Does Nationalism Need National Socialism?

[AN2]

 

[AUL LAD]

The chief argument though, is that White identity is viewed as evil because of its association with the ultimate evil of National Socialism, and so only saving the latter can save the former. It is true that the moral universe of moderns is centered on the satanic archetype of Hitler and all he is associated with. It doesn’t follow though, that the answer is to convince everyone that Hitler did nothing wrong. A lot of intelligent revisionists, such as the head of the Institute for Historical Review Mark Weber, came to the conclusion that as the events of World War Two grow more distant, and the masses lose the most basic grip on the narrative — any narrative — about that war, our energies are better focused on what’s happening here and now. In the past couple of years, we’ve seen the legitimacy of Jewish Zionist power be fiercely undermined by the left, who focused on present day injustices and stepped right over the kind of special pleading for Jews that is centered on the Second World War. The mythos of WW2 that established the post-Nuremberg world order was always going to have a lifespan, and is now dying to apathy and ignorance as Hitler becomes just another historical figure like Napoleon or Genghis Khan to a generation with little sense of connection to the period.

Thanks for these posts --i have learned a great deal and i never heard of Joel Davis .
Keith woods has reached a fork in the road and he has now more subscribers than the Irish times .
in order to be safely pigeonholed and to be quoted by mainstream journalists and especially to be allowed to appear on stage to collect large speaking fees in the USA he has to put an ocean between himself and national socialism but cleverly remaining within the nationalist white fold .
this is not an easy thing to do --therefore he started in territory usually occupied by Zionists who rubbish the hours long films EUROPA and THE GREATEST STORY NEVER TOLD and are ignored as they would say that wouldn't they .
Keith did something new --- he actually looked at it line by line and without the Zionist bile took it apart SORT OF.
Enough to now take the stage and occupy the intellectual high ground as he knows the Zionists need him desperately now as a non Jewish ""INDEPENDENT"" critical source .
he has turned the tables on the Zionists and he will make THEM rehabilitate him for free as he knows they desperately need him now .
our Keith is a deep well --who knows what he has really planned but he has a plan .
rubbishing a movement which ended mass starvation and usury and despite being sanctioned all around the world and being denied banking facilities worldwide and having their gold stolen managed to be the wealthiest country in 5 years from the rampant starvation and suicide of the Jewish weimar republic ,
this cannot be dismissed and the fact that this economic model proven to generate spectacular wealth for its citizens is now NOT allowed to be taught or even discussed world wide is a seismic event in itself .
Keith has a problem with this as his followers know he has taken the wrong fork in the road .

 

[it_is_what_it_is]

That's on an archive channel (with a total of 9 videos and 11 subscribers) so I wouldn't expect the video to have too many views.

When it was originally recorded between the two, I don't know but probably quite a while ago, as in years. Keith and Joel did have YouTube channels before but they've both been banned.


I think Joel is aware of what Australia is and its history, as he's often been at pains to point out

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Are you asking me? I would describe myself as an Irish white nationalist.



Over the years I've accumulated a number of lines that I thought of and that I repeat. I had them saved on my hard drive but unfortunately I Iost that in a tsunami following an earthquake so I have to recall them from memory now. One of them was -

Ireland is a province of globalism administered by apparatchiks.

So I kind of disagree with you that Ireland is being led by the Irish.



I have to admit that I find it hard to actually understand exactly what it is that you're talking about.

Perhaps if you can expand a little more on "muh hwite man gibberish", "muh mustache man" etc. it might help.

Or maybe you could try to better elucidate why you think that what's happening in other white countries (the exact same thing) that's happening in Ireland is completely irrelevant to Ireland, which you appear to think is the case.

I have no idea where you are thinking anything I said as directed to you, I have no idea who ye are lad, that's on you lad, you have some notions nothing to do with me. I am not asking anyone of being a Irish nationalist here, where this hwite Irish is a different question, where I am pro European, but I think of myself as Irish, not hwite or European where it is core to me, Irish is core to me.

Lad I have written many essays online that could accumulate many a book at this stage, not worth a fiddle regards reality, most of what I have written online is gone, dead internet etc.. Not worth a fiddle if ye are not willing to get on the streets and act such out regards reality.

Politics is about getting through to the people, where we are screwed regards getting any form of message on such regards the reality that we do not control the common media. Again, I like Joel, and thankfully the Australian system is not as crazy as the brit one, where he one be in jail as default there, but what he is doing is pushing the limit in his country, where pushing the overton window regards such is great if it works out in doing such. That is the whole point of what he is doing, not forgetting he is in a horrible place regards such, he is in Australia, again it's creation myth is a mess.

Where what Joel is doing, is on the ground, that it what is important here regards reality, for better or worse, and why I have so much respect for him, few on the internet actually do anything regards such, in such a country that has a fucked up creation myth. The idea that you are going to sell NS to the general population in Ireland is fucking retarded. It is hard enough to try push the fact that they are Irish and need their own homeland, pushing NS labeled shite is something that is not needed here, it is poison. Anyone pushing such in Ireland, a country that bred blood and soil Nationalism that represented it's own people, the Irish as default within it's own country and people independent of any foreign influence as default, is either a clown or a fed. That does not mean we do not read their thoughts on things or interact with them on a cordial basis. We are not Australian, and we are not brits, we are not hwite, we are Irish. This is not ethnic supremacism, this is ethnic Nationalism, our homeland, it is called Ireland.

