Catholic Prophecies of future disastrous times, and 'Communities' needing to be created to deal with it.

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Probably most people know that there are quite a few Protestant religions out there who think we are living in the 'End Times' and as such they think they are going to be explicitly rescued by God as part of the 'Rapture'. Actually they think they will be physically removed from earth somehow as part of this understanding of the 'End Times'.

Of course Catholics don't believe that at all, but quite a few serious Catholic thinkers, mystics, and commentators, actually do think we are in some sense in the 'End Times', or at least in a time analogous to that before Noah and the Flood. On that score notice that in Mount Mellary Grotto in Ireland a highly respected apparition is said to have occurred in 1985, where a Biblical scene was shown to two mystics, the scene being Noah creating the Ark before the Flood.

In any case as part of this thinking there has been a lot of talk in the last few years about special Marian Refuges being created or at least that there might be, in some sense, isolated Marian or Christian communities that might be created to survive some sort of calamity. An example of this kind of talk, and what is claimed to be Christian revelation, you can see in the talks and writings of Father Michel Rodrigue in Quebec, who came to prominence around Covid times. But these discussions have waxed and waned in the last few years, and by no means everybody believes that such a thing will happen, or that these communities would even be necessary.

Eddie Stones.png

However in the last week or so a highly respected figure in this kind of Catholic mystical space in Ireland, Eddie Stones, has weighed in with what sounds like a similar sort of concept. He was originally a butcher in Clara Co. Offaly, who was inspired later to up sticks and found a house of prayer, the Emmanuel House of Providence in Clonfert in Co. Galway. This is what he said just recently, beginning with a quote from a book on prophecy from Our Lady of Cuapa in Nicaragua:
"'But if you do not change, you will hasten the arrival of a Third World War'. And thats in that book from Cuapa, and of course we have it in Fatima, we have it everywhere. In other words if the people don't turn back to God, turn back to prayer, we are going to see disaster. And I believe that the Lord is already preparing us for that.

And I am going to share a revelation with you, a prophetic revelation that I have received in the last number of weeks. First of all, the first great revelation I received for Ireland was in Donegal, and the Lord showed me the Hill of Slane, and the heap of ashes on the Hill of Slane. And when the Lord spoke to my heart and said, 'rake the ashes and find the cinders, and rekindle the fire'. Now we all know that Archbishop Eamonn Martin rededicated Ireland to St Patrick on the Hill of Slane, and he lit the fire again symbolically.

In the last two weeks the Lord has revealed to me, and I could be wrong, that he wants us to build communities. Now that doesn't mean that we all go live together, but it means that you must become part of a community of people. This is serious because, this is where the people have to learn their faith, where people come together to pray. Where people come together to be taught, and so on.

But I think it is far more, I think it is where you are going to have to exercise your skills in providing for each other in times to come, food, clothing and everything else. Because Our Lady has said, we are going to go back (this is not to me now) as if in olden times. That we need communities of people, and I saw many many many dozens of communities of people, and each community providing for each other. So that to me is coming down the line, I don't know if I will live to see it but it will happen.

Ok, because we are so precious to Jesus. This is the key, we are precious. Every one of us is precious, and the Lord wants us to keep spreading the message, and Ireland is territory for great work at the moment, territory for evangelisation. You see the Nigerian priests and the different, the Indian priests coming into Ireland at the moment, and em, Romanians and so on. And they are coming in here because the Lord is sending them here, so that the faith will continue to spread in Ireland, and be sustained in some way. But we have to as a nation provide.

Now, says you, 'what's that all about?' The other morning when I woke I turned on my phone, and there was a French mystic called Martha Roban, or Marthe Robin as this called her. And I read her prophecy about France. And she said the people think that the faith is gone in France. But she says you only have to rake the surface, and you will find the ashes, and blow on the cinders. And here we are in Ireland, the same message we received in Ireland. And she said you have to build communities. Now this is over 50 years ago in France, that the Lord gave Marthe Robin the prophetic message that we are after receiving in Ireland in the last while. I was blown away by that, the exact same message, no difference, that we are receiving in Ireland.

Now I am quite sure that this message, this prophetic message, that the Lord has given me, and given others, that He gave in France, to Martha Robin, she is a, she suffered a Passion of Jesus every Friday, she suffered greatly. And I am quite sure that message is going out to other countries as well. A great call to re-evangelise, and to work together as communities, to spread the Gospel. Why? So that souls will be saved, that is the ultimate reason.

