Could Iran v Israel turn nuclear? A possible indication from the Occult/Masonic world

[Mad as Fish]

If so, Iran is snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

If Iran suceeds in putting some manners on Israel and the US that will surely be seen as a victory by the rest of the world I would have thought.

 

[Declan]

Not really, it means that Iran will be pounded more efficiently in two years by a million drones

 

[Mad as Fish]

So ok what do people think, how will this end? Trump, for one, is hyping this war up enormously, it will be over yesterday with a US victory according to him and yet I don't how they achieve that? So scenarios:

- The US/Israel wins the war with airpower alone. That almost never happened in history (although the recent Venezuela operation might be an example) and it doesn't look at all likely that Iran is about to throw up a white flag soon? Remember only a small proportion of Iranian missiles have to hit home in the builtup modern cities of Israel and the Gulf states, for them to hurt much more than Iran, which is simply protected by its size. (For example, by my crude calculations, Israel, admittedly minus the West Bank, is only about 10 miles across at its narrowest point, and Iran at its narrowest point is about 500 miles wide! Its bound to be the case in an artillery duel, which this is, that that small country would lose out.)

- The US launches a ground invasion, maybe beginning with an incursion via the Kurds in Iraq. They are certainly talking about and leaking that now, but that doesn't make it very easy. Iran fought a huge war along that frontier with Iraq not that long ago, they will know all the mountain passes (a lot of it is mountainous in the Kurdish region) and they are well capable of throwing up a few artillery shells to stop that, and are reported to be doing that already.
That said the US has some gigantic military assets to use if it did come to a ground invasion, helicopter gunships etc etc, it is possible they could prevail quickly, or at least destabilise Iran?

- Israel gives up and sues for peace and is taken over by some multinational military mission? That's not impossible, they look very extended and they could easily just lose in Lebanon say and hurt too much under Iranian bombardment.

- Either side uses nuclear weapons. For Israel or the US to use them now looks catastrophic for their world standing, because they said that was the reason for attacking Iran in the first place, but maybe if they got desperate (and Trump sounds a bit like that now)? If Iran used it now its possible they would actually have some international sympathy.

- A huge worldwide recession is sparked off by this crisis, with its effect on the petrodollar etc etc. If the powers that be had planned this recession before then they could use this crisis as an excuse to kick it off, meaning instead of blaming central banks you have Iran as a scapegoat?

Anyway what do people think?

I fail to understand how a country can be considered conquered without some sort of occupying force. To all intents and purposes it appears that America is expecting the internal opposition to rise up and replace the present regime, with America being granted the privilage of selecting the next president!

 

[Mad as Fish]

America's stratagy appears to be to continue killing Iranian leaders until it gets one it likes -

US President Donald Trump on Sunday said that the new supreme leader of Iran “is not going to last long” without his approval as reports suggest that Tehran has picked its next leader following Ayatollah Khamenei’s death.

US-Israel vs Iran War News LIVE Updates: Iran names Khamenei’s son, Mojtaba, as new supreme leader, state media reports

US Israel Iran War News Live Updates: At least 1 Indian national killed, others injured after a military projectile struck residential building, Saudi Arabia govt said on Sunday.

indianexpress.com

I should think this is unprecedented and defies all rules of humane and civilised conduct. I am sure there is some sort of established principe that countries at war do not go assassinating the leader of the enemy, but I can't recall what it is referred to as.

 

[clarke-connolly]

In fairness ~ I am in favour of killing People that I don't like ! ! !

I most probably wouldn't do it, unless I was in, what I considered a War Situation !

And had the kind of Fire-Power necessary ! ! !

 

[Declan]

 

[Declan]

Looks like my video was yet again, another bullseye.


I should be charging ye an ounce of silver yearly(joke)

 

[Diarmuid]

The last war was 12 days. Hopefully this war will be over soon. MSM reporting Israeli strikes in Iran, not US. Also lots of Iranian attacks on Gulf states, not Israel.

On offguardian site, good article looking at globalist links to Iranian govt. They are members of the IMF, for example, and they were all in with Covid - they took a 5 billion IMF loan to help. Plus lots of US contact with Ayatollah Khomeini while he was in exile before the overthrow of the Shah.

MSM are pushing oil price rises, with a view to bringing in economic recession and general panic, etc.