Talking about other countries worries ?, are you heading over there to fix something ? either you lead or you don't at home, that is at default, on the ground action. If you lead at home, it will inspire others to step up, and even other peoples to step up. The start is on the ground, again, fair play to the joel. But if you are not doing such as default, as examples to the others, then you are talking shite on the internet. He could be pushing nationalist version of communism and I would still respect his guts doing such. Does not mean it has any place here. Australia is not Ireland, where he is fucked even pushing that there, where I understand him going that mad direction, and again, I like his drive.

 

[it_is_what_it_is]

This thread is about national socialism. What are the principles of national socialism that you disagree with and that are alien to an Irish man? Is it just an optics thing, Hitler is toxic therefore counter-productive to play-it-safe-don't-talk-about-the-Jews-or-racial-purity nationalism? You seem to be saying that national socialism is not Irish, therefore bad. Democracy, republicanism, parliamentarism (which have resulted in our current existential predicament) are not Irish either.

None of this is anything regards reality in the now, there is no third way, there is no second way. It is a world of globalist versus anti globalist. You are trying to push 1940's ideas on a reality that does not exist today. The ideas of the facists economically are already here and exist today, it is a mad mix of everything where actual capitalist's barely exist anymore in the west, I know, I am one of them, that produced more then I ever got back in return.

Just because such concepts existed before you were born, as counters to such at the time, that existed then, do not mean anything today. What are you talking about ?

Foreigners out, Irish need a homeland, as we have fought for millennia on. It's isn't hard, we have a rich history of such that does not need anything foreign in terms of idea's to clutter such, it is a counter to such. These foreigners have their own homeland, but want our's as well. Or is there some kind of miracle economic thing I am missing here regards the NS notions that hasn't already been absorbed into the reality of the west today, for bad or good ?

 

[AN2]

Thanks for these posts --i have learned a great deal and i never heard of Joel Davis .
Keith woods has reached a fork in the road and he has now more subscribers than the Irish times .
in order to be safely pigeonholed and to be quoted by mainstream journalists and especially to be allowed to appear on stage to collect large speaking fees in the USA he has to put an ocean between himself and national socialism but cleverly remaining within the nationalist white fold .
this is not an easy thing to do --therefore he started in territory usually occupied by Zionists who rubbish the hours long films EUROPA and THE GREATEST STORY NEVER TOLD and are ignored as they would say that wouldn't they .
Keith did something new --- he actually looked at it line by line and without the Zionist bile took it apart SORT OF.
Enough to now take the stage and occupy the intellectual high ground as he knows the Zionists need him desperately now as a non Jewish ""INDEPENDENT"" critical source .
he has turned the tables on the Zionists and he will make THEM rehabilitate him for free as he knows they desperately need him now .
our Keith is a deep well --who knows what he has really planned but he has a plan .
rubbishing a movement which ended mass starvation and usury and despite being sanctioned all around the world and being denied banking facilities worldwide and having their gold stolen managed to be the wealthiest country in 5 years from the rampant starvation and suicide of the Jewish weimar republic ,
this cannot be dismissed and the fact that this economic model proven to generate spectacular wealth for its citizens is now NOT allowed to be taught or even discussed world wide is a seismic event in itself .
Keith has a problem with this as his followers know he has taken the wrong fork in the road .

Keith posted this today -


View: https://t.me/keith_woods/6082

The Europa: The Last Battle stuff is quite relevant to this conversation (includes Joel). I was aware that Keith had written about but hadn't read it. I will read some and get back to you

 

[AUL LAD]

None of this is anything regards reality in the now, there is no third way, there is no second way. It is a world of globalist versus anti globalist. You are trying to push 1940's ideas on a reality that does not exist today. The ideas of the facists economically are already here and exist today, it is a mad mix of everything where actual capitalist's barely exist anymore in the west, I know, I am one of them, that produced more then I ever got back in return.

Just because such concepts existed before you were born, as counters to such at the time, that existed then, do not mean anything today. What are you talking about ?

Foreigners out, Irish need a homeland, as we have fought for millennia on. It's isn't hard, we have a rich history of such that does not need anything foreign in terms of idea's to clutter such, it is a counter to such. These foreigners have their own homeland, but want our's as well. Or is there some kind of miracle economic thing I am missing here regards the NS notions that hasn't already been absorbed into the reality of the west today, for bad or good ?

You need to read a little about German economics first to realize what the WW2 was fought for .
nobody gave a shit about the polish people or anyone else and when the war was over England gave the ENTIRE eastern Europe---- Estonia lativa litunhia and Poland to Russia without a seconds thought and there were now no guarantees to defend Poland after millions had given their lives for the lie .
you have to remember that Germany invaded Germany as Prussia and east Prussia and danzig were 99% German occupied by Poland and the polish had concentration camps for Germans and they would throw hundreds of dead German bodies on the roads for their polish truck drivers to drive over which they did .THE PEOPLE WHO INVADED POLAND IN 1939 WERE THE RUSSIANS AND NOBODY WENT TO WAR AGAINST THEM .
has the penny dropped yet do you get it
-the second world war had fuck all to do with defending Poland it was to destroy the German economic miracle.

