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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tiger" data-source="post: 137171" data-attributes="member: 353"><img src="https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTUzMTEyMDdkdG1wN2RlOWhmOGtwNXZtdWFjYXAwa3F5eW85d2szMXM2Z200cTNldyZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/hw8BtYaH9MHXMhkCyd/200.gif" alt="Oh No Omg GIF by The Steve Wilkos Show" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" />Firstly, you invoked fairytales to try and prove your point about what existed before time. Your argument was demolished and then you tried to backtrack and disown it.Secondly, what we are talking about here today is your claim that some YouTube videos that you posted have “exposed” Lennox’s position. Now you are backing away from that. You haven’t identified a single demonstrable falsehood from John Lennox—only interpretations you happen to disagree with. Lennox points to the Big Bang's implication of a space-time origin as support for a created universe. That’s a defensible position grounded in mainstream cosmology, not a "lie." If you want to refute it, do so by quoting an actual factual error—not by hurling insults or misrepresenting intent. Dismissing him as a “creationist carnie” isn’t a rebuttal—it’s just noise.As for invoking Roger Penrose’s Conformal Cyclic Cosmology (CCC) to sidestep the beginning of the universe—come on. That model has no empirical support, violates the second law of thermodynamics, and lacks a clear physical mechanism for its proposed cycles.Even Penrose himself has acknowledged the lack of observational confirmation and describes it as “hard to swallow”.You're substituting a data-backed model (Big Bang with inflation) for a mathematically elegant speculation that predicts nothing and explains little. So no, CCC doesn’t refute Lennox—it’s just wishful thinking.You communicate with emoji’s and ‘lol’s’ and child-like sneers. You have no degree James.</blockquote>

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