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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tiger" data-source="post: 131732" data-attributes="member: 353">I’m not even a particular fan of his, however just to be clear, is that crappy link to an Irish Times ‘table’ the full level of your evidence?So, you’ve posted an Irish Times table that lists Tóibín as both “yes” and “null.” The “null” likely means there was no clear declaration of his position at the time, not that he outright endorsed or rejected same-sex marriage. As far as I know, there’s no public statement from Tóibín actively supporting gay marriage. If you have any direct quotes or verifiable evidence of him endorsing it, I’d be happy to look into that.Now, stepping back to the larger issue—this discussion is symptomatic of a deeper problem.The real question here isn’t individual politicians' votes; it’s the vacuum created by the collapse of Catholic influence in Irish politics. When the Church's moral guidance receded, it opened the door for mass immigration, secularism, and globalism to shape Ireland’s future with very little resistance. This vacuum has been exploited by forces pushing an agenda that doesn’t serve the Irish people’s interests.</blockquote>

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