 

[AN2]

I have no idea where you are thinking anything I said as directed to you, I have no idea who ye are lad, that's on you lad, you have some notions nothing to do with me.

Notions, lad?

Here you, watch your fucken mouth

Now that the pleasantries are out of the way..

I am not asking anyone of being a Irish nationalist here, where this hwite Irish is a different question, where I am pro European, but I think of myself as Irish, not hwite or European where it is core to me, Irish is core to me.

Lad I have written many essays online that could accumulate many a book at this stage,

No offence but you don't strike me as the essay writing type (your written English is comically bad)

not worth a fiddle regards reality, most of what I have written online is gone, dead internet etc.. Not worth a fiddle if ye are not willing to get on the streets and act such out regards reality.

Politics is about getting through to the people, where we are screwed regards getting any form of message on such regards the reality that we do not control the common media.

Who does?

Again, I like Joel, and thankfully the Australian system is not as crazy as the brit one, where he one be in jail as default there, but what he is doing is pushing the limit in his country, where pushing the overton window regards such is great if it works out in doing such. That is the whole point of what he is doing, not forgetting he is in a horrible place regards such, he is in Australia, again it's creation myth is a mess.

What is the "creation myth" of Australia?

Where what Joel is doing, is on the ground, that it what is important here regards reality, for better or worse, and why I have so much respect for him, few on the internet actually do anything regards such, in such a country that has a fucked up creation myth. The idea that you are going to sell NS to the general population in Ireland is fucking retarded. It is hard enough to try push the fact that they are Irish and need their own homeland, pushing NS labeled shite is something that is not needed here, it is poison. Anyone pushing such in Ireland, a country that bred blood and soil Nationalism that represented it's own people, the Irish as default within it's own country and people independent of any foreign influence as default, is either a clown or a fed. That does not mean we do not read their thoughts on things or interact with them on a cordial basis. We are not Australian, and we are not brits,

we are not hwite, we are Irish.

Jaze but, I haven't heard that one in a while..

So you're saying that you're not hwite [sic]?

So tell me, if one of the eh, common people you're trying to cuck get through to asked you if this person is Irish -

What would you say?

This is not ethnic supremacism, this is ethnic Nationalism, our homeland, it is called Ireland.

I'm aware of that

Talking about other countries worries ?

Yes, because they're the same as ours

are you heading over there to fix something ?

No, and?

either you lead or you don't at home, that is at default, on the ground action. If you lead at home, it will inspire others to step up, and even other peoples to step up. The start is on the ground, again, fair play to the joel. But if you are not doing such as default, as examples to the others, then you are talking shite on the internet. He could be pushing nationalist version of communism and I would still respect his guts doing such. Does not mean it has any place here. Australia is not Ireland, where he is fucked even pushing that there, where I understand him going that mad direction, and again, I like his drive.

Frankly, if all you can think about is Ireland then it's really no wonder that you blame the problem solely on Irish political "clowns and spastics". Some of us can think out of the box

 

[AN2]

 

[willows68]

'legitimately freaked out'
'most recent stain'
Yeah that dude is a gatekeeper
Never listened to him before, nor will I in future.
My collective white guilt is at minus.

 

[AN2]

'legitimately freaked out'
'most recent stain'
Yeah that dude is a gatekeeper
Never listened to him before, nor will I in future.
My collective white guilt is at minus.

I'm not sure that he was talking about his own opinion but, you know, the consensus

It's a bit like what Tucker said in the video I posted in post #25

Although Carlson and Rogan aren't "our guys", as we say in nationalism

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Joel Davis, Sir. With respect, do have a look at telegram.

Nobody has telegram M'Lady!

 

[AN2]

Keith posted this today -


View: https://t.me/keith_woods/6082

The Europa: The Last Battle stuff is quite relevant to this conversation (includes Joel). I was aware that Keith had written about but hadn't read it. I will read some and get back to you

Okay, there's just no way Imma gonna read all of this (and I believe there are at least two more parts)

Thanks for these posts --i have learned a great deal and i never heard of Joel Davis .
Keith woods has reached a fork in the road and he has now more subscribers than the Irish times .
in order to be safely pigeonholed and to be quoted by mainstream journalists and especially to be allowed to appear on stage to collect large speaking fees in the USA he has to put an ocean between himself and national socialism but cleverly remaining within the nationalist white fold .
this is not an easy thing to do --therefore he started in territory usually occupied by Zionists who rubbish the hours long films EUROPA and THE GREATEST STORY NEVER TOLD and are ignored as they would say that wouldn't they .
Keith did something new --- he actually looked at it line by line and without the Zionist bile took it apart SORT OF.
Enough to now take the stage and occupy the intellectual high ground as he knows the Zionists need him desperately now as a non Jewish ""INDEPENDENT"" critical source .
he has turned the tables on the Zionists and he will make THEM rehabilitate him for free as he knows they desperately need him now .
our Keith is a deep well --who knows what he has really planned but he has a plan .
rubbishing a movement which ended mass starvation and usury and despite being sanctioned all around the world and being denied banking facilities worldwide and having their gold stolen managed to be the wealthiest country in 5 years from the rampant starvation and suicide of the Jewish weimar republic ,
this cannot be dismissed and the fact that this economic model proven to generate spectacular wealth for its citizens is now NOT allowed to be taught or even discussed world wide is a seismic event in itself .
Keith has a problem with this as his followers know he has taken the wrong fork in the road .

