



The sources said the newer versions of these drones have an "automatic guidance system that can distinguish types of targets and increase strike success rates," the ISW said on Saturday. The Kremlin's forces are reportedly testing the uncrewed kamikaze drones "for mass synchronized swarm strikes."
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The article states that the Lancet is thought to cost around $35,000. Recall that EU’s production of 155mm shells now costs over $8,000 per shell—and that’s the unguided ones. It takes dozens of shells to hit a target. That means Lancet is far more economical than Ukraine’s artillery as 4 dumb-fired shells already accounts for the same price as a Lancet drone.
 
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Meanwhile the U.S. continues to experience weapons woes as the much-vaunted test launch of their new Minuteman III ICBM over the Pacific Ocean was apparently deemed a failure:



An unarmed USAF Minuteman III ICBM has been "safely terminated over Pacific Ocean at 12:06 a.m. due to an anomaly during a test launch from Vandenberg Space Force Base, California."
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It seems even the decaying U.S.’s ICBM capabilities are now in question.
 
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Zelensky admits that the entire world is losing interest in Ukraine, treating it as a TV re-run that’s on for the 10th time in a row:


Members of Zelensky’s team say he’s lost the “sparkle” he once had, now arriving to give orders then coldly leaving without any fanfare or trivialities. He feels “betrayed” by his “allies,” he says.

But that’s where the frightening part comes in:


This is the quintessential Führerbunker moment.
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He said on TV the other day that "this isn't a war movie".....as he winked to the camera....... :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
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SeekTheFairLand said:
Meanwhile the U.S. continues to experience weapons woes as the much-vaunted test launch of their new Minuteman III ICBM over the Pacific Ocean was apparently deemed a failure:



It seems even the decaying U.S.’s ICBM capabilities are now in question.
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This is what happens when ya put tranny's in charge.:ROFLMAO:
 
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‘Commander, I’m not going out there.’. A Russian officer gives a harrowing account of the carnage he witnessed in the battle for the Ukrainian town of Avdiivka — Novaya Gazeta Europe

The town of Avdiivka in eastern Ukraine’s Donetsk region had a population of over 35,000 before the war. Since March, Russian troops have reduced much of the town to rubble with relentless shelling in a battle that some military analysts have compared to the assault on Bakhmut. Even pro-war...
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"We started getting shelled 200 metres shy of our destination. People were afraid of the incoming shelling and laid low but I screamed at them to keep running. One fighter was sitting there, scared, so I asked him, “Andrey, is everything okay?” He said, “Yes.” I left him there and a shell hit a minute later. Three dead. Roma’s face was blown off, Saint’s stomach was all out, and Wind’s groin was blown away. He was screaming so fucking loud. We got him to the road and he bled out there. Then Ilya took the shrapnel from the next shell and died on the spot. There were another three dead. I don’t know how. Total chaos. I tell everyone to get the fuck back and retrieve anyone injured."
 
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I'm assuming that's genuine?

If so, they're beginning to admit it's over.
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The cold will also make military advances more difficult, locking down the front lines at least until the spring.

https://time.com/6329188/ukraine-volodymyr-zelensky-interview/

Always check even when posted by a veracious source, especially if it seems unlikely.

Is there diplomatic capital and resources available to bring this war to some sort of conclusion? There is still considerable support in Europe for Ukraine.

Can Ukraine get a EU but not NATO deal and the restoration of the non-Donbas regions of Ukraine? That would be a success for Ukraine. If Russia can secure the irredentist portion of Donbas and remove Crimea (with a water corridor) from discussion with a neutrality contract for Ukraine modeled on late Cold War agreements then that would be a win for them.

There also has to be an agreement on the hydrocarbon reserves in the region - I think the Russians want the Ukrainians dependent on them for energy and I think that there are Ukrainian oligarchs who aspire to become hydrocarbon aristocrats and are so blocking any peace deal until they can secure this.

I think a neutrality agreement was why Trump met Putin in Helsinki but he was a noob at the time and had a Vienna Summit episode that made for poor optics. The Neocons were still in ascendance and the credibility of the media hadn't been unwound yet. Let's hope it doesn't turn out like Libya - a mess that was bungled and then ignored.

I've been on the Ukrainian side when it came to membership of the EU since year dot. The war has taken too many lives and wreaked too much destruction for it to rationally continue. The question is not whether it's time to bring it to a conclusion but whether there is the talent to do this - the responsible parties are evading this question by pouring more money into it and refusing to contemplate satisfactory terms.


