European elections and locals.

[scolairebocht]

So to summarise a little, and maybe others would have different opinion, but:
Out of 4 seats in Dublin it looks Andrews FF, Doherty FG, Lynn Boylan Sinn Fein, and maybe Niall Boylan Independent Ireland (I am only guessing but he is ahead now and we are on the 17th count so not all eliminated votes will now transfer, and he is kind of independent like Daly).
Out of 5 seats in the large Ulster/Connaught/Leinster constituency its Luke Flanagan Independent, Maria Walsh and Nina Carberry FG, Barry Cowen FF, then all to play for but Gildernew of Sinn Fein has a running mate to be eliminated, so that might be big, and Tobin Aontu and Mullooly Independent Ireland are up there but still too early to say. (Waters etc does have a chance but it is an outside one at this stage.)

 

[Declan]

For Waters, it is not Europe but a Dail seat

 

[SeekTheFairLand]

So to summarise a little, and maybe others would have different opinion, but:
Out of 4 seats in Dublin it looks Andrews FF, Doherty FG, Lynn Boylan Sinn Fein, and maybe Niall Boylan Independent Ireland (I am only guessing but he is ahead now and we are on the 17th count so not all eliminated votes will now transfer, and he is kind of independent like Daly).
Out of 5 seats in the large Ulster/Connaught/Leinster constituency its Luke Flanagan Independent, Maria Walsh and Nina Carberry FG, Barry Cowen FF, then all to play for but Gildernew of Sinn Fein has a running mate to be eliminated, so that might be big, and Tobin Aontu and Mullooly Independent Ireland are up there but still too early to say. (Waters etc does have a chance but it is an outside one at this stage.)

Gildernew has indicated that she doesnt think she'll be elected. SF eyes were too big for their belly. They have near enough the same vote as the last election but ran two candidates.

 

[scolairebocht]

A few guesses in Munster might be:
Out of 5 seats you have Sean Kelly FG, Mick Wallace Independent (he is up there now and I think Independents will be more transfer friendly), Kathleen Funchion Sinn Fein (who has a running mate with a good few votes to transfer across), after that I couldn't even guess but Derek Blighe is really not that far off.

 

[clarke-connolly]

Gildernew has indicated that she doesnt think she'll be elected. SF eyes were too big for their belly. They have near enough the same vote as the last election but ran two candidates.

I assume that they were trying to do some sort of transfer tactic.

Anyway = = Fuck the Sinn Fein Traitors ! !

 

[scolairebocht]

Thats interesting, I wonder who Gildernew thinks will take the seat?

 

[scolairebocht]

By the way you can get the results here: https://www.breakingnews.ie/electio...and-ireland-south-constituencies-1634941.html

 

[Coal Gas and peat]

I always thought Daly and Wallace were up against it in this election

 

[scolairebocht]

Just to update Munster, of course Kelleher FF will take a seat, and maybe Michael Macnamara Independent, which still leaves the rest up in the air.

 

[scolairebocht]

FF have done better vote management than FG, and could get two seats?

 

[Coal Gas and peat]

Niall Boylan has a 3000 lead on O'Riordan with Claire Daley voted now being distributed

 

[scolairebocht]

Yes I agree Coal, its looking good for him, all depends on what attitude Daly's voters take!

 

[scolairebocht]

I see on twitter they are assuming Blighe has no chance because he is supposed to be very transfer unfriendly. But you have Una MaGurk, Michael Leahy, Patrick Murphy of Aontu - who is somewhat anti-mass migration - etc, so who knows?

 

[Declan]

Niall boylan took a hit though, only 3000 ahead instead of 6000

 

[Declan]

Herman will easily catch john on this count but he will need a good cushin to hold for the next three counts

 

[AUL LAD]

How many do you want?

how many what do you want.
my brother in law has 500 cows and his son is leaving for new zeland to get experience of how it is done there and to study .
he has tried and offered 40,000 E to various people and failed to get someone to help him .
neighbors were in the same fix and they were contractors also --the nearest place they could get staff was NEPAL .
nepelase man starts next week .
there is TODAY and every day for the past 3 years a 30 foot long sign begging appealing for nursing staff to work in st lukes is displayed at the front entrance -- they come from kearla and the phillipenes today and we are lucky to have them .
our nursing homes could not survive without the people from the phillipenes .
i pity the poor bastard who will care for you .

 

[AUL LAD]

Myles your ignorance knows no bounds. You can throw around all the lazy Ad Hom’s that you like, however two things will remain true:

1) Jimmy Dawson is not a true nationalist. He’s likely a descendant of the original plantation. The English surname is key evidence that he is not fully (if at all) genealogically Irish. Calling himself, “the only true nationalist in Ireland” is so bloody farcical, that it needs no explanation. How many generations will it take for the current planters to start calling themselves "the only true nationalists"?

2) Your knowledge of the original plantations and its affect in Ireland is clearly very poor.

Even today individuals in positions of power in Ireland are descendants of settlers from the British plantations. Back then they publicised claims that the planters are "more Irish than the Irish themselves".........something that we are starting to hear again. History is repeating itself.