So you reckon Keef is playing 4D chess to "turn the tables" on the Jews by debunking The Greatest Story Never Told?

I don't really see it that way. And I don't think Keef will ever be given a platform by Jews. Someone like Clanrickard thinks that Keith Woods is the (antisemitic) devil incarnate, roc literally has nightmares about him

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

The Jews don't even know who the fu*k Keef is.

 

[AUL LAD]

Okay, there's just no way Imma gonna read all of this (and I believe there are at least two more parts)


So you reckon Keef is playing 4D chess to "turn the tables" on the Jews by debunking The Greatest Story Never Told?

I don't really see it that way. And I don't think Keef will ever be given a platform by Jews. Someone like Clanrickard thinks that Keith Woods is the (antisemitic) devil incarnate, roc literally has nightmares about him

I accept what you say but the question why would he do it -what has he to gain -- if he published an accurate version or stated the film made 53 points and after investigation only 25 are accurate that would be something however he has left as far as i can tell a gaping hole where the film once stood.

 

[AN2]

The Jews don't even know who the fu*k Keef is.

The Jews don't know who the #BanTheADL guy is?

lol I don't think so

 

[AN2]

I accept what you say but the question why would he do it -what has he to gain -- if he published an accurate version or stated the film made 53 points and after investigation only 25 are accurate that would be something however he has left as far as i can tell a gaping hole where the film once stood.

Low IQ Antisemitism

So this would be my take on it, feel free to agree or disagree.

First of all, I have not watched all of Europa: The Last Battle and just so we can all hear @Myles O'Reilly scream.. It's over TWELVE HOURS LONG!

But I have watched some of it, and yes, I did get the feeling that it was slanted and significantly not true.

So I think Keef's take would be, why push it, what good does that do?


View: https://t.me/keith_woods/6056

 

[it_is_what_it_is]

You need to read a little about German economics first to realize what the WW2 was fought for .
nobody gave a shit about the polish people or anyone else and when the war was over England gave the ENTIRE eastern Europe---- Estonia lativa litunhia and Poland to Russia without a seconds thought and there were now no guarantees to defend Poland after millions had given their lives for the lie .
you have to remember that Germany invaded Germany as Prussia and east Prussia and danzig were 99% German occupied by Poland and the polish had concentration camps for Germans and they would throw hundreds of dead German bodies on the roads for their polish truck drivers to drive over which they did .THE PEOPLE WHO INVADED POLAND IN 1939 WERE THE RUSSIANS AND NOBODY WENT TO WAR AGAINST THEM .
has the penny dropped yet do you get it
-the second world war had fuck all to do with defending Poland it was to destroy the German economic miracle.

I have read so much of it already lad. I am versed in the history of the germans and the time, as well as so many a peoples history, I spend hours daily listening and reading.

Look, more direct to on of your points, Hitler did not give a fiddle about the polish either after Pilsudski died, it had complete notions after that to be fair. No one gave a fiddle about poland at that point outside using them for their own gains, where you see this time and again throughout history. We are seeing such right now on mass regards the Ukrainians dying on mass. Fools led to the slaughter by wolves in sheeps clothing. The cycles repeat. Even today I was listening to the hmong people and their response to the communist vietnam incursions against them, where it was never about communism regards the vietnam and their war in the area, they were always a group that used and abused others in the region, where the devil in the region was that which had no place there in the first place, the foreign, the americans, the vietnamese and the communist foreign concepts that scrambled the brains of the place otherwise.

I understand the aspects of how the war came about, and why It was, I have been fascinated with such since I was a child, and I am not a young lad anymore. I know an awful amount on the subject, and many others.

The issue is that NS is associated completely with HH at the neck, and it does not matter if he had good concepts or ideals of such regards his actions, and who he ended up against regards the outcomes, if the outcomes ended up as him being the worst individual that has ever existed regards said outcomes and what said outcomes did to Europe then and still today, it is failure of immense proportions you are politically pushing politically. That is without question. If you lead a country down a path, and that path is not just the opposite of said ideals, and the opposite for all other ethnic groups in the continent for generations regards outcomes, you are a failure of monumentary proportions.

Forget the holocaustianty that was pushed in the the late 1960's onwards, such only added to it, where failure of insane proportions like that, which are still directing Europe today, is why NS is not sellable to a voting public, and what I care about in the now. NS is associated with HH, HH is associated with abject failure, and so NS is associated with abject failure. That is how the political works, and such has never been fixed, where these days I think of the political first regards all this stuff, and trying to wake up my people to the dangers of today, and getting them to vote themselves out of it, as mad as that sounds.

