Ukraine.

A US Secret Service agent who wished to remain anonymous has revealed to DCWeekly details about the arrangements being made for Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s relocation to the United States. The agent claims that the Biden administration has issued orders to ensure the safety and accommodation of President Zelensky’s family starting in the spring of 2024. This decision is based on the belief that Zelensky’s presidency in Ukraine may conclude next year, and remaining in Ukraine thereafter could pose security risks.



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As long as it is not Dedham.
 
SeekTheFairLand said:
A US Secret Service agent who wished to remain anonymous has revealed to DCWeekly details about the arrangements being made for Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s relocation to the United States. The agent claims that the Biden administration has issued orders to ensure the safety and accommodation of President Zelensky’s family starting in the spring of 2024. This decision is based on the belief that Zelensky’s presidency in Ukraine may conclude next year, and remaining in Ukraine thereafter could pose security risks.



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"who wished to remain anonymous"
That's priceless!
 
What a laugh, talking about bribing. Maybe Hunter will give bach the 50g a month.
 
Kangal said:
The huge numbers of Russian POWs taken in the last 4 months have clearly forced a change in Russian government policy.


View: https://twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1730995203341795683?t=f377OXyltZHOV6QoCaEJ0Q&s=19
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Desertions are way up too.

www.rferl.org

'The Only Option': To Escape War In Ukraine, More Russian Soldiers Are Deserting

A growing number of Russian soldiers have deserted their military units in Ukraine. Independent news outlet Mediazone has reported that 2,076 criminal cases were opened in the first half of 2023 against Russian soldiers accused of abandoning their units without leave.
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Kangal said:
Desertions are way up too.

www.rferl.org

'The Only Option': To Escape War In Ukraine, More Russian Soldiers Are Deserting

A growing number of Russian soldiers have deserted their military units in Ukraine. Independent news outlet Mediazone has reported that 2,076 criminal cases were opened in the first half of 2023 against Russian soldiers accused of abandoning their units without leave.
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Nobody knows or cares who this person is.

This isn't a source. It's an opinion piece by some random.
 
Kangal said:
...because, man for man, they are better than the Russians.


View: https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1730901430658035828?t=P8pmrGSdnq9RkiOQpAaYyw&s=19

That's why the Russians are resorting to war crimes...its utter desperation and fear on their part.

www.wsj.com

Russian POWs Describe ‘Nightmare’ of Combat in Ukraine

Russian soldiers captured in the battle for Avdiivka tell of the high price their army is incurring for its grinding advance.
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Remind us, just how much closer to the gates of Moscow are the Ukies than they were six months ago?
 
From day one, it was impossible almost to see how Ukraine could win. It was always about using up ukes, to reduce Russia. Which from the Wests viewpoint, was an excellent strategy.
The failure in the plan was that the sanctions and other economic attacks completely failed, and actually hurt Europe.

The actual capitulation upcoming will be fascinating to observe.
 
Declan said:
From day one, it was impossible almost to see how Ukraine could win. It was always about using up ukes, to reduce Russia. Which from the Wests viewpoint, was an excellent strategy.
The failure in the plan was that the sanctions and other economic attacks completely failed, and actually hurt Europe.

The actual capitulation upcoming will be fascinating to observe.
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Perhaps America was quite happy to weaken the EU and even Europe.

Why would America want the EU or even Europe to be Too Strong ? !
 
That is one possibility a chara.

One many.

Maybe Putin just wanted to defeat NATO and set them up.

After all, this was never a war. He never carpet bombed say Kiev to rubble.

Maybe a case of.

The only thing better that a dead nazi in Kiev is a subsidized nazi in Killybegs
 
Kangal said:
Pathetic. How many Russians died for this again?
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Not as many as will die in the future by the look of things. As the war drags on there will be mass deaths on all sides.
Of course it's really about Russia getting prepared to stand up to Nato countries and the SMO is just a warm-up for the escalation to come in the new year or next, that is if Nato decides upon a full on invasion or nuke strike then Russia's must be ready to give all it's got.
 
Professor said:
Not as many as will die in the future by the look of things. As the war drags on there will be mass deaths on all sides.
Of course it's really about Russia getting prepared to stand up to Nato countries and the SMO is just a warm-up for the escalation to come in the new year or next, that is if Nato decides upon a full on invasion or nuke strike then Russia's must be ready to give all it's got.
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Or a simple message to everyone.
Don't fight proxy wars on behalf of other's.
You're disposable pawns.
 
Kangal said:
Pathetic. How many Russians died for this again?


View: https://twitter.com/War_Mapper/status/1731460344017563879?t=7DISM0Ow0aDxeqmljHyxYg&s=19
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Over the month of November, Russia expanded the territory it controls in Ukraine by approximately 4 km².

In other words the great spring/summer/forever counter attack has failed miserably with Russia actually consolidating its position.

Russia was not the one on the offensive, yet it has still gained ground, that makes Ukraine look very pathetic indeed.
 
Mad as Fish said:
Over the month of November, Russia expanded the territory it controls in Ukraine by approximately 4 km².

In other words the great spring/summer/forever counter attack has failed miserably with Russia actually consolidating its position.

Russia was not the one on the offensive, yet it has still gained ground, that makes Ukraine look very pathetic indeed.
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The flip side of that great achievement.
It's not much bigger than the phoenix park.
 
Professor said:
Not as many as will die in the future by the look of things. As the war drags on there will be mass deaths on all sides.
Of course it's really about Russia getting prepared to stand up to Nato countries and the SMO is just a warm-up for the escalation to come in the new year or next, that is if Nato decides upon a full on invasion or nuke strike then Russia's must be ready to give all it's got.
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I'm not sure that we are going to see any great escalation from the Russian side, in many ways they have achieved a satisfactory set of objectives so there is little more to be gained.

