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Quit spaming. One post at a time, two if they are replies.

This war was over on June 17 like I predicted.
 
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Well I watched the video and if that's true, Putin must have been fucking insane to think NATO would abandon half of Europe, or he knew it was an impossible offer to accept, like the Austro-Hungarian ultimatum to Serbia. The Eastern Europeans would fight like hell against any attempt to throw them out of a security alliance. Its an insane proposition.

The countries who joined NATO after the USSR fell, joined for a reason, you know.

I wasn't aware of this Putin gambit before, and quite frankly, Russia should get a full WW1 Versailles treatment, Article 231 when this is all over. Some of the Russian leadership should go on trial.

Great find.
 

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There's still a pointless and obscene butchers bill being presented to the Ukrainians and Russian peoples.
Indeed. I blame Obama for every uke death. They are mince.
 

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Well I watched the video and if that's true, Putin must have been fucking insane to think NATO would abandon half of Europe, or he knew it was an impossible offer to accept, like the Austro-Hungarian ultimatum to Serbia. The Eastern Europeans would fight like hell against any attempt to throw them out of a security alliance. Its an insane proposition.

The countries who joined NATO after the USSR fell, joined for a reason, you know.

I wasn't aware of this Putin gambit before, and quite frankly, Russia should get a full WW1 Versailles treatment, Article 231 when this is all over. Some of the Russian leadership should go on trial.

Great find.
Denial isn’t just a river in Africa.
 
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Denial isn’t just a river in Africa.
It's pretty much what's said in the video. Putin offered a totally unworkable, unrealistic and unwanted offer. How did he think anyone would go for that with this track record since 1991:
  • 1992-1993 – Russia occupied Transnistria.
  • 1992-1993 – Russia provoked the Abkhazian war.
  • 1994-1996 – first Russian-Chechen war.
  • 1999-2009 – second Russian-Chechen war.
  • 2008 – Russian-Georgian war.
  • 2014 onwards –Invasion of Ukraine, occuption of Crimea
  • 2015-2022 – Russia's invasion of Syria.
No Eastern European country would leave NATO seeing all this unfold. Not even Orban would do it, and that tells you all you need to know.
 

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It's pretty much what's said in the video. Putin offered a totally unworkable, unrealistic and unwanted offer. How did he think anyone would go for that with this track record since 1991:
  • 1992-1993 – Russia occupied Transnistria.
  • 1992-1993 – Russia provoked the Abkhazian war.
  • 1994-1996 – first Russian-Chechen war.
  • 1999-2009 – second Russian-Chechen war.
  • 2008 – Russian-Georgian war.
  • 2014 onwards –Invasion of Ukraine, occuption of Crimea
  • 2015-2022 – Russia's invasion of Syria.
No Eastern European country would leave NATO seeing all this unfold. Not even Orban would do it, and that tells you all you need to know.
Horseshit!

Russia has legitimate security concerns and put forward a perfectly reasonable proposal that was ignored because the US wants Putin gone so the people running it can pillage the place after acquiring Russian subservience. They knew that if they kept turning the screw Russia would go into Ukraine. There was no other choice left!

The Globalists/Neocons hoped the SMO would give them the opportunity to oust Putin, either through internal pressure born from dissatisfaction due to economic stress from the sanctions, or due to a military failure.

It backfired as Russia is now stronger both economically and militarily. And Putin is more secure than ever. Ukraine was sacrificed to placate the Neocons whose greed and hatred know no bounds!

There are thousands of shills like you online, doing their bit for the (lost) cause, but it makes not a jot of difference to reality, regardless of how much propaganda you spread!

Russia has prevailed!😎
 

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Horseshit!

Russia has legitimate security concerns and put forward a perfectly reasonable proposal that was ignored because the US wants Putin gone so the people running it can pillage the place after acquiring Russian subservience. They knew that if they kept turning the screw Russia would go into Ukraine. There was no other choice left!

The Globalists/Neocons hoped the SMO would give them the opportunity to oust Putin, either through internal pressure born from dissatisfaction due to economic stress from the sanctions, or due to a military failure.

It backfired as Russia is now stronger both economically and militarily. And Putin is more secure than ever. Ukraine was sacrificed to placate the Neocons whose greed and hatred know no bounds!

There are thousands of shills like you online, doing their bit for the (lost) cause, but it makes not a jot of difference to reality, regardless of how much propaganda you spread!