I will try take info from anyone who I think can help me on such. But regards the politics, pushing the name NS is pure poison in Europe. Where countries will take a bit of this or a bit of that, and mix it in with a bit of their own regards their peoples proclivities, is how it has been since the last world war regards a political movement, not forgetting the increasing outside influence on such that is the biggest problem.

I will get to the other lads rant against me another day or three, no idea why is is so aggressive against me, but to be fair it is an issue of posting and not being able to do these things in a face to face way and understand the actual nuance of a conversation, which is the default problem of such a medium that we use. To be fair, I used to be way worse, best let it leave a few days first.

Where I do need to put this in on the issue of Australia, it has been on me mind. A creation myth is core to a people. Australia is a country of a mix of Europeans that was brought one way or another there by the brits, and no one likes them even now, nor can you hark back to them really as an Aussie even if they were great in the now. They should never have been there. It is an outlier that has huge issues regards a creation myth, and why I can see a mad man like Joel going down that path, where he has been on it for a while, where again I do like him, but I think he and his friends are cracked not just mix matching a strong/hardlined political grouping of thought without getting stained by the results of actions of a certain individual in the end. Where again, I do not have such pressures on me, I am an Irish man, and this land is mine as an Irishman, blood and soil. I do not need NS, or any of it's baggage.

 

[AN2]

I have read so much of it already lad. I am versed in the history of the germans and the time, as well as so many a peoples history, I spend hours daily listening and reading.

Look, more direct to on of your points, Hitler did not give a fiddle about the polish either after Pilsudski died, it had complete notions after that to be fair. No one gave a fiddle about poland at that point outside using them for their own gains, where you see this time and again throughout history. We are seeing such right now on mass regards the Ukrainians dying on mass. Fools led to the slaughter by wolves in sheeps clothing. The cycles repeat. Even today I was listening to the hmong people and their response to the communist vietnam incursions against them, where it was never about communism regards the vietnam and their war in the area, they were always a group that used and abused others in the region, where the devil in the region was that which had no place there in the first place, the foreign, the americans, the vietnamese and the communist foreign concepts that scrambled the brains of the place otherwise.

I understand the aspects of how the war came about, and why It was, I have been fascinated with such since I was a child, and I am not a young lad anymore. I know an awful amount on the subject, and many others.

The issue is that NS is associated completely with HH at the neck, and it does not matter if he had good concepts or ideals of such regards his actions, and who he ended up against regards the outcomes, if the outcomes ended up as him being the worst individual that has ever existed regards said outcomes and what said outcomes did to Europe then and still today, it is failure of immense proportions you are politically pushing politically. That is without question. If you lead a country down a path, and that path is not just the opposite of said ideals, and the opposite for all other ethnic groups in the continent for generations regards outcomes, you are a failure of monumentary proportions.

Forget the holocaustianty that was pushed in the the late 1960's onwards, such only added to it, where failure of insane proportions like that, which are still directing Europe today, is why NS is not sellable to a voting public, and what I care about in the now. NS is associated with HH, HH is associated with abject failure, and so NS is associated with abject failure. That is how the political works, and such has never been fixed, where these days I think of the political first regards all this stuff, and trying to wake up my people to the dangers of today, and getting them to vote themselves out of it, as mad as that sounds.

I will try take info from anyone who I think can help me on such. But regards the politics, pushing the name NS is pure poison in Europe. Where countries will take a bit of this or a bit of that, and mix it in with a bit of their own regards their peoples proclivities, is how it has been since the last world war regards a political movement, not forgetting the increasing outside influence on such that is the biggest problem.

I will get to the other lads rant against me another day or three, no idea why is is so aggressive against me,

Oh shut up you big crybaby

but to be fair it is an issue of posting and not being able to do these things in a face to face way and understand the actual nuance of a conversation, which is the default problem of such a medium that we use. To be fair, I used to be way worse, best let it leave a few days first.

Where I do need to put this in on the issue of Australia, it has been on me mind. A creation myth is core to a people. Australia is a country of a mix of Europeans that was brought one way or another there by the brits, and no one likes them even now, nor can you hark back to them really as an Aussie even if they were great in the now. They should never have been there.

Here's another question I predict you won't answer in the "one to three days" it takes you to garner the strength to reply to my post.. If the white man should never have been on the continent we now call Australia, should he also have never been in America, Canada, New Zealand and South Africa?

You're really starting to strike me as an anti-colonialism, anti-Brit type

Here's another one of my lines -

Republicanism is a great retardation on Irish nationalism.

It is an outlier that has huge issues regards a creation myth, and why I can see a mad man like Joel going down that path, where he has been on it for a while, where again I do like him, but I think he and his friends are cracked not just mix matching a strong/hardlined political grouping of thought without getting stained by the results of actions of a certain individual in the end. Where again, I do not have such pressures on me, I am an Irish man, and this land is mine as an Irishman, blood and soil. I do not need NS, or any of it's baggage.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Oh shut up you big crybaby

Has Ivan used AI to write that post?

 

[AUL LAD]

Low IQ Antisemitism

So this would be my take on it, feel free to agree or disagree.

