Ben Shapiro released a "Rap Song" a year or so ago.

[AN2]

He killed a bunch of normal kids on some Social Democratic summer camp type thing.

Workers' Youth League (Norway) - Wikipedia

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Even Leftists into all this "Critical Whiteness" waffle do not actually want to mass murder people racialized as White

Whatever the f*ck "racialized as White" means, who said that they did?

roc_ is NOT a Leftist for good or ill. You have actually people accusing him on P.ie of being a TUV Protestant Fundamentalist.

He denies being a Jew but regardless, roc is an anti-white. Profoundly

 

[AN2]

Even Leftists into all this "Critical Whiteness" waffle do not actually want to mass murder people racialized as White,

So, do you think that 'white genocide' must entail the killing of white people on a grand scale? Something that obviously isn't happening, to quote a black SA politician - at least for now?

that is not what they mean about "Abolishing Whiteness".

Do you think that 'abolishing whiteness' (which is rooted in race denial (a pernicious, anti-white lie) and 'anti-racism' <anti-racism is a code word for anti-white>) is a harmless, Marxist idea?

 

[AN2]

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Notice that @Mods vs Roc_ers liked this ^ post. Bizarro

Not only has he tried to deflect from him not believing that white people exist, therefore how could there be antiwhiteism, how could white people be genocided, they're not even human.. But he also apparently failed to notice the switcheroo he did..

So in the original post in the part about origins, he posted an anti-white - 'We is all black, innit' propaganda piece by the Guardian. Which he switched to I think a picture of that same book cover that @PlunkettsGhost has posted many times (in defence of the Irish being a "race")

Btw, roc believes all of the revisionist anti-white tripe that we're well used to by now. From the Cheddar Man hoax to negroes built the pyramids (We wuz Kangz n shieet)

 

[SwordOfStZip]

So, do you think that 'white genocide' must entail the killing of white people on a grand scale? Something that obviously isn't happening, to quote a black SA politician - at least for now?


Do you think that 'abolishing whiteness' (which is rooted in race denial (a pernicious, anti-white lie) and 'anti-racism' <anti-racism is a code word for anti-white>) is a harmless, Marxist idea?

Involuntary sterilizations would count. Let me ask you a question- Black Nationalists talked a lot in the 1980s and to a lesser extent in the 1990s about "Black Genocide", and you still can find easily enough people still doing so today, do you believe that there is Black Genocide being carried out in North America? If not why not?

Okay as regards anti-racism I don't think that racism is always sinful and I think sometimes things can also be both anti-racist and sinful. I prefer to stay away from those categories (though I am not always successful at that).

Caucasian is a Race in the Scientific/Medical sense but "White" is not. No I think the whole the "Abolishing Whiteness" thing makes a certain amount of sense within the context of North American Settler Colonial projects people have turned it into something a lot boarder so that it becomes very confusing as to what exactly they mean by "Whiteness" (I don't they really know themselves in a majority of cases) so besides being divisive it serves to do the opposite to clarifying. It is not therefore harmless.

The person who really started this was a Japanese North American with the book "Settlers- The Mythology of the White Proletariat" which was a Marxist work however I don't think the way "Whiteness" as a category is particularly Marxian.

Settlers: The Mythology of the White Proletariat - Wikipedia

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Settlers: The Mythology Of The White Proletariat from Mayflower to Modern : J. Sakai : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

A uniquely important book in the canon of the North American revolutionary left and anticolonial movements, Settlers was first published in the 1980s....

archive.org

Below is a debate between two Jewish Ultra-Leftists about whether the Zionist project is a Jewish Supremacy or a White Supremacy. At the end of it the one arguing that it is not a Jewish Supremacy at all but a White Supremacy says that the other does not understand what Whiteness is, but he never explains what Whiteness is!


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3PtduZP8MY

 

[AN2]

So, do you think that 'white genocide' must entail the killing of white people on a grand scale? Something that obviously isn't happening, to quote a black SA politician - at least for now?

Involuntary sterilizations would count.

Do you want to have another stab at answering the question?