That is the prophecy I am giving you tonight. What is He saying? We have part of it fulfilled through that wonderful Archbishop of Armagh, thank God for him, but now the other part has to take place, we have to build communities, we have to start listening, the only part of people of prayer [sic, ?], part of what God is telling us. Now I don't know where this is going, I don't know how it is going to happen, I don't have a clue, but I am waiting for the Lord to speak again, to inspire us in what. Because you won't have phones from what I can gather, you won't have electricity, you won't have many things. So how do we provide for ourselves? Well the good news is, we remember that, the older ones of us in Ireland, most of us provided without electricity and water and all these things and we survived, and maybe we are going to go back to that. That's the way I see it."
( https://fb.watch/DGMg-EWHXy/ 11:50-.17:40.)

Possibly, although its a stretch, you could make the case that some of these Marian Refuges, if that is how one should interpret the above message, are already been created in Ireland, for example:

Loughloher.png

The Home of the Mother, founded by Father Rafael Alonso Reymundo, as "an International Public Association of Faithful of the Catholic Church with pontifical approval," is busy turning an old stately home in Ireland, Loughloher, a former ancillary building to the ancient St Mary's Abbey in Cahir in Co. Tipperary, into I think an explicit enough, Marian refuge.

Padraig Caughey.png

Padraig Caughey, a mystic from Belfast who runs www.motheofgod.com, has recently emigrated and is busy creating a home in Galicia in Northern Spain, for himself but I suspect also as a potential future Marian refuge, if needed.

Knock.png

Human Life International Ireland, the principal figure here being Patrick McCrystal, not long ago purchased a large premises in Knock which they are now doing up. Again this is not some stated or obvious Marian refuge, but taking into account the people involved, and the location!, I don't think it would be stretching things too much if we speculated on those lines.

Anyway what is the view of the good citizens of this parish, could that kind of calamity happen and should we somehow prepare for it?

by Brian Nugent, http://www.orwellianireland.com .
 
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Yes and yes. In practical terms, it's deer hunting season and we could salt and preserve some meat.
 
If you let this happen to your Country = = You deserve nothing better ? !
Generations of Irish Catholics went to their countries and educated them about our countries. The Catholic Church held out a begging bowl for these people every year, even though Irish children may have been dressed in rags, so as to put these people on their feet. The Catholic Pope tells us that we must welcome these people to our countries.
 
Ok, because we are so precious to Jesus. This is the key, we are precious. Every one of us is precious, and the Lord wants us to keep spreading the message, and Ireland is territory for great work at the moment, territory for evangelisation. You see the Nigerian priests and the different, the Indian priests coming into Ireland at the moment, and em, Romanians and so on. And they are coming in here because the Lord is sending them here, so that the faith will continue to spread in Ireland, and be sustained in some way. But we have to as a nation provide.

Catholic mysticism today.. God is sending us migrants. Praise Jesus, the Catholic religion in Ireland can be saved even if its people are replaced.
How about the Nigerian and Indians stay the fuck at home and leave Ireland alone?
 
Thats only a reference to priests though, he is not talking about migrants in general, I don't think anyway.
 
Generations of Irish Catholics went to their countries and educated them about our countries. The Catholic Church held out a begging bowl for these people every year, even though Irish children may have been dressed in rags, so as to put these people on their feet. The Catholic Pope tells us that we must welcome these people to our countries.
I'm a religion ( Christian religion ) in moderation fella myself = = I'd be well up for telling even the Pope, to go fuck himself if I thought he was out of line !
 
I'm a religion ( Christian religion ) in moderation fella myself = = I'd be well up for telling even the Pope, to go fuck himself if I thought he was out of line !
Probably does already, the old convent joke springs to mind - lights out at ten, candles out at eleven.
 
James isn’t Irish. He won’t understand your post.
You've said that I agree 95% with @Diarmuid

I think both of you are fucken fruitcakes. Diarmuid may be at least a little bit nationalist, unlike you
 
Creating communities in apocalyptic times is an interesting concept and a recent example comes from 1970's New York where biker gangs became biker communities as the city crumbled around them.


View: https://youtu.be/f43KJcSgvss
 
Yes it is, but hard to see how it is done. At least when people go to the various protests, you should try to get to know people at it because possibly such contacts might be important in the future.
 
