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<blockquote data-quote="Tiger" data-source="post: 142901" data-attributes="member: 353"><p>Dreary me....notice what you’ve just done there Jimmy: you’ve conceded that NDE’s <em>seem obvious to account for</em>, yet you’ve offered <strong>no actual account.</strong> That’s the tell. Classic Jimmy Dawson. Absolutely pathetic. </p><p></p><p>You wave them away as if their sheer consistency across cultures and medical contexts were a triviality, when in fact they are among the most significant data points challenging a purely materialist worldview. To say you feel no compulsion to address them is not an answer; it is an evasion.</p><p></p><p>And here is precisely where the difference lies between you, me, and Dawkins. I am certain that God exists because reason, lived experience, and phenomena like NDEs converge on that conclusion. Dawkins is certain He does not, because his prior commitment to materialism demands it. You, meanwhile, occupy a sort of intellectual halfway house; skeptical enough to dismiss evidence when it cuts against you, but unwilling to take the full Dawkins step of declaring it meaningless. </p><p></p><p>So the question stands: <strong>if consciousness is <em>only</em> brain activity, how do you explain verifiable perception during documented periods of clinical death?</strong> Until you give a substantive answer, you haven’t engaged the argument.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tiger, post: 142901, member: 353"] Dreary me....notice what you’ve just done there Jimmy: you’ve conceded that NDE’s [I]seem obvious to account for[/I], yet you’ve offered [B]no actual account.[/B] That’s the tell. Classic Jimmy Dawson. Absolutely pathetic. You wave them away as if their sheer consistency across cultures and medical contexts were a triviality, when in fact they are among the most significant data points challenging a purely materialist worldview. To say you feel no compulsion to address them is not an answer; it is an evasion. And here is precisely where the difference lies between you, me, and Dawkins. I am certain that God exists because reason, lived experience, and phenomena like NDEs converge on that conclusion. Dawkins is certain He does not, because his prior commitment to materialism demands it. You, meanwhile, occupy a sort of intellectual halfway house; skeptical enough to dismiss evidence when it cuts against you, but unwilling to take the full Dawkins step of declaring it meaningless. So the question stands: [B]if consciousness is [I]only[/I] brain activity, how do you explain verifiable perception during documented periods of clinical death?[/B] Until you give a substantive answer, you haven’t engaged the argument. [/QUOTE]
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