Let me ask you a question- Black Nationalists talked a lot in the 1980s and to a lesser extent in the 1990s about "Black Genocide", and you still can find easily enough people still doing so today, do you believe that there is Black Genocide being carried out in North America? If not why not?

No but I don't really know what you're talking about

Okay as regards anti-racism I don't think that racism is always sinful and I think sometimes things can also be both anti-racist and sinful. I prefer to stay away from those categories (though I am not always successful at that).

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white

If you want to explain how it (anti-racism) is of any benefit to whites or indeed doesn't paint them, and only them, as the villain (racists) then I'm all ears

Caucasian is a Race in the Scientific/Medical sense but "White" is not.

No. White, when referring to race, refers to race. If you want to say that white people don't exist like your comrade roc does, then just say it

No I think the whole the "Abolishing Whiteness" thing makes a certain amount of sense within the context of North American Settler Colonial projects people have turned it into something a lot boarder so that it becomes very confusing as to what exactly they mean by "Whiteness" (I don't they really know themselves in a majority of cases) so besides being divisive it serves to do the opposite to clarifying. It is not therefore harmless.

The United States of America is not a colony, regardless of your anti-white Marxist seething

'Abolish whiteness' is a term coined by an anti-white Jewish race communist, Noel Ignatiev, who presumably is now rotting in hell

The person who really started this was a Japanese North American with the book "Settlers- The Mythology of the White Proletariat" which was a Marxist work however I don't think the way "Whiteness" as a category is particularly Marxian.

Settlers: The Mythology of the White Proletariat - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Settlers: The Mythology Of The White Proletariat from Mayflower to Modern : J. Sakai : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

A uniquely important book in the canon of the North American revolutionary left and anticolonial movements, Settlers was first published in the 1980s....

archive.org

Below is a debate between two Jewish Ultra-Leftists about whether the Zionist project is a Jewish Supremacy or a White Supremacy. At the end of it the one arguing that it is not a Jewish Supremacy at all but a White Supremacy says that the other does not understand what Whiteness is, but he never explains what Whiteness is!


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3PtduZP8MY

Israel is a Jewish (not to be confused with being an adherent of a religion) supremacist state. The Marxist fellow is right.

Of course, I really don't think that I'm a supremacist myself. I don't believe in whites having dominion over any other race and I don't believe in second class citizenry in white countries

I do believe that the people responsible for grossly vandalising Irish citizenship should be tried for treason and upon conviction executed

 

[AN2]

I assume you're aware he wasn't talking about abolishing whiteness in the terms you imply, rather Ignatiev talked only in terms of "whiteness" being a system of privilege?

... We do not hate you or anyone else for the color of her skin. What we hate is a system that confers privileges (and burdens) on people because of their color. It is not fair skin that makes people white; it is fair skin in a certain kind of society, one that attaches social importance to skin color. When we say we want to abolish the white race, we do not mean we want to exterminate people with fair skin. We mean that we want to do away with the social meaning of skin color, thereby abolishing the white race as a social category. Consider this parallel: To be against royalty does not mean wanting to kill the king. It means wanting to do away with crowns, thrones, titles, and the privileges attached to them. In our view, whiteness has a lot in common with royalty: they are both social formations that carry unearned advantages..."

So at least if you are going to try and make an argument against someone, do not misrepresent their argument.

Fat chance of that though. It's all you've ever got, Jambo.

As an aside, this is also the criteria in what some other idiot posted above. I.e. We're talking about an ideological viewpoint where 'whiteness' is defined through its connection to imperialism, colonialism, and racism. Taking this view, we Irish weren't even considered as "white", until we participated in the US and elsewhere in the humiliation and persecution of black people. So how do you square that circle if you're yabbering on about "Irish nationalism", saying it has something to do with us being "white" or pink or whatever?

lol You truly deserve the moniker - The Soapbox Dunce

Perhaps you missed the part (obviously you did because by your own admission - you don't listen to a word anyone else says) about me saying that 'abolish whiteness' is rooted in race denial and anti-racism

So, race denial, obviously, in that race is a 'social construct' (remember when you disastrously introduced Dawkins into this debate elsewhere and I posted a video of him (Dawkins) saying that that is, and I quote - nonsense). Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white

