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Message: <blockquote data-quote="A Man Called Charolais" data-source="post: 107960">This is very good, although at first appearances may seem a bit convoluted.  In pattern, it reminds me of when <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tYm41hb48o" target="_blank">William Lane Craig debated Christopher Hitchens.</a> While there is a lot of time in both videos (which is something of a drag) one can see sophisticated atheistic minds being shook. Boghossian, though, isn't routed as Hitchens was but is challenged in a way I haven't seen him before. Curious it should come from a carver and artist. The difference here is that Hitchens knows he's been rumbled as a letch (remember he was from a very British family of a very particular time) whereas Boghossian is intellectually convinced and discovers that his perspective isn't really as clever as thought.[MEDIA=youtube]M4ogbYbHkuY[/MEDIA] This would be for the confirmed atheists on the site rather than for casual consumption.  It has challenging content and pertinent insights.  Pageau is going to Pireaus on this one so believers should not be too alarmed.The Pageaus (both of the brothers) are very impressive.  They come from a Quebecois background, so there's a language hurdle - Jonathan's choice of the word care (for example) might otherwise be described as significance.  But there's something else in this choice of word that reflects a different culture - indeed - national sense, it's emotional emphasis that wouldn't be something that the drier anglophone academic world (<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0479647/" target="_blank">perhaps now of olde</a>) would find odd and extraneous.  This difference in dasein can be viewed in the embarrassing interlude, which I took as a reference precipitated by Boghossian's question on infidelity and Pageau's formulation of his potential response to it with his significant other (still a bullet but with empathy).  Boghossian's "world of possibility" interprets it lewdly within the context of the discussion, which points to a significant different in thematic engagement and customary milieu. It is not something that would occur to Pageau, and this points to the difference in engagement and, indeed, is indicative of the difference in the scope of the relational substrates perceived by both men.  The Christian perspective has a platonic potential whereas the modernist and postmodernist one has a collapsed structure (which gives a window on the current social movements of deep concern).  Now that's all very vague (and meant to be) but I can confirm that the prayers of Catholics are also answered, although perhaps not in a fabrication which collapses the field.  Didn't Jung have something to say on that Peter?</blockquote>

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