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<blockquote data-quote="Tiger" data-source="post: 131722" data-attributes="member: 353"><p>What evidence do you have for this claim?</p><p></p><p>It appears that now now we’ve resorted to <em>telepathic polling</em> to determine how Tóibín voted in the privacy of the ballot box? Bravo—yet another psychic sleuth sniffing out “evidence” that doesn’t exist. There is no public record of Peadar Tóibín voting for same-sex marriage, and given that he walked away from a cushy Sinn Féin career <em>precisely</em> because he wouldn’t budge on abortion, the idea that he suddenly had a Damascus Road conversion to rainbow theology is, frankly, hilarious.</p><p></p><p>But more to the point—at no stage did I say Tóibín was some flawless icon of Catholic orthodoxy. I said he’s one of the <em>only</em> public figures willing to utter even a peep about immigration while the rest of the political class sits in mute adoration of Brussels. That alone, however modest, sets him leagues ahead of your secular saints, who don’t even show up to the fight.</p><p></p><p>It’s curious, isn’t it? You spend all your time sneering at “religious headcases” <strong>while failing to offer even <em>one</em> Godless figure who’s doing half as much to challenge the demographic obliteration of this nation</strong>. Where are your atheist heroes, then? Who’s carrying the torch for the dispossessed Irish under your camp's watch?</p><p></p><p>Let’s call it what it is: the secular elite <em>runs the regime</em>, and they’re driving Ireland into the abyss with a bureaucratic grin and a rainbow pin. And instead of asking why your own ideological comrades are completely MIA in this existential fight, you’re playing Where’s Waldo with a ballot paper from 2015.</p><p></p><p>Tóibín, warts and all, at least has a spine. <strong>That’s more than can be said for the Godless crowd you refuse to name—because they don’t exist</strong>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tiger, post: 131722, member: 353"] What evidence do you have for this claim? It appears that now now we’ve resorted to [I]telepathic polling[/I] to determine how Tóibín voted in the privacy of the ballot box? Bravo—yet another psychic sleuth sniffing out “evidence” that doesn’t exist. There is no public record of Peadar Tóibín voting for same-sex marriage, and given that he walked away from a cushy Sinn Féin career [I]precisely[/I] because he wouldn’t budge on abortion, the idea that he suddenly had a Damascus Road conversion to rainbow theology is, frankly, hilarious. But more to the point—at no stage did I say Tóibín was some flawless icon of Catholic orthodoxy. I said he’s one of the [I]only[/I] public figures willing to utter even a peep about immigration while the rest of the political class sits in mute adoration of Brussels. That alone, however modest, sets him leagues ahead of your secular saints, who don’t even show up to the fight. It’s curious, isn’t it? You spend all your time sneering at “religious headcases” [B]while failing to offer even [I]one[/I] Godless figure who’s doing half as much to challenge the demographic obliteration of this nation[/B]. Where are your atheist heroes, then? Who’s carrying the torch for the dispossessed Irish under your camp's watch? Let’s call it what it is: the secular elite [I]runs the regime[/I], and they’re driving Ireland into the abyss with a bureaucratic grin and a rainbow pin. And instead of asking why your own ideological comrades are completely MIA in this existential fight, you’re playing Where’s Waldo with a ballot paper from 2015. Tóibín, warts and all, at least has a spine. [B]That’s more than can be said for the Godless crowd you refuse to name—because they don’t exist[/B]. [/QUOTE]
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