First of all, I have not watched all of Europa: The Last Battle and just so we can all hear @Myles O'Reilly scream.. It's over TWELVE HOURS LONG!

But I have watched some of it, and yes, I did get the feeling that it was slanted and significantly not true.

So I think Keef's take would be, why push it, what good does that do?


View: https://t.me/keith_woods/6056

thanks for posting that it explains a lot -- i watched Europa all of it and i am sorry to report i could not relay over 5 minutes as it was so vast you might read the bible in that time but could you quote a page of it.
it is a feast for the already converted -- i have never read mein kampf but i have to get to it shortly as i have been conditioned all my life never to read it .
if he is telling us the truth woods is tidying the office and filing away what is required in order to make a presentation later that makes sense --well that makes sense on its own but he will have to write a book or do a 3 hour documentary in order to explain ""what must be said "" as gunther grass put it.

 

[AN2]

 

[SwordOfStZip]

The Jews don't even know who the fu*k Keef is.

Not true at all. Your average Muslim in Ireland will not know who Tommy Robinson is or at the very least will only have very vague ideas about him while as your average Jew in England or France will know who Keith Woods is. This speaks a major difference between Muslims and Jews in general as regards their response to external antagonism. There is a whole multi-million industry catering to Jews who obssess about "Antisemitism". For a lot of people who identify as Jews their Jewish identity almost solely revolves about "Antisemitism" and cheering the dispossession and slaughter of indigenous Palestinians.

 

[SwordOfStZip]

View attachment 7372

Being against "Antisemitism" and "Homophobia" are defining of what it means to be truly Civilized now for a lot of Westerners, even on the Hard Right. This raises the problem that if that is true than Western Civilization was very far from being truly Civilized for most of it's history.

 

[AN2]

Being against "Antisemitism" and "Homophobia" are defining of what it means to be truly Civilized now for a lot of Westerners, even on the Hard Right. This raises the problem that if that is true than Western Civilization was very far from being truly Civilized for most of it's history.

Hardly

Then again, you think that The Nal is right-wing!

 

[AUL LAD]

Being against "Antisemitism" and "Homophobia" are defining of what it means to be truly Civilized now for a lot of Westerners, even on the Hard Right. This raises the problem that if that is true than Western Civilization was very far from being truly Civilized for most of it's history.

There is a huge change underway and to try and cope they are trying to ban tick toc and have 29 states which will jail you if you criticize Israel only.
the online presence of Joe rogan candece Owens tucker Carlson and many others now openly question the Israel first policies and its emerging in the past few days that the JFK files contain many references to Israel murdering JFK .
it has also emerged that the USA pays for and guarantees the economy of Israel and makes up the shortfall in their economy each year which allows them free medical care free university and any Israeli will be flown to America for any medical treatment free and can jump the ques for organ transplants which are also free to them in addition the USA must pay the full costs of a person moving to Israel.
people are now disgusted at this thieving murdering parasitical scum who have taken over the American political landscape since the 1950s and the financial landscape since 1913.
americians are only waking up to find they are Palestinians .
this week bibi with American weapons killed 400 and injuried 1000 and ended the ceasefire in order to prevent a settlement and release of the hostages ,
he has forced trump to move 3 battle groups close to Iran and has bombed the houtis again .
the dream of nenanhue is war with iran and it is looking likely that trump will bomb Iran for Israel .
the gulf will close -- no more oil the worlds economies will tank people will starve -- all because of Israel .
the Russians will support Iran the Pakistanis will support Iran -they have 2700 hyper-sonic missiles all deep underground all will be sent to Israel and the aircraft carriers while the houtis do the same and Russia supplies other armaments and it is believed Iran has in the past few days developed their own nuclear weapons .
israel is the cheif source of evil in the world today .

 

[it_is_what_it_is]

Oh shut up you big crybaby



Here's another question I predict you won't answer in the "one to three days" it takes you to garner the strength to reply to my post.. If the white man should never have been on the continent we now call Australia, should he also have never been in America, Canada, New Zealand and South Africa?

You're really starting to strike me as an anti-colonialism, anti-Brit type

Here's another one of my lines -

Republicanism is a great retardation on Irish nationalism.

I am only messing lad, I am too busy, and why I am here now, I have not even read the thread, I didn't realise on later that ye were as serious on the NS thing as ye are, where that is a different thing, and I think ye are mad. Where ye have tried to bring up all kinds of things that I was not talking on, as I wanted to talk on the political, as the thread said Nationalism versus NS, and invoking such to the public, and so political messaging and getting votes under such, which I think such is a poison due to the today, history is defined by the winner, ye have to adapt, I will talk on it further later.

No lad, I am talking as if I was with people on the old forum, that understood the nuances and basics that we had already been through without having to explain every minute detail like an autist. I wanted to talk on the politics of what Joel was doing in the now, and as above, that is what he was doing and how it is a ridiculous thing here in Ireland as example, as that is what I think as first and foremost, an Irish man.