Meanwhile, the leaves are starting to grow on the trees. Spring is here

 

[Perry]

So ok what do people think, how will this end? Trump, for one, is hyping this war up enormously, it will be over yesterday with a US victory according to him and yet I don't how they achieve that? So scenarios:

- The US/Israel wins the war with airpower alone. That almost never happened in history (although the recent Venezuela operation might be an example) and it doesn't look at all likely that Iran is about to throw up a white flag soon? Remember only a small proportion of Iranian missiles have to hit home in the builtup modern cities of Israel and the Gulf states, for them to hurt much more than Iran, which is simply protected by its size. (For example, by my crude calculations, Israel, admittedly minus the West Bank, is only about 10 miles across at its narrowest point, and Iran at its narrowest point is about 500 miles wide! Its bound to be the case in an artillery duel, which this is, that that small country would lose out.)

- The US launches a ground invasion, maybe beginning with an incursion via the Kurds in Iraq. They are certainly talking about and leaking that now, but that doesn't make it very easy. Iran fought a huge war along that frontier with Iraq not that long ago, they will know all the mountain passes (a lot of it is mountainous in the Kurdish region) and they are well capable of throwing up a few artillery shells to stop that, and are reported to be doing that already.
That said the US has some gigantic military assets to use if it did come to a ground invasion, helicopter gunships etc etc, it is possible they could prevail quickly, or at least destabilise Iran?

- Israel gives up and sues for peace and is taken over by some multinational military mission? That's not impossible, they look very extended and they could easily just lose in Lebanon say and hurt too much under Iranian bombardment.

- Either side uses nuclear weapons. For Israel or the US to use them now looks catastrophic for their world standing, because they said that was the reason for attacking Iran in the first place, but maybe if they got desperate (and Trump sounds a bit like that now)? If Iran used it now its possible they would actually have some international sympathy.

- A huge worldwide recession is sparked off by this crisis, with its effect on the petrodollar etc etc. If the powers that be had planned this recession before then they could use this crisis as an excuse to kick it off, meaning instead of blaming central banks you have Iran as a scapegoat?

Anyway what do people think?

A fudge will be dreamed up. All Iran has to do is keep the straits shut. The pressure on the US to declare some kind of victory and withdraw will be immense if this goes on for weeks, especially if Iran allows Chinese exports to safely pass through while the EU barely keeps the lights on, and inflation goes through the roof in the US. Worst case scenario, Trump uses a nuke, justifying it in his own head that it was necessary for peace.

 

[Mad as Fish]

A fudge will be dreamed up. All Iran has to do is keep the straits shut. The pressure on the US to declare some kind of victory and withdraw will be immense if this goes on for weeks, especially if Iran allows Chinese exports to safely pass through while the EU barely keeps the lights on, and inflation goes through the roof in the US. Worst case scenario, Trump uses a nuke, justifying it in his own head that it was necessary for peace.

Sanctions by threatening to sink ships tend to be a little more effective than endless red tape, the method preferred by the EU.

 

[Declan]

The last war was 12 days. Hopefully this war will be over soon. MSM reporting Israeli strikes in Iran, not US. Also lots of Iranian attacks on Gulf states, not Israel.

On offguardian site, good article looking at globalist links to Iranian govt. They are members of the IMF, for example, and they were all in with Covid - they took a 5 billion IMF loan to help. Plus lots of US contact with Ayatollah Khomeini while he was in exile before the overthrow of the Shah.

MSM are pushing oil price rises, with a view to bringing in economic recession and general panic, etc.

Meanwhile, the leaves are starting to grow on the trees. Spring is here

Very possible. Brendon O Connell the Aussie, believes the Agenda is to end up with Iran and Italy bordering and both powerful, everything between, gobbled up.

I am having that moment when a Faithful finally clicks who the Traitor is

 

[scolairebocht]

Craig Murray, the former British ambassador to Uzbekistan is hinting he believes Israel will use a nuclear weapon soon:
View: https://x.com/CraigMurrayOrg/status/2030787432505856359
and George Galloway, the well known former Scottish MP, and sometime presenter on Iranian TV, has just interviewed a retired US Army Lieut Colonel who is certain that the US/Israel will use such a thing 'in the coming days':
View: https://x.com/_ZachFoster/status/2030843781226901828?s=20

 

[jpc]

Craig Murray, the former British ambassador to Uzbekistan is hinting he believes Israel will use a nuclear weapon soon:
View: https://x.com/CraigMurrayOrg/status/2030787432505856359
and George Galloway, the well known former Scottish MP, and sometime presenter on Iranian TV, has just interviewed a retired US Army Lieut Colonel who is certain that the US/Israel will use such a thing 'in the coming days':
View: https://x.com/_ZachFoster/status/2030843781226901828?s=20

It seems that the western masses are being conditioned for such an atrocity.
This is a dreadful soulless time.