'Whiteness' is anti-white CRT (Critical Race Theory) garbage. Ignatiev was a Jewish anti-white race communist

 

[AN2]

I know what he means, eh, did

 

[AN2]

I have to say though, obviously roc has a very low IQ, but no matter how many times I tell him that - he's not complicated (and I'm in a permanent state of being eleventeen steps ahead of him).. He never seems to get it

 

[AN2]

buzzwords

That's all you ever really say moan about, you never actually address (or you divert from) the meaning of these (so-called) "buzzwords"

Low IQ

 

[SwordOfStZip]

That's all you ever really say moan about, you never actually address (or you divert from) the meaning of these (so-called) "buzzwords"

Low IQ

It is very possible that calling him "Low IQ" is more hurtful to him than if you called his mother a prostitute.

I don't think he is actually "Low IQ" as such however I will say that he willfully makes himself stupidier than he actually has by imprisoning his mind in tribal and ideological cages and that is before we get into psychological and emotional issues to do with hostility and senses of superiority and the needs felt for them, however even if you got rid of all that he still would not be as intelligent as he believes himself to be.

 

[AN2]

It is very possible that calling him "Low IQ" is more hurtful to him than if you called his mother a prostitute

I don't think he is actually "Low IQ" as such however I will say that willfully makes himself stupidier than he actually has by imprisoning his mind in tribal and ideological cages and that is before we get into psychological and emotional issues to do with hostility and senses of superiority and the needs felt for them,

however even if you got rid of all that he still would not be as intelligent as he believes himself to be.

None of them are

 

[AN2]

I doubt I was specifically referring to "Jambo nationalism" (as we might refer to US white supremacism filtered through his UK "influencers" and his clown-like attempts to import that into an Irish context etc.)

You're probably recalling something I said that was along the following lines:

"... this forum is particularly bad because it attracts a fringe population of semi-literate paranoids and shut-ins who seek admission to intellectual life by regurgitating conspiracies, slogans, dystopian ideologies, dogmas, mantras, that they find on-line.

Idiots who obviously have difficulty understanding the world as it actually works, who struggle to comprehend cause-and-effect

Hey, now that @Mods vs Roc_ers has been kicked out of Gaychat..

..and 109 other countries.. Where do you think he'll go?


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X4d438r4OxM

He can't go back to the other site (Gowl hates them there)

So where do you think the parasites Jews will go next..

I know! I know!


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HU0SZXcNNbY

 

[AN2]

You're a moron, Jimmy.

So why have I been told, repeatedly, and sometimes reluctantly, throughout my life, that I'm highly intelligent? (not to mention my immeasurable 200+ IQ)

Perhaps it's better to face fact, non?

Sure, that wouldn't stop me from calling you a moron, because you are one

You're getting as bad as that grey hairy balled compadre of yours who pretends to be this alluring conservative housewife to draw in gullible fuckwits like you on these boards - with pulling rabid discriminatory bullshit straight out of your hole.

Here I just made a post there on the immigration thread on "gaychat" in your name. Go have a look. I have only been taking a break, disengaging from it, post Christmas.

Also I have never had a problem with a personal genuine opinion. My problem has always been with bleating idiots and associated ideological propensities and susceptibilities and bullshit and associated toxic thoughtlessness.

I'll be back later...

Right now, it's bacon and eggs time

 

[AN2]

You're a moron, Jimmy. You're getting as bad as that grey hairy balled compadre of yours who pretends to be this alluring conservative housewife to draw in gullible fuckwits like you on these boards - with pulling rabid discriminatory bullshit straight out of your hole.

Here I just made a post there on the immigration thread on "gaychat" in your name. Go have a look. I have only been taking a break, disengaging from it, post Christmas.

Now roc, you and I both know that you were banned from Gaychat. What does (blatantly) lying about it tell us about you?

Do you want tell us what for?

Also I have never had a problem with a personal genuine opinion. My problem has always been with bleating idiots and associated ideological propensities and susceptibilities and bullshit and associated toxic thoughtlessness.

 

[AN2]

This has been explained to you before. You seem to have a mental faculty akin to a calculator or simple computer with very specialised functions that makes you good at things like memorising chess patterns and endless white supremacist memes. Anything outside of that and your mental performance is tragic.