NATO has exhausted itself and all the hi tech tomfoolery has been shown up as ineffective to a large extent. War is still a question of numbers and hi tech stuff is grand, but you still need a lot of it, and that hasn't changed one bit over the centuries.
 
Mad as Fish said:
I'm not sure that we are going to see any great escalation from the Russian side, in many ways they have achieved a satisfactory set of objectives so there is little more to be gained.
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The thing is though, there are 50+ other sides with their own objectives through which the Ukraine conflict can be used to deliver as yet unknown known's and a risk of unknown unknown's, you know?

When "escalation" is mentioned it's easy to see how Russia is open to attack along the lines of shipping, transportation and it's infrastructure - tunnels and bridges all over the country. There are probably bigger targets to be attacked, and by anonymous sources too . . .

Mad as Fish said:
NATO has exhausted itself and all the hi tech tomfoolery has been shown up as ineffective to a large extent. War is still a question of numbers and hi tech stuff is grand, but you still need a lot of it, and that hasn't changed one bit over the centuries.
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Fair enough as things stand but we really don't know Nato's full intentions and plans for the future, Perhaps at some stage they could loom much larger - Especially as the conflict spreads further beyond Ukraine's borders.
Perhaps at the moment all we're seeing are a few air bubbles popping gently on the surface of a cloudy pond . . .
 
Professor said:
The thing is though, there are 50+ other sides with their own objectives through which the Ukraine conflict can be used to deliver as yet unknown known's and a risk of unknown unknown's, you know?

When "escalation" is mentioned it's easy to see how Russia is open to attack along the lines of shipping, transportation and it's infrastructure - tunnels and bridges all over the country. There are probably bigger targets to be attacked, and by anonymous sources too . . .


Fair enough as things stand but we really don't know Nato's full intentions and plans for the future, Perhaps at some stage they could loom much larger - Especially as the conflict spreads further beyond Ukraine's borders.
Perhaps at the moment all we're seeing are a few air bubbles popping gently on the surface of a cloudy pond . . .
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I rather thought you had in mind the growth of the present conflict into a much larger war rather than its continuation through acts of terrorism, which would indeed hold the potential to draw other countries into the affair. However, I'm more of the opinion that a series of isolated incidents will be seen as attempts to settle scores by the west and its allies rather than a justifiable expression of grievances against Russia which require further military intervention by anyone, other than the disturbed minds of the Whitehouse that is.

NATO is a child of the US and so its plans are whatever the US decides. Russia has delivered it a bloody nose in Ukraine, which I doubt was the plan, and having thus frustrated the intentions of the US American policy makers, ie, the neocons, they have yet to come up with anything else.

Saving face will be the immediate concern and a large part of that will be trying to hide the fact that its arsenals are depleted and the hi tech ironmongery doesn't really work that well when exposed to real battlefield conditions. Neither of these points will be lost on other global players, China in particular, who will feel emboldened in the east.
 
Zitler is doing everything he can to prevent a coup. He knows he smells like death.



www.pravda.com.ua

Зеленський спілкується з деякими командувачами в обхід Залужного – джерела УП

За інформацією від джерел "Української правди" Верховний головнокомандувач Володимир Зеленський спілкується з деякими командувачами ЗСУ в обхід головкома Валерія Залужного, що заважає Залужному командувати всією армією.
www.pravda.com.ua www.pravda.com.ua
 
Fishalt said:
Why the counteroffensive failed:

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The NATO military advisors were clueless in other words, totally overdosing on their own propaganda and self confidence. If ever the Russians had tried to cross the Rhine at the heigt of the Cold War, they may well have walked it while the Nato forces argued over whether trailer couplings should be measured in mm or inches.
 
Fishalt said:
Zitler is doing everything he can to prevent a coup. He knows he smells like death.



www.pravda.com.ua

Зеленський спілкується з деякими командувачами в обхід Залужного – джерела УП

За інформацією від джерел "Української правди" Верховний головнокомандувач Володимир Зеленський спілкується з деякими командувачами ЗСУ в обхід головкома Валерія Залужного, що заважає Залужному командувати всією армією.
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I'm going to do a Myles here and ask WTF is that all about?
 
Declan said:

View: https://youtu.be/XHmePjyN4VI?si=nIHlGpSssr6RNRe3Paul
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It looks like the ukes are falling back. The Uke crossing of the river has turned out to be yet another disaster.

It is exactly 5 months since the hyped counteroffensive was launched and now it looks like a panicked retreat and collapse.
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It does seem a total balls up alright, as was mentioned, the crossing is nothing more than a PR exercise, put on for the likes of Jarry to boast about on social media.

Listening to this guy is hard work, so I skimmed forward a couple of times and picked up a couple of other nuggets, one of which is that the US appears to have abandoned Zelensky and is pushing a rival (can't remember the name, let alone spell it if I could) so the brat is having to watch his back and stick around, no more world tours for him.

Another is NATO promised unlimited help but failed to deliver, Stoltenberg is just talking the talk, but NATO Members have run out of resources and probably patience. My thoughts are that NATO totally miscalculated the strength in depth of the Russian army and glibly thought that it wouldn't take too much to defeat it, so the promise didn't seem a big one at the time. Another western cock up.

A third was that the top general fellow is now bypassed by Zelensky who talks to whichever officers are in favour, or are passing the door at the time. The result is total chaos without any disciplined chain of command, leaving officers having to guess as to which set of orders to follow. Zelensky is also ordering attacks and actions directly, which may account for supply issues as his pet projects are not properly planned, if any of the offensives are.

All in all, it sounds like total mayhem in Kiev, and is only kept going because America is propping it all up, for the time being.
 
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