Artificial Intelligence ~ Artificial General Intelligence ~

Wolf

Well-known member
Member
Joined
Jan 13, 2023
Messages
8,905
Reaction score
8,007
David is trying to get banned.........again.:ROFLMAO:
 

Wolf

Well-known member
Member
Joined
Jan 13, 2023
Messages
8,905
Reaction score
8,007
The alcoholic is so pissed he can't see that I haven't deleted any of my posts.
Just quoting his scutter so he can't delete and the powers that be can see the disgusting drunken bastard he truly is.
 

Mad as Fish

Well-known member
Member
Joined
Jul 1, 2023
Messages
4,355
Reaction score
5,960
Quick intro as to how AI works. The chart breaks down the process and gives some insight as to how it arrives at the results it does.

AI chart.gif
 

Mad as Fish

Well-known member
Member
Joined
Jul 1, 2023
Messages
4,355
Reaction score
5,960
Serious questions are now being asked by serious players. It's behind a paywall but the gist is that Apple is being put on the spot re its responsibilities for generative AI -


Given that the technology is not up to scratch, is not anywhere near a Minimum Viable Product standard, and costs so much to train and then run, it is about time that investors start asking very hard questions.

"The resolution calls for the tech giant to prepare a “transparency report” on AI and to disclose any ethical guidelines it has adopted in a report on its website. The resolution says: “AI may be used in ways that violate the privacy of customers and members of the public.
“AI may be used to generate deep fake media content that may result in the dissemination of false information in political elections.”"


 
A

A Man Called Charolais

Guest
There's been a very significant lawsuit brought by Elon Musk against Altman et al about a breach of the mission of OpenAI due to its sequestering and monetization.

Basically, the lawsuit proposes that Altman and Microsoft have essentially stolen OpenAI through the subversion of its corporate governance, presumably with the belief (because they're "systemically important") that it will be overlooked.

There is also a claim, due to information and belief (reasonable inference from available information), that general artificial intelligence has already been achieved through a product called Q* (pronounced Q Star). That's a big deal as it will displace a large proportion of the developed world's workforce.

This lawsuit will lift the veil as testimony and cross examination plays out.

We'll see what happens but just a note here to indicate that this will be part of the news cycle in the coming months and years. The below video is an introduction to it so you know broadly what's happening. It may seem a bit tedious but it's worth a watch if you want to keep abreast.


 

Mad as Fish

Well-known member
Member
Joined
Jul 1, 2023
Messages
4,355
Reaction score
5,960
There's been a very significant lawsuit brought by Elon Musk against Altman et al about a breach of the mission of OpenAI due to its sequestering and monetization.

Basically, the lawsuit proposes that Altman and Microsoft have essentially stolen OpenAI through the subversion of its corporate governance, presumably with the belief (because they're "systemically important") that it will be overlooked.

There is also a claim, due to information and belief (reasonable inference from available information), that general artificial intelligence has already been achieved through a product called Q* (pronounced Q Star). That's a big deal as it will displace a large proportion of the developed world's workforce.

This lawsuit will lift the veil as testimony and cross examination plays out.

We'll see what happens but just a note here to indicate that this will be part of the news cycle in the coming months and years. The below video is an introduction to it so you know broadly what's happening. It may seem a bit tedious but it's worth a watch if you want to keep abreast.



Lost the thread of the arguments about half way through, but I am not sure that AI will replace humans. Musk and Altman might like to think that they have created a new species that will come to dominate the earth but they focus only on its intelligence, not its ability to maintain or service itself. For comparison, nature only developed intelligence, as we recognise it, in the latter stages of evolution (as far as we know). Up until then it was all about maintaining a state of living rather than conscious thought.

In other words I think they are taking a very black and white mechanistic view, and that is not how the world works.
 
A

A Man Called Charolais

Guest
Lost the thread of the arguments about half way through, but I am not sure that AI will replace humans. Musk and Altman might like to think that they have created a new species that will come to dominate the earth but they focus only on its intelligence, not its ability to maintain or service itself. For comparison, nature only developed intelligence, as we recognise it, in the latter stages of evolution (as far as we know). Up until then it was all about maintaining a state of living rather than conscious thought.

In other words I think they are taking a very black and white mechanistic view, and that is not how the world works.

Sorry about that. Below is a better video. It's not so much about AGI as the details of the lawsuit.






 
Last edited by a moderator:

Tiger

Well-known member
Member
Joined
Jun 14, 2023
Messages
2,580
Reaction score
2,454
Apparently 'Prompt Engineer' is now a job title for people who type words into AI Generators ... or as they would put it, “it is an occupational designation for humanoid citizens who input a complex system of syllables into a digital machine via a network of flesh digits” 😂😂
 
A

A Man Called Charolais

Guest
Altman and OpenAI returned fire to Musk's lawsuit. The immediate reaction is recorded in the video here. There seems to be a lot of information in it that would send Musk's legal team to the "Why You No" meme.