Russia has prevailed!😎
Well said.
The West thought that their superior technology would rule the day and it only applied to drones as the so called game changer tanks, were useless. I have not heard a word about Abram tanks in month. Have they got there even. They likely are as useless as Biden.
Ukraine is likely out of ammo now as well.

Meanwhile we are just 5 days from a possible government shutdown so the money panic is on for zellensky. When those unhappy solders and mercy are not paid, they likely will react unfavorably to disappointment.
 

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It's begun.

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Russia has legitimate security concerns and put forward a perfectly reasonable proposal
Total shite. Neither of these are true. Only a total fucking eejit manipulated by Russian propaganda would say otherwise.

Anong the last set of countries to enter NATO were Albania and Croatia in 2009, and then there is a long gap until Montenegro in 2017 and North Macedonia in 2019.

Did mighty North Macedonia suddenly scare Putin all of a sudden? The entire premise of Putins argument is horseshit.

Now Russian Federation is doing exactly what led to the failure of the USSR and the Russian Empire, massive spending on the military at the expense of everything else. Its basically a rerun of Reagans strategy. The best paying jobs right now are in the army, a job that is essentially unproductive for the economy and in fact drain the coffers.
 
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Total shite. Neither of these are true. Only a total fucking eejit manipulated by Russian propaganda would say otherwise.

Anong the last set of countries to enter NATO were Albania and Croatia in 2009, and then there is a long gap until Montenegro in 2017 and North Macedonia in 2019.

Did mighty North Macedonia suddenly scare Putin all of a sudden? The entire premise of Putins argument is horseshit.

Now Russian Federation is doing exactly what led to the failure of the USSR and the Russian Empire, massive spending on the military at the expense of everything else. It’s basically a rerun of Reagans strategy. The best paying jobs right now are in the army, a job that is essentially unproductive for the economy and in fact drain the coffers.
Sorry, but I don’t play internet ping-pong with Globalist propagandists!

The readers here can decide for themselves what to believe. From what I’ve seen most do that quite well!
 

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The Irish Army used to do the same. I once worked with a guy that was given the ultimatum ~ Either sign up or go to jail ~ He signed up.
fr Celery used to appear in court for some young lads and state he got Jim B------- horse trainer to take him .
The judges knew this route to salvation was not easy but likely to succeed .
jockeys are harder than jailbirds and less forgiving .
i have heard of how and what animal was used to put manners and to give focus to young lads this animal never failed and ate the clothes of some of them when left in their company overnight .
Jims daughter ran the lab and some horses were on nerve powder to make it possible to handle them -- if not administered the horse was a lunatic.
 

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So, shell shock is a separate phenomenon to combat stress but has similar symptoms. One would imagine that this extends to those under bombardment - in addition to the psychological stress of being in that environment there are also effects from the shock waves from the explosions. Thus populations under heavy bombardment will have large number of brain injured that are currently impossible to diagnose. These people will have profound mental and behavioural issues and will serve as a feeder population for extremism. Łobaczewski may have been on to something.
I worked briefly for hertz beside runway 3 heathrow where Concorde would take off beside me at 330 each day to Bahrain .
it was 166 decibels and my bodily organs shook in particular my area below the lungs .
we went to Granada ghias before the takeoff and people would knock on the windows as it was taking off and look for assistance --we did not dare unlock the car and our bodies vibrated inside the cars .
some of the customers left as they were unwell --there was no signs to warn them and people laughed it off --they would not do so today.
 

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If I were running Ukraine I would have retained about 5 billion dollars of the money donated.

I would buy nuclear dirty bomb material and if possible a nuclear warhead or more is they could be got. '

I would place it is Moscow and explode it all on December 23 rd.
i thought you were a self educated farmer who stimulated conversation with an alternative viewpoint .
your last post tells me you are unhinged .
i walked that town and caught trains to the suburbs --to endless blocks of flats like Ballymun --i watched people starve i saw the bodies after suicide .
I saw people sleeping in minus 34 -------cracks opening in their faces --no blood just white material open wounds -----wrapped in 5 or 6 coats 3-4 hats ---ropes to keep it all on .
they were victims of the Jewish oligarchs who with the help of the USA collapsed the ruble to one fifty second of its value in order to rob Russia properly .
you wish to bomb these innocent people and cause the end of life on this planet and time it to the birth of Christ .
you are completely mad --i would regret anyone leaving this site but you are unwell upstairs .
 