Yes it is, but hard to see how it is done. At least when people go to the various protests, you should try to get to know people at it because possibly such contacts might be important in the future.
I got the impression from the video that as law and order crumbled biker gangs filled the role of law enforcers, their law that is, and it became an even more violent place. The Hells Angels/Outlaws became part of the apocalypse, but there was also the emergence of other groups of bikers who were out to support each other as a biking brotherhood and it is these groups who formed the self help communities which bear a resemblance to those that you refer to in the OP.

The overall message being that communities will emerge from the ruins rather than be arranged before the hammer falls.
 
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Its just a summary of threads that you see coming from modern Catholic mystics. That if people don't return to God there will be some cataclism, like WW3 maybe, and Eddie Stones there is saying that God is preparing people for the day after that, as it were, when you won't have electricity for example.
 
Its just a summary of threads that you see coming from modern Catholic mystics. That if people don't return to God there will be some cataclism, like WW3 maybe, and Eddie Stones there is saying that God is preparing people for the day after that, as it were, when you won't have electricity for example.
Have you ever considered that you have a very self-centred view of the world? 🤔
 
Okay, what do you mean by return to God?
Obviously @scolairebocht doesn't take questions but I'm genuinely curious as to what "return to God" means, in order to avoid a cataclism or WW3 which, as the name suggests, affects everybody. Do Hindus have to return to God? Moslems? Protestants? 🤔
 
No they don't worship Our God. Start abiding by the 10 Commandments, praying Christian prayers and seeking the sacraments, like confession etc, a return to that is what he is referring to I believe.
 
No they don't worship Our God. Start abiding by the 10 Commandments, praying Christian prayers and seeking the sacraments, like confession etc, a return to that is what he is referring to I believe.
I still don't get it, who are you talking about?
 
God? And before you ask the next question, 'how do you know there is a God', I am way ahead of you, there is a whole book here to answer all your queries! http://www.orwellianireland.com/proofs.pdf .
I can't ask a next question because we haven't finished with my last one

No, by "who", I didn't mean God. I was asking you who has to "return to God" (in order to avoid the cataclism), could you be a little specific?
 
Okay, but that's why I asked you does it apply to other religious people and I thought that you said No, because they don't worship "Our God". So you're saying that people of other faiths need to convert to Catholicism (in order to avoid the apocalypse)?
Well I guess we'll never know who exactly "everybody" is. I'd ask @Tiger to help but he's never been known to answer a question

God? And before you ask the next question, 'how do you know there is a God', I am way ahead of you, there is a whole book here to answer all your queries! http://www.orwellianireland.com/proofs.pdf .
This is actually somewhat related. Your premise for the Open Letter to Atheists thread was - Here's the proof for God (of course, there's no such thing), what have you atheists got to say about it?

Although it was like getting blood from a stone, you did finally acknowledge that it was a "proof" for your God. Which is why I asked - Why is it a letter to atheists, and not everyone who doesn't believe in your God, which is most of the human population of the planet (and all of the other animals)
 
So help me God, eh, Snitch?
^ This is what he brings to the discussion in every thread, folks

The @mods never do anything about it (no matter how obvious/much it's pointed out to "them")
 
Just pointing out how you were going to get me "so help me God" according to yourself, Snitch.
Remember?
A so called 'atheist'....... :ROFLMAO:
You remind me of @Tiger and his 50-50 endless stupidity, a dog with a bone (except dogs are more intelligent than both of you)
 
Why is it a letter to atheists, and not everyone who doesn't believe in your God

A trivial and timewasting question. Are you a bot?

There is lavish proof of God. Have any of you ever so clever atheist whingers refuted the entire book of proofs Scolairebocht has helpfully assembled for you?

May I make a joke? If you're an atheist does that mean you believe in the moon landings?
 
A trivial and timewasting question. Are you a bot?
Nice ironic juxtaposition there, well done

There is lavish proof of God.
No, I'm afraid there isn't. Sorry

Have any of you ever so clever atheist whingers
What am I "whinging" about? Whinging is much more popular with theists if you ask me, they never stop whinging about atheism

refuted the entire book of proofs Scolairebocht has helpfully assembled for you?
The point I was making, at the risk of repeating myself, was that his proof, which it isn't, for his God, should be a challenge for atheists and other religious people alike. Do you follow? If, for example, a Hindu accepted @scolairebocht's proof of God, they wouldn't be a Hindu, they'd be a Catholic, do you follow?