While the specific lineage of contemporary figures is often not publicized in detail, the influence of these historical events is still evident. Many prominent families in Ireland have ancestral ties to the British plantations, and their descendants can be found in various sectors, including politics, business, and the arts. They are often behind major news organisations, such as the most popular newspapers. Newspapers which have shaped public opinion, both in the past and still to this day.

In Northern Ireland, the impact is more pronounced due to the larger scale of the Ulster Plantation and its lasting demographic and cultural effects. Politicians, business leaders, and other influential figures in Northern Ireland often have connections to the settlers who arrived during the plantation period.

In the Republic of Ireland, the influence is less direct but still present. Historical figures and prominent families with plantation ties have contributed to the country's development and occasionally, their descendants hold influential roles today. The legacy of the plantations, therefore, continues to shape the sociopolitical landscape of both Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland.

In the Republic one of the biggest influences was the introduction of Scottish Rite Freemasonry by the Protestant – Colonel Frances George Irwin. His influence has been subversive and clandestine towards all major institutions in the country both back in his day and right through to today.

 

[Professor]

I hope Niall Boylan keeps his Radio Show on the Go and gives us a voice in times of trouble!!

Maybe produce something like GB news for the local Irish!

 

[AUL LAD]

Myles your ignorance knows no bounds. You can throw around all the lazy Ad Hom’s that you like, however two things will remain true:

1) Jimmy Dawson is not a true nationalist. He’s likely a descendant of the original plantation. The English surname is key evidence that he is not fully (if at all) genealogically Irish. Calling himself, “the only true nationalist in Ireland” is so bloody farcical, that it needs no explanation. How many generations will it take for the current planters to start calling themselves "the only true nationalists"?

2) Your knowledge of the original plantations and its affect in Ireland is clearly very poor.

Even today individuals in positions of power in Ireland are descendants of settlers from the British plantations. Back then they publicised claims that the planters are "more Irish than the Irish themselves".........something that we are starting to hear again. History is repeating itself.

While the specific lineage of contemporary figures is often not publicized in detail, the influence of these historical events is still evident. Many prominent families in Ireland have ancestral ties to the British plantations, and their descendants can be found in various sectors, including politics, business, and the arts. They are often behind major news organisations, such as the most popular newspapers. Newspapers which have shaped public opinion, both in the past and still to this day.

In Northern Ireland, the impact is more pronounced due to the larger scale of the Ulster Plantation and its lasting demographic and cultural effects. Politicians, business leaders, and other influential figures in Northern Ireland often have connections to the settlers who arrived during the plantation period.

In the Republic of Ireland, the influence is less direct but still present. Historical figures and prominent families with plantation ties have contributed to the country's development and occasionally, their descendants hold influential roles today. The legacy of the plantations, therefore, continues to shape the sociopolitical landscape of both Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland.

In the Republic one of the biggest influences was the introduction of Scottish Rite Freemasonry by the Protestant – Colonel Frances George Irwin. His influence has beensubversive and clandestine towards all major institutions in the country both back in his day and right through to today.

This is a great post and you cannot read in one paragraph what you have just said -- nobody talks about it it is still verboten.
i passed through Mountmellic a few weeks ago and i had a group from kearla with me and as you come from Portlaoise side you face the masons hall with its very large stained glass window and these people are what we used to be like 50 years ago they would bless themselves passing any church ,
and they reacted violently when they saw the pentagram and i asked whats the matter---- and one person in English said this is the sign of the antichrist -- they all knew .
today you look at orangemen wearing aprons collarettes and sashes and they belong to lodges and refer to each other as brother this and that .
Each town had at least one lodge and abbeyleix had two and the great houses had an masonic lodge in the house often registered in London.
see LADY FREEMASON on google for the lodge in donarail court cork .
when i explain the north to people i tell them the people who decided things were not christian -- no christian would do what they did .

 

[Mad as Fish]

Wicklow is a very weird place.

It tries to be more English than England itself.

 

[scolairebocht]

Its now looking like O'Riordain will get the seat, if he is more popular with Cuffe's supporters than Niall Boylan, which seems likely.

 

[Declan]

Not necessarily, weirdly we now are happy to have ff fg and sf still in there to hoover up some votes

 

[Coal Gas and peat]

Its now looking like O'Riordain will get the seat, if he is more popular with Cuffe's supporters than Niall Boylan, which seems likely.

Depends how far niall boylan is ahead after Claire dalys transfers I think

 

[Mad as Fish]

how many what do you want.
my brother in law has 500 cows and his son is leaving for new zeland to get experience of how it is done there and to study .
he has tried and offered 40,000 E to various people and failed to get someone to help him .
neighbors were in the same fix and they were contractors also --the nearest place they could get staff was NEPAL .
nepelase man starts next week .
there is TODAY and every day for the past 3 years a 30 foot long sign begging appealing for nursing staff to work in st lukes is displayed at the front entrance -- they come from kearla and the phillipenes today and we are lucky to have them .
our nursing homes could not survive without the people from the phillipenes .
i pity the poor bastard who will care for you .