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i thought you were a self educated farmer who stimulated conversation with an alternative viewpoint .
your last post tells me you are unhinged .
i walked that town and caught trains to the suburbs --to endless blocks of flats like Ballymun --i watched people starve i saw the bodies after suicide .
I saw people sleeping in minus 34 -------cracks opening in their faces --no blood just white material open wounds -----wrapped in 5 or 6 coats 3-4 hats ---ropes to keep it all on .
they were victims of the Jewish oligarchs who with the help of the USA collapsed the ruble to one fifty second of its value in order to rob Russia properly .
you wish to bomb these innocent people and cause the end of life on this planet and time it to the birth of Christ .
you are completely mad --i would regret anyone leaving this site but you are unwell upstairs .
Well, he says that he has left.
 
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Old news.


Of course NATO trainers are going to learn from the feedback and then adjust for the new battlefields in Ukraine. There's still a huge pipeline for training.


It's a bit desperate to try big this up. But there you go.
 
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View: https://t.me/uniannet/117355


"A fighter of the Wagner PMC from the Krasnodar Territory accused the Kremlin dictator of leaving the Wagnerites crippled in battles with Ukraine to the mercy of fate: they have no work, no pension.

In his video message to Putin, the occupier clarified that he lost an eye at the front, another one had to be operated on, and Russia, as a country, did not give him anything.

" Deal with these problems! With medical, police, with everyone in general... We defended our country, atoned for guilt. Although we are prisoners, we are not prisoners! We are the most fair people. We will prove it to anyone, even you, bald, we will prove it “that we are respect and respect, “Wagner” is strength ,”

Tough shit, Vatnick.
 

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B I G territorial recapture by RU overnight.

Situation north of Bakhmut: #RussianArmy made significant advances south of Berhovske Reservoir and Yahidne/Ягідне thus aproaching to the road between Khromove/Хромове and Chasiv Yar/Часів Яр. This happened following the important withdrawal during the previous days of #UkrainianArmy towards more defensible positions. Moreover, is important to note Russian Army recaptured big part of the lost territory during Ukrainian counteroffensive last June.

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I would assume that the ukes do not have the men and are trying to shorten the line.
More or less. Seems to be a game of music chairs. Whoever's left holding the bag when the music stops gets FPV'ed. The bulk of AFU are dug in at Avdiivka and are beign reinforced from other areas at the expense of territorial loss in those areas.
 

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The unravelling has started and it’s obvious that the neocons have already decided to pull the plug and turn off the life support system of the Kiev regime:

Let’s summarize recent developments:

  • Zaluzhny’s aides are deleted, one by assassination
  • Large-scale new ‘house cleaning’ of entire general staff is reportedly announced from Zelensky’s side
  • Major media campaigns from both sides push urgent narratives of stalemates, Zaluzhny implying the war will be lost, and an eye-opening exposé on a ‘isolated’ and ‘messianic’ Fuhrer-bunker version of Zelensky
  • Zelensky suddenly cancels presidential elections, likely sussing the plan to promote Zaluzhny as challenger
  • Money spigot has still been turned off for the foreseeable future, with no realistic plans on horizon at the moment
  • Ukraine now catastrophically losing on virtually every front of the war, set to soon lose another major, strategically critical city
  • Many influential voices like Arestovich now openly push ceasefire
  • The ‘grim reaper’ CIA director set to pay visit, which only happens on eve of some major pivot or escalation. Diplomats and Foreign Secretaries are sent to ‘discuss options’ or ‘negotiate’—CIA directors are sent to deliver final threats of action


logically speaking, the only possible explanation I can see making sense is that Zaluzhny is being chosen to sell the ceasefire to the people. Such a thing would sound more acceptable from the standpoint of a military leader and strategist who can explain that the situation is hopeless without time to recover and replenish the forces with an armistice. And more importantly, to sell it to the troops.

 

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The unravelling has started and it’s obvious that the neocons have already decided to pull the plug and turn off the life support system of the Kiev regime:






Israel and Gaza = = Great Bait and Switch.
 

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The unravelling has started and it’s obvious that the neocons have already decided to pull the plug and turn off the life support system of the Kiev regime:






We could be rid of all 4 within about 2 weeks
 
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The unravelling has started and it’s obvious that the neocons have already decided to pull the plug and turn off the life support system of the Kiev regime:


It would not surprise me if Zelensky has a "mysterious" death. There must be senior people on the "Ukrainian" side who have come to see him as a serious liability.
 

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It would not surprise me if Zelensky has a "mysterious" death. There must be senior people on the "Ukrainian" side who have come to see him as a serious liability.
Yep, he needs to be careful when crossing the road and avoid getting in the way of any stray bullets that might just happen to be passing by.
 

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