I am not anti anything regards terms, I just see that the things that happened before are different to homeland problems easier, in terms of blood and soil, where such can not be countered on such regards homeland as easily and so a bigger potential problem. The issue as default with the Aussies is the abbo problem, it is a trojan horse that has been used to undermine the country created by the European diaspora, that created the nation. That is why it is problamatic there, the problem of the abbos, where at a certain point the aussies for many a reason, allowed the thin end of the wedge to undermine the place. This is a fact, this is happening in the now in more of an extreme, and also allows for them filth to push that anyone can be aussie etc.. I am not saying this is right, fuck the foreigners, but something went wrong regards such a construct, and so ye need to try understand how such came about, and what can be done to counter or fix.

They made an awful lot of mistakes over the generations regards the aussis, regards this example, if ye know the history of the place, where it is easy to say such in hindsight, again, it is a problem that was there, that allowed the thin end of the wedge against what was a very white centric core population to upend such. It happened, regards history, where the fitlh used such to try to even undermine them, where they had no choice in the matter, but it does not matter to the filth pushing such. It does not mean that I would not have wished this was not an issue. But in thinking on such terms, ye might be able to get a way of conversing against the filth in media, in a way that the public will see as a counter to the filths words. Again, I kept asking, how are you trying to counter the issues regards a political conversation, where this thread had two different political terms in it's heading, Nationalism and NS.

Current shin fein are scum lad, the current filth leadership does not represent what they were a hundred years ago, where such ended a hundred years ago, civil war politics and all.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Ivan are you writing all of that stuff yourself?

 

[AN2]

I am only messing lad, I am too busy, and why I am here now, I have not even read the thread, I didn't realise on later that ye were as serious on the NS thing as ye are, where that is a different thing, and I think ye are mad. Where ye have tried to bring up all kinds of things that I was not talking on, as I wanted to talk on the political, as the thread said Nationalism versus NS, and invoking such to the public, and so political messaging and getting votes under such, which I think such is a poison due to the today, history is defined by the winner, ye have to adapt, I will talk on it further later.

No lad, I am talking as if I was with people on the old forum, that understood the nuances and basics that we had already been through without having to explain every minute detail like an autist. I wanted to talk on the politics of what Joel was doing in the now, and as above, that is what he was doing and how it is a ridiculous thing here in Ireland as example, as that is what I think as first and foremost, an Irish man.

I am not anti anything regards terms, I just see that the things that happened before are different to homeland problems easier, in terms of blood and soil, where such can not be countered on such regards homeland as easily and so a bigger potential problem. The issue as default with the Aussies is the abbo problem, it is a trojan horse that has been used to undermine the country created by the European diaspora, that created the nation. That is why it is problamatic there, the problem of the abbos, where at a certain point the aussies for many a reason, allowed the thin end of the wedge to undermine the place. This is a fact, this is happening in the now in more of an extreme, and also allows for them filth to push that anyone can be aussie etc.. I am not saying this is right, fuck the foreigners, but something went wrong regards such a construct, and so ye need to try understand how such came about, and what can be done to counter or fix.

They made an awful lot of mistakes over the generations regards the aussis, regards this example, if ye know the history of the place, where it is easy to say such in hindsight, again, it is a problem that was there, that allowed the thin end of the wedge against what was a very white centric core population to upend such. It happened, regards history, where the fitlh used such to try to even undermine them, where they had no choice in the matter, but it does not matter to the filth pushing such. It does not mean that I would not have wished this was not an issue. But in thinking on such terms, ye might be able to get a way of conversing against the filth in media, in a way that the public will see as a counter to the filths words. Again, I kept asking, how are you trying to counter the issues regards a political conversation, where this thread had two different political terms in it's heading, Nationalism and NS.

Current shin fein are scum lad, the current filth leadership does not represent what they were a hundred years ago, where such ended a hundred years ago, civil war politics and all.

As predicted, you haven't answered a single one of my questions

 

[AN2]

Ivan are you writing all of that stuff yourself?

I think the chap only likes the sound of his own voice

 

[it_is_what_it_is]

As predicted, you haven't answered a single one of my questions

What did I not answer?

I also do not believe we should lower our much simpler and better belief structure in Europe regards our own ethnic blood and soil, in other words nation, and so Nationalism as the correct political term, where ye can call it Irish Nationalism, Polish Nationalism, as they have their different political policies to add on that suit etc... for the sake of the aussies that you are looking to do. I can sell Irish Nationalism in Ireland. I cannot sell NS, or this hwite stuff in terms of the politics. Where I am not sure how many of any of ye are actually involved in politics on the ground in Ireland ?

 

[AN2]

What did I not answer?

Everything in my previous two posts to you that had a question mark at the end of the sentence

I also do not believe we should lower our much simpler and better belief structure in Europe regards our own ethnic blood and soil, in other words nation, and so Nationalism as the correct political term, where ye can call it Irish Nationalism, Polish Nationalism, as they have their different political policies to add on that suit etc... for the sake of the aussies that you are looking to do. I can sell Irish Nationalism in Ireland. I cannot sell NS, or this hwite stuff in terms of the politics. Where I am not sure how many of any of ye are actually involved in politics on the ground in Ireland ?

 

[it_is_what_it_is]

Everything in my previous two posts to you that had a question mark at the end of the sentence

What I suspected of ye when I made that last post is correct. I do not know what ye are, but ye are not of use to Irish Nationalism or anything useful regards anything of the Irish people going forward. I made a mistake ever conversing with ye further, I was trying to be nice, my mistake.