Why roc, WHY?



If you can't answer then I'll open it to the floor

Why don't you take that up with that other tragic sap you had so much in common with, godsdog.

I really have nothing in common with Doggy. And he's one of those atheists who I chastise

View: https://medium.com/incerto/iq-is-largely-a-pseudoscientific-swindle-f131c101ba39


No doubt. Dan's poster of the month I see you are now.


I knew zilch about being banned from "gaychat". I logged in there now and see some 'fyi' about "Insulting, attacking, or abusing another member" in my messages. If you look at my post count you will see that it is 11,999. I decided not to go to 12K and logged off for good. I assume they noticed and then decided to give me a ban to keep their members happy.


Stating the unpalatable truth about someone, I guess, the usual.

Did you do a Gowl impression that went a little too far?

You realise that Gowl is (perma) banned from every site on Irish political fora because he's an insufferable, dumb asshole?

 

[AN2]

Why roc, WHY?

This has been explained to you before. You seem to have a mental faculty akin to a calculator or simple computer with very specialised functions that makes you good at things like memorising chess patterns and endless white supremacist memes. Anything outside of that and your mental performance is tragic.

Bzzt.. Wrong!

Wrong roc, wrong

Okay let's walk through it together..

What is this?

Let's take a step back first. We're in a queen and king versus two rooks and a king endgame, that's pretty drawy.. But what if white could trade one of the rooks for the black queen, then it's game over

So what's happened, white just moved Rh2 and it (the rook) is totally hanging, you can just take it, right?

Wrong! And you're smart roc, you know that wasn't no mouse slip, you know you can't take it..

You look at the board and you see the mate in one threat Ra1#, which is of course actually a very familiar pattern - the ladder mate, it's probably the first checkmating pattern we learn as kids.

Okay, so you're thinking, I can't take the rook (it's a trap), I can't ignore the mate in one, obviously, maybe I can buy some time with a check? But look at them, the checks, there must be at least seven.. but all of them aren't worth shit, your queen just gets gobbled, game over.

Okay darnit, you say to yourself, how about Qd4, now try to mate me whitey moving the rook to a1, I'll just take you. But it don't matter, white just moves Ra1+ anyway, forcing Qxa1, it's the same if you took the rook on h2, either way you're going to get Skewered! when white checks you next and then again, your king too far away to save your hapless queen

Can you see it? You're going to lose your queen for a rook. And rook and king versus a king is a won game for white.

Btw, if you can please tell me what chess pattern all of this is called then I'd like to know.

 

[AN2]

Why don't you take that up with that other tragic sap you had so much in common with, godsdog.


View: https://medium.com/incerto/iq-is-largely-a-pseudoscientific-swindle-f131c101ba39

What do you think of this hideous gammon? -


View: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/tF-HzxO_yM8

Do you think that half the population are below average intelligence?

What is average intelligence?

 

[clarke-connolly]

What do you think of this hideous gammon? -


View: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/tF-HzxO_yM8

Do you think that half the population are below average intelligence?

What is average intelligence?

And James O'Brien ain't exactly carrying a smart brain himself !

 

[AN2]

The question is how do you measure "intelligence"? I.e. What measurable attributes do you select that you are going to take as a proxy for "intelligence"?

The best measurement of intelligence we have is IQ

Questions around statistics are another question, and if we were to have a discuusion around that, in the context of trying to measure human attributes, and talking about "averages" in the same breath, then we would certainly be drawing some lessons from the era of Nazi race science.

I suppose with a normal distribution average and median are the same. Of course that can vary from population to population

Back to "intelligence" per se, well sure you might well have a series of tests that measure say how good a person is at taking a certain type of academic exam, or performing a general administrative duty, or quickly gaining a faculty in a certain type of number or geometry manipulation, and memorising certain patterns, as your proxy.

But in the context of this forum, and the type of person found on it, there are other aspects of "intelligence" that would be of a much more pertinent concern, aren't there. E.g.