In any case, there are going to be very elite law firms engaged on both sides so there's bound to be a to and fro which is why I held my counsel. In the meantime, Musk has released the Grok AI open source code to the internet which is described in the below video.

Is it the democratisation of the potential of AI and a means to counteract the use of AI to dominate social/economic/power relations or is it the opening of a Pandora's Box?

Whichever it is, it seems significant. It's something like the development and roll-out of the internal combustion engine at the end of the C19th.


 
A

A Man Called Charolais

Guest
A sociologist's take on Google's AI snafu. It's good for 15 minutes anyway.





Joe Rogan is back to full podcasts on YouTube, which I welcome. He hasn't petered out and, in fact, has gotten stronger. A champ through and through. I think Jamie from Ohio is great too. Did you notice the undercurrent in the exchange between Haidt and Rogan as they discuss current nihilistic yet wistful mood? Called it way back.
 

Tiger

Well-known member
Member
Joined
Jun 14, 2023
Messages
2,580
Reaction score
2,454
A sociologist's take on Google's AI snafu. It's good for 15 minutes anyway.





Joe Rogan is back to full podcasts on YouTube, which I welcome. He hasn't petered out and, in fact, has gotten stronger. A champ through and through. I think Jamie from Ohio is great too. Did you notice the undercurrent in the exchange between Haidt and Rogan as they discuss current nihilistic yet wistful mood? Called it way back.

His interview with Ray Kurzweil the other day was interesting. Kurzweil came across as a dithering idiot
 
A

A Man Called Charolais

Guest
His interview with Ray Kurzweil the other day was interesting. Kurzweil came across as a dithering idiot

Jonathan Haidt still has a lot of important things to say but there's been something going on with him in the last couple of years.

The part of the conversation linked to here was to do with individual intelligence and cultural intelligence, I think it's a significant observation. What sort of cultural intelligence will be inculcated into AI? Will it be factional or civic? It seems that Google went factional in this effort.

In his main argument about the bounding youth, I think he misses the change in community structure brought about by fragmentation.

Children don't have siblings and cousins and aunts and uncles and families that have known each other for generations so it's a different landscape they're in. Mutual conscientiousness is more atomised now. The idea of sending an eleven year out in Manhattan in 2020, as if it was the 1950 mosaic, seems a bit odd and foolhardy. The mosaic may have had different communities but the point is that there were communities rather than a wasteland.

His point about flashers and perverts is another off-centre point of view, one that ignores drag queen story hour and school tour burlesque dancing etc. I think these have been mainstreamed as the protective pickets around society were dismantled by mass commodification.

We tend to think of culture as something associated with Lady Gregory and The Dubliners (so consider it of high worth) but there are some subcultures that organise their mores around sinister abusive goals. The decay of village perimeters and an active defense have allowed such ghouls to slip in.

In fact, if you actually observe many of the foreigners that have come to live in Ireland you can see that their obedience to the sort of patterns that we associate with a strong family and work ethic are often more firmly held than our own. That's not to say there aren't brigands amongst them but to despise someone simply because of their provenance is a foolish habit. No villain should be permitted to evade punishment by way of an appeal to race or religion or locality be it theirs or our own.

I think his idea about phone-free schools is an excellent one and wonder at the fact that it isn't already in force. They would never have been allowed "in my day" - it'd be a whooping.
 

Mad as Fish

Well-known member
Member
Joined
Jul 1, 2023
Messages
4,355
Reaction score
5,960
A US army chief is less than enthused about AI on the battlefield -


Even as the Pentagon makes big bets on big data and artificial intelligence, the Army’s software acquisition chief is raising a new warning that adversaries could “poison” the well of data from which AI drinks, subtly sabotaging algorithms the US will use in future conflicts.


An academic fellow I follow on Linkedin adds that the more he and his research students look at AI the less convinced they become about its abilities and general usefulness to the world.
 
Last edited:

clarke-connolly

Well-known member
Member
Joined
Feb 14, 2023
Messages
5,418
Reaction score
4,863
A US army chiefs is less than enthused about AI on the battlefield -


Even as the Pentagon makes big bets on big data and artificial intelligence, the Army’s software acquisition chief is raising a new warning that adversaries could “poison” the well of data from which AI drinks, subtly sabotaging algorithms the US will use in future conflicts.


An academic fellow I follow on Linkedin adds that the more he and his research students look at AI the less convinced they become about its abilities and general usefulness to the world.
With a bunch of Woke Lefties " " Teaching / Feeding / Programming " AI = = Shite In = = Shite Out ! !
 

Latest Threads

Popular Threads

Top Bottom