Ye need to get off the internet lad, and if ye want to push your ns stuff, you go right ahead and see where it gets ye in Ireland. I am putting ye on ignore now, where this forum was only for putting complete nonsense out after the old one died. It is bad at this point, and anyone following this clown and his ns nonsense, if he every has the balls to do so publicly, is ending up on a government list at best.

I am done with this thread.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Gentlemen please. Could we cut out the ad hominems.

 

[AN2]

He's just another low IQ idiot who isn't the slightest bit aware that a conversation or debate involves at least two people. He reminds me of Tiger

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Maybe you two should just reset and start over. Sometimes a clean slate is just what's needed Sir.

 

[AN2]

I made a mistake ever conversing with ye further, I was trying to be nice, my mistake.

I don't know where you come from, but where I come from constantly calling someone "lad" (along with your general tone) isn't exactly entirely respectful, son

Ye need to get off the internet lad, and if ye want to push your ns stuff, you go right ahead and see where it gets ye in Ireland.

I guess we can't all be radical game changers, like you

By the way, where have I "pushed my NS stuff"?

Sorry, I forgot - what's the point in asking you a question

I have presented this as a debate centred around Keith Woods and Joel Davis which many other people have been talking about, none of which you'd know anything about (including Woods and Davis)

I think there are various strands to the debate, the rehabilitation of the Nazis, the emulation of National Socialism (I believe @feudalist talked about that) and so on. @Hermit asked you about NS as a political ideology and you didn't respond, you could have said something such as that you're against such because you believe in democracy as such, or such but you didn't

The rehabilitation of the Nazis is certainly something I'm sympathetic to simply because racism/antisemitism/Holocaust is the very reason we, as white people, can't have nationalism but of course, you don't believe that Irish people are hwite [sic] anyway. I hate to break it to you, but that doesn't matter a fiddler's fuck because that's what we are and that's how we're perceived

I am done with this thread.

 

[Hermit]

I don't know where you come from, but where I come from constantly calling someone "lad" (along with your general tone) isn't exactly entirely respectful, son


I guess we can't all be radical game changers, like you

By the way, where have I "pushed my NS stuff"?

Sorry, I forgot - what's the point in asking you a question

I have presented this as a debate centred around Keith Woods and Joel Davis which many other people have been talking about, none of which you'd know anything about (including Woods and Davis)

I think there are various strands to the debate, the rehabilitation of the Nazis, the emulation of National Socialism (I believe @feudalist talked about that) and so on. @Hermit asked you about NS as a political ideology and you didn't respond, you could have said something such as that you're against such because you believe in democracy as such, or such but you didn't

The rehabilitation of the Nazis is certainly something I'm sympathetic to simply because racism/antisemitism/Holocaust is the very reason we, as white people, can't have nationalism but of course, you don't believe that Irish people are hwite [sic] anyway. I hate to break it to you, but that doesn't matter a fiddler's fuck because that's what we are and that's how we're perceived

Summary of him in this thread:

• Didn't read either Woods' or Davis' essays
• Didn't even read the thread
• Calls AN2 "lad" even though AN2 was not antagonistic to him up to that point
• Nothing to say about the principles of NS
• NS/Hitler bad optics so he can't "sell it" to normies
• Accuses people here of not doing any political work on the ground
• Puts AN2 on ignore and leaves the thread
• Condemns NS but says (Irish) nationalism is about "blood and soil"

Blood and soil - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Blood and soil (German: Blut und Boden, pronounced [ˈbluːt ʊnt ˈboːdn̩] ⓘ) is a nationalist slogan expressing Nazi Germany's ideal of a racially defined national body ("Blood") united with a settlement area ("Soil").

I'm the only person here in this thread that has met both Joel and Keith in person

muh hwite man gibberish

honestly I wasn't bothered reading their walls of text on it

I have not even read the thread

I cannot sell NS, or this hwite stuff in terms of the politics.

our own ethnic blood and soil, in other words nation, and so Nationalism as the correct political term

NS labeled shite is something that is not needed here, it is poison. Anyone pushing such in Ireland, a country that bred blood and soil Nationalism that represented it's own people

I am an Irish man, and this land is mine as an Irishman, blood and soil. I do not need NS, or any of it's baggage.

 

[AN2]

Summary of him in this thread:

• Didn't read either Woods' or Davis' essays
• Didn't even read the thread
• Calls AN2 "lad" even though AN2 was not antagonistic to him up to that point
• Nothing to say about the principles of NS
• NS/Hitler bad optics so he can't "sell it" to normies
• Accuses people here of not doing any political work on the ground
• Puts AN2 on ignore and leaves the thread
• Condemns NS but says (Irish) nationalism is about "blood and soil"

Blood and soil - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

A very concise and accurate summary indeed

 

[AUL LAD]

A very concise and accurate summary indeed

2 LADS ? or maybe we are all lads now.

 

[AN2]

2 LADS ? or maybe we are all lads now.

Haha.. Well you call yourself AUL LAD so it's a little different