The Radical Right Is Targeting Neurodivergent Groups - Rantt Media

Extremists have long targeted neurodivergent groups. Are they now more at risk? The answer isn't that simple.

rantt.com

Now let us say that in these attributes of neuro divergence taken as a proxy for intelligence, especially the characterisation of it, we find on average that the participants on this forum rate much higher than the general population?

So tell me, on the basis of this "average", are you now going to treat all members of the forum group the same, if you were to take some type of social or political initiative (even with the best of intentions)?

You see now how that feels, Jambo?

I don't really treat all members of any group the same.

Obviously what gets your goat is race realism and specifically that whites have a higher average IQ than blacks.

Of course, some people (hysterically) interpret this to say - all blacks are stupid, or even that all whites are more intelligent than all blacks (patently absurd).

If you look at the infographic below, you can see that nothing precludes a black person from having a higher IQ than the average white person (so > than half)

 

[AN2]

View: https://t.me/theAureusPress/16648

 

[SwordOfStZip]

Poor Jambo.

Check-mate Jambo, you're ill adapted for real life.

An aptitude for playing chess and tiddly winks doesn't cut it. (IRL)

Neither does sniffing the underwear of Japanese schoolgirls bought in a vending machine while you're tooting on cheap Dublin inner city soap bar.

You're out of moves. You have an inadequate model of reality. You have inadequate language. You've failed to get beyond the bottom rung of the ladder of causation in your reasoning.

You need to "replace" your Rom pack.

Bzzt... Poor Jambo.

Your problem with Jambo is that he is not essentially utterly emasculated like Kevin Parlon and Tom Mc Donald and you feel he should be.

 

[SwordOfStZip]

The best measurement of intelligence we have is IQ

Really? Ashkenazi Jews score significantly better on Verbal IQ than indigenous English and yet where are the Ashkenazi Jewish Shakespeare, Milton, Keats and Lionel Johnson? So obviously there are important things that it cannot measure.

 

[AN2]

Really? Ashkenazi Jews score significantly better on Verbal IQ than indigenous English

[citation needed]

and yet where are the Ashkenazi Jewish Shakespeare, Milton, Keats and Lionel Johnson?

Dunno, I can't speak Hebrew or Yiddish.. Mandarin, Arabic.. Pretty much all languages other than English

So obviously there are important things that it cannot measure.

Here's where your low IQ is showing

I said:

The best measurement of intelligence we have is IQ

You said:

There are important things that it cannot measure

It's low IQ (or at least poor reading comprehension) in the form of a rebuttal, because it isn't one

 

[AN2]

Your problem with Jambo is that he is not essentially utterly emasculated like Kevin Parlon and Tom Mc Donald and you feel he should be.

Is that the guy with the face tattoos?

I hope it was worth it.. to do crappy wigger rap with Ben Shapiro et al.

 

[AN2]

Why They Hate Churchill - Konstantin Kisin #wokeright


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AvJyG7Bln2s

 

[AN2]

Why They Hate Churchill - Konstantin Kisin #wokeright


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AvJyG7Bln2s

Should I have started a new thread

Btw, in my opinion, it's such incomprehensible babble from the slimey Jewish interloper that you can almost skip straight to the motive..

 

[AN2]

View: https://x.com/JamesPGoddard90/status/1886121421493178442

At least they're not speaking German

 

[clarke-connolly]

View: https://x.com/JamesPGoddard90/status/1886121421493178442

At least they're not speaking German

Islam on the Rise ~ ~ Maybe Islamic Country soon !

 

[SwordOfStZip]

Should I have started a new thread

Btw, in my opinion, it's such incomprehensible babble from the slimey Jewish interloper that you can almost skip straight to the motive..

I think there are several things going on there- what do you think though is the prime motive?

Also why can people not see just how slimey he is? His sliminess comes off him for me in waves.

 

[AN2]

I think there are several things going on there- what do you think though is the prime motive?

Also why can people not see just how slimey he is? His sliminess comes off him for me in waves.

I haven't watched the interview with Carlson and establishment stooge Piers Morgan but he (Kisin) knows his gammon. He took a short snippet from the interview relating to Churchill and started banging on about the 'Woke Right'

 

[AN2]

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

He's one sick Jew

 

[SwordOfStZip]

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Is that for real?