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And ISW (Institute for the Study of War) has sounded the alarm as well. From a Newsweek article:



The article states that the Lancet is thought to cost around $35,000. Recall that EU’s production of 155mm shells now costs over $8,000 per shell—and that’s the unguided ones. It takes dozens of shells to hit a target. That means Lancet is far more economical than Ukraine’s artillery as 4 dumb-fired shells already accounts for the same price as a Lancet drone.
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It's all looking increasingly macabre. Watching the attempts by Russian armour to break through Ukrainian lines is reminiscent of WWI. It was the same for earlier attempts by Ukrainian armour on the Russian defensive lines.

The following goes for both sides.


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It's going to be over for Jarry as soon as Russia conquers Avdiivka.

He'll have absolutely no way to swing this, and will have to admit that Ukraine's counteroffensive has failed, and that Ukraine is losing the war. He's getting in as much bullshit as he can before conceding.
 
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I've been on the Ukrainian side when it came to membership of the EU since year dot.
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Then you've always been pro-war, because a NATO bastion on Russia's doorstep obviously isn't something that Russia could or can ever allow to happen.
 
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Then you've always been pro-war, because a NATO bastion on Russia's doorstep obviously isn't something that Russia could or can ever allow to happen.
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That's not what I said. EU membership is not the same as NATO membership.

'In a candid assessment, Gen. Valery Zaluzhny said no “beautiful breakthrough” was imminent and that breaking the deadlock could require advances in technological warfare.'

Ukraine’s Top Commander Says War Has Hit a ‘Stalemate’ - NY Times

Meanwhile, the Iranians are probably hoping all the money they spent on Russian surface to air missiles was worth it.



How long before an Israeli airstrike on Iranian nuclear facilities? It's on the cards, let's hope it doesn't get drawn.

Ration cards are fun. They would be a new experience, just like lockdowns. New experiences enrich our lives.
 
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The trauma is horrific for the actors. The trauma for the USA, EU NASA will be very hard on them. They will have to accept defeat, they deserve it IMO
 
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tldr said:
That's not what I said. EU membership is not the same as NATO membership.

'In a candid assessment, Gen. Valery Zaluzhny said no “beautiful breakthrough” was imminent and that breaking the deadlock could require advances in technological warfare.'

Ukraine’s Top Commander Says War Has Hit a ‘Stalemate’ - NY Times
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This is why
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U.S., European officials broach topic of peace negotiations with Ukraine, sources say

The conversations have included very broad outlines of what Ukraine might need to give up to reach a deal with Russia.
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tldr said:
The cold will also make military advances more difficult, locking down the front lines at least until the spring.

https://time.com/6329188/ukraine-volodymyr-zelensky-interview/

Always check even when posted by a veracious source, especially if it seems unlikely.

Is there diplomatic capital and resources available to bring this war to some sort of conclusion? There is still considerable support in Europe for Ukraine.

Can Ukraine get a EU but not NATO deal and the restoration of the non-Donbas regions of Ukraine? That would be a success for Ukraine. If Russia can secure the irredentist portion of Donbas and remove Crimea (with a water corridor) from discussion with a neutrality contract for Ukraine modeled on late Cold War agreements then that would be a win for them.

There also has to be an agreement on the hydrocarbon reserves in the region - I think the Russians want the Ukrainians dependent on them for energy and I think that there are Ukrainian oligarchs who aspire to become hydrocarbon aristocrats and are so blocking any peace deal until they can secure this.

I think a neutrality agreement was why Trump met Putin in Helsinki but he was a noob at the time and had a Vienna Summit episode that made for poor optics. The Neocons were still in ascendance and the credibility of the media hadn't been unwound yet. Let's hope it doesn't turn out like Libya - a mess that was bungled and then ignored.

I've been on the Ukrainian side when it came to membership of the EU since year dot. The war has taken too many lives and wreaked too much destruction for it to rationally continue. The question is not whether it's time to bring it to a conclusion but whether there is the talent to do this - the responsible parties are evading this question by pouring more money into it and refusing to contemplate satisfactory terms.




It's all looking increasingly macabre. Watching the attempts by Russian armour to break through Ukrainian lines is reminiscent of WWI. It was the same for earlier attempts by Ukrainian armour on the Russian defensive lines.

The following goes for both sides.


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There is still considerable support in Europe for Ukraine.

Only amongst the political class and they are only taking their lead from the US. Down at ground level its a different story and some politicos are slowly waking up to that, but by no means all.
 

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