 

[Declan]

I expect to be doing a video today

 

[Wolf]

The retarded gowls in the EU really have gotten themselves into a serious mess now.
Imagine the mentality it took to go to war with Russia by proxy and to sanction the fuck out of that country, a country that was supplying the whole block with reasonably priced oil and gas.
Even if the gowls went begging to Putin now he'd most likely tell them where to go and he'd be 100% correct doing that.

Iran war exposes EU blunder in sanctioning Russia – Putin envoy​

Brent oil prices peaked at nearly $120 per barrel as another energy crisis looms

Kirill Dmitriev. © Sputnik/Alexander Kryazhev

The Iran war has shown that EU sanctions on Russian energy were “strategic blunders,” as oil prices have crossed $100 a barrel for the first time since 2022, Kirill Dmitriev, an investment envoy to President Vladimir Putin, has said.
In a series of posts on X from Sunday to Monday, Dmitriev commented on the rise in oil prices by around 50% since the start of the US-Israeli strikes on Iran last month. In one of the messages, he mocked the EU policymakers over what he described as a short-sighted policy of sanctioning Russia over the Ukraine conflict.
”Bingo – welcome to $100+ oil. Most thought impossible – predicted $100+ in June. Now, as most EU bureaucrats still don’t grasp consequences, predict Russian energy vital for survival & strategic blunders of restricting it will be fully exposed. Diversify to survive,” he said.

As the Brent prices peaked at almost $120 per barrel, Dmitriev noted that “$150+ is the new oil target, with even $200+ a possibility in a prolonged conflict.” He went on to explain that “the oil issue is no longer just about the Strait of Hormuz,” but also attacks on oil and gas infrastructure across the Middle East.
The oil rally was somewhat mitigated by reports that G7 countries are discussing a coordinated release of oil from their strategic reserves.
The US-Israeli strikes on Iran, which triggered Tehran’s retaliation, significantly raised the risks for vessels passing through the Strait of Hormuz – a key artery for around 20% of global oil consumption. Maritime traffic through the waterway collapsed by an estimated 80% as several oil tankers were hit in the area.
The EU faced a similar price shock when it sanctioned Russia following the escalation of the Ukraine conflict in 2022, with Brent crude averaging $100 per barrel throughout the year. Despite the ensuing energy crisis and heavy burden on consumers, the EU vowed to wean itself off Russian fossil fuel by the end of 2027.
US President Donald Trump brushed off the ongoing price surge on Sunday, saying higher oil costs caused by the Iran war are “a very small price to pay for U.S.A., and World, Safety and Peace.”

Iran war exposes EU blunder in sanctioning Russia – Putin envoy

The Iran war and rising oil prices show that the EU made a mistake by sanctioning Russian energy, Kirill Dmitriev has said

www.rt.com

 

[Perry]

It seems that the western masses are being conditioned for such an atrocity.
This is a dreadful soulless time.

We are living in very dangerous times. There really is a feeling that we could stumble into a situation where the US uses a nuke. I think Europe and the UK should be putting pressure on Trump to just declare victory and go home, but instead they are so cowardly and dependent on the US they are encouraging them. Where's Von der layen by the way, extremely quiet on this?

 

[Wolf]

We'll soon learn who our friends are!

Well we've alienated the USA, Russia, Hungary and probably the UK too so Ireland is heading for one massive wake up call.
Unfortunately, because of the goons that get elected here by the braindead, we're going to get a good kicking.

 

[Wolf]

We are living in very dangerous times. There really is a feeling that we could stumble into a situation where the US uses a nuke. I think Europe and the UK should be putting pressure on Trump to just declare victory and go home, but instead they are so cowardly and dependent on the US they are encouraging them. Where's Von der layen by the way, extremely quiet on this?

Von der Cuntface seems to have gone to ground ok, hardly a word from the unelected whore or that other dog Kallas.

 

[Perry]

Well we've alienated the USA, Russia, Hungary and probably the UK too so Ireland is heading for one massive wake up call.
Unfortunately, because of the goons that get elected here by the braindead, we're going to get a good kicking.

Ah shur, didn't we bring in abortion on demand and gay marriage.... That's all that matters to our political class. Their most pressing priority now is to rerun the woman in the home and recognising durable relationships refs...