May I make a joke? If you're an atheist does that mean you believe in the moon landings?
I don't believe in anything because I'm an atheist, the literal definition of atheism is not believing in something. Any more stupid questions? 🤔
 
A trivial and timewasting question. Are you a bot?

There is lavish proof of God. Have any of you ever so clever atheist whingers refuted the entire book of proofs Scolairebocht has helpfully assembled for you?

May I make a joke? If you're an atheist does that mean you believe in the moon landings?
I would suggest that there is lavish proof that we have only the fainstest grasp of how this universe around us functions, which is not to say there isn't a god, just that there are various mechanisms by which we might try to understand it, believing in God being one of them. It may well be correct, but as yet I am not convinced, does that make me an aethiest?
 
I would suggest that there is lavish proof that we have only the fainstest grasp of how this universe around us functions, which is not to say there isn't a god, just that there are various mechanisms by which we might try to understand it, believing in God being one of them. It may well be correct, but as yet I am not convinced, does that make me an aethiest?
Feel comfortable, heck, confident in your position friend..

Post in thread 'An Open Letter to Atheists' https://www.sarsfieldsvirtualpub.com/threads/an-open-letter-to-atheists.710/post-137678
 
Probably most people know that there are quite a few Protestant religions out there who think we are living in the 'End Times' and as such they think they are going to be explicitly rescued by God as part of the 'Rapture'. Actually they think they will be physically removed from earth somehow as part of this understanding of the 'End Times'.

Of course Catholics don't believe that at all, but quite a few serious Catholic thinkers, mystics, and commentators, actually do think we are in some sense in the 'End Times', or at least in a time analogous to that before Noah and the Flood. On that score notice that in Mount Mellary Grotto in Ireland a highly respected apparition is said to have occurred in 1985, where a Biblical scene was shown to two mystics, the scene being Noah creating the Ark before the Flood.

In any case as part of this thinking there has been a lot of talk in the last few years about special Marian Refuges being created or at least that there might be, in some sense, isolated Marian or Christian communities that might be created to survive some sort of calamity. An example of this kind of talk, and what is claimed to be Christian revelation, you can see in the talks and writings of Father Michel Rodrigue in Quebec, who came to prominence around Covid times. But these discussions have waxed and waned in the last few years, and by no means everybody believes that such a thing will happen, or that these communities would even be necessary.

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However in the last week or so a highly respected figure in this kind of Catholic mystical space in Ireland, Eddie Stones, has weighed in with what sounds like a similar sort of concept. He was originally a butcher in Clara Co. Offaly, who was inspired later to up sticks and found a house of prayer, the Emmanuel House of Providence in Clonfert in Co. Galway. This is what he said just recently, beginning with a quote from a book on prophecy from Our Lady of Cuapa in Nicaragua:


Possibly, although its a stretch, you could make the case that some of these Marian Refuges, if that is how one should interpret the above message, are already been created in Ireland, for example:

View attachment 8467
The Home of the Mother, founded by Father Rafael Alonso Reymundo, as "an International Public Association of Faithful of the Catholic Church with pontifical approval," is busy turning an old stately home in Ireland, Loughloher, a former ancillary building to the ancient St Mary's Abbey in Cahir in Co. Tipperary, into I think an explicit enough, Marian refuge.

View attachment 8468
Padraig Caughey, a mystic from Belfast who runs www.motheofgod.com, has recently emigrated and is busy creating a home in Galicia in Northern Spain, for himself but I suspect also as a potential future Marian refuge, if needed.

View attachment 8469
Human Life International Ireland, the principal figure here being Patrick McCrystal, not long ago purchased a large premises in Knock which they are now doing up. Again this is not some stated or obvious Marian refuge, but taking into account the people involved, and the location!, I don't think it would be stretching things too much if we speculated on those lines.

Anyway what is the view of the good citizens of this parish, could that kind of calamity happen and should we somehow prepare for it?

by Brian Nugent, http://www.orwellianireland.com .
 
Ive being saying for the last few years that we are not getting the full minute as in the 24 hr. clock. I remember listening to Gaybo in the late 60s, he had a man on saying that time ,as we understand it was speeding up ,he also said that people in the future wont be fighting with bullets ,but with sticks
 

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