Dairy farmers can happily take advantage of automation, robotic milking is a well established technology, although at 80 - 100k apiece they are not cheap, but then that is just two years wages for a herdsman so the price needn't be prohibitive. Unfortunately, one machine is needed for every 80 cows, which, on a big holding, may not prove to be economic if there is already a big rotary parlour installed.

But even so, 40K is not a big wage nowadays, especially considering the usocial hours and less than pristine working conditions. Some nursing grades are twice that with a decent pension thrown in.

 

[scolairebocht]

I don't think anything like 40k wages are available for any farm labourers in Ireland, except in very rare specific circumstances. In that case since the guy is going abroad, and the family must have a lot of money, the entire profit of the farm must be on offer to that new person, that's very rare and unusual. Its a minuscule percentage of Irish farms that can now clear 40k a year to pay for any labourer. MacConagle, the Minister for Agriculture, admitted some time ago that the majority of beef farms in Ireland lose money, and that is the majority type of farming practice in Ireland.

 

[Fam Shox]

I don't think anything like 40k wages are available for any farm labourers in Ireland, except in very rare specific circumstances. In that case since the guy is going abroad, and the family must have a lot of money, the entire profit of the farm must be on offer to that new person, that's very rare and unusual. Its a minuscule percentage of Irish farms that can now clear 40k a year to pay for any labourer. MacConagle, the Minister for Agriculture, admitted some time ago that the majority of beef farms in Ireland lose money, and that is the majority type of farming practice in Ireland.

I was screenprinting there for a few months on the minimum wage, standing beside an oven all day inhaling spray glue. And I'm 53 now. I'd stick me head up a cow's hole all day for forty grand.

 

[Zipporah's Flint]

It tries to be more English than England itself.

The founder of the IRSP/INLA also came from there. There are crazy sectarian tensions in parts of there that you can cut with a knife- just as bad as the worst places in the six counties. When we first moved to the South we thought getting a place there but sussing it out we decided definitely not because of that.

 

[Mad as Fish]

I don't think anything like 40k wages are available for any farm labourers in Ireland, except in very rare specific circumstances. In that case since the guy is going abroad, and the family must have a lot of money, the entire profit of the farm must be on offer to that new person, that's very rare and unusual. Its a minuscule percentage of Irish farms that can now clear 40k a year to pay for any labourer. MacConagle, the Minister for Agriculture, admitted some time ago that the majority of beef farms in Ireland lose money, and that is the majority type of farming practice in Ireland.

It's a complex situation alright. 40K equates roughly to 20e per hour, that would not be unknown by any means, especially for experienced workers. Relaibility is the key, staff need to be there to do the job when it needs doing and that's worth paying for, made easier when the milk price is strong.

Referring to these folk as labourers does't help their percieved staus either, there can be a lot of skill and dedication involved, caring for stock and rearing the young is not a job for everyone, and the vastly more complex machines that are out there require a reasonable intelligenge if the best is to be got from them. They can be hugely productive in the right hands.

Beef farms are very often small family units run on a part time basis, so depending on how profitability is defined, there is no surprise in that many don't meet government expectations.

 

[Hermit]

Niall Blaney FF got 595 transfers from Barrett, more than the 547 to Hermann Kelly. Hundreds more of Barrett's transfers gone to Ming/FF/FG/SF. You'd have to wonder what kind of person votes no. 1 for "literally Hitler" while also giving their second preferences to anti-Hitler candidates.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

We are on the 17th count so not all eliminated votes will now transfer.

Why not Sir?

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

i pity the poor bastard who will care for you .

Aul Lad is attacking Val now!

 

[Coal Gas and peat]

Final count in Dublin the green has been eliminated niall boylan still around 3000 ahead of O'riordan .......with nobody elected some of that green vote will go to candidates ahead of boylan and O'riordan , this lessens Labour's chances of taking the seat

 

[Declan]

John needs to make up 600 votes more than hermin with 3 candidates, it certainly can be done.
Does geography help him I wonder

 

[Fam Shox]

Where is the wors

The founder of the IRSP/INLA also came from there. There are crazy sectarian tensions in parts of there that you can cut with a knife- just as bad as the worst places in the six counties. When we first moved to the South we thought getting a place there but sussing it out we decided definitely not because of that.

Where is the worst spot in wicklow

 

[Coal Gas and peat]

It's over in Dublin .....in the end Niall Boylan was beat by 13,000 votes

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

13,000! Dan said earlier he was a shoe in

 

[Coal Gas and peat]

13,000! Dan said earlier he was a shoe in

That fucking gimp Ciaran cuffes gave amadan O'Ramadan 17000 transfers

 

[SeekTheFairLand]

Now, who would have done that? Irish culture destroyed.. and its a footnote in the media.


View: https://x.com/rtenews/status/1800616036519342538

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Can't believe the people have voted that faggot back in

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Now, who would have done that? Irish culture destroyed.

That happened a few years ago and I jumped on the bandwagon blaming Muzzies but it turned out to be a local Scrote.

The Priest only has himself to blame. Why didn't he secure the Site after the last attack?