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<blockquote data-quote="Tiger" data-source="post: 131867" data-attributes="member: 353"><p>Grow up Myles, your question was hopeless and got lost in the back and forth with others.</p><p></p><p>Like some knacker in a council estate bookies, you blurted out some shite like - “every priest and bishop in Ireland supports mass immigration” line — a sweeping claim without a shred of evidence. Not a quote, not a document, not even a name. Just something you pulled from thin air and hoped would pass as gospel. That kind of argument wouldn’t pass muster in a pub debate, let alone serious discourse.</p><p></p><p>And even if some tracksuit wearing, fake mitre-wearing NGO clerics did mouth those lines, they don’t represent <strong>the Church</strong> in any meaningful sense — they represent what Belloc rightly feared: the Church hollowed out and worn like a skin-suit by those who serve Caesar, not Christ. You're not referring to the Mystical Body of Christ but to <strong>the Ape of the Church</strong>, the counterfeit, whose liturgy is PR statements and whose altar is the Brussels parliament.</p><p></p><p>In fact, as the <strong>OP rightly pointed out when it referred to our post Catholic era</strong>, it’s precisely this Ape — this twisted imitation — that has given rise to our <strong>post-Catholic Ireland</strong>, a husk of a nation where self-hatred festers, and spiritual vacancy has left us wide open to a managed replacement. Without the Faith, there is no resistance — just slogans about “compassion” as the country is spiritually and demographically disassembled.</p><p></p><p>And even if every phoney weak bishop in the land held hands and sang “We Are the World,” it wouldn’t change the fact that the actual <strong>Catholic tradition</strong>—from St. Thomas to Pius XII—teaches the duty to safeguard national identity and the common good, not surrender your homeland on the altar of guilt politics. They’ve spent a millennium defending the entirety of Europe from Muslim invaders.</p><p></p><p>So unless you’ve got a quote, a policy, or a bishop with legislative power—your argument boils down to: “<em>I think some men in costume robes might have parroted the UN, therefore open borders are Catholic’s fault…not those Godless politicians and NGO’s who are actually running the show…..for eh.....reasons and shit</em>"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tiger, post: 131867, member: 353"] Grow up Myles, your question was hopeless and got lost in the back and forth with others. Like some knacker in a council estate bookies, you blurted out some shite like - “every priest and bishop in Ireland supports mass immigration” line — a sweeping claim without a shred of evidence. Not a quote, not a document, not even a name. Just something you pulled from thin air and hoped would pass as gospel. That kind of argument wouldn’t pass muster in a pub debate, let alone serious discourse. And even if some tracksuit wearing, fake mitre-wearing NGO clerics did mouth those lines, they don’t represent [B]the Church[/B] in any meaningful sense — they represent what Belloc rightly feared: the Church hollowed out and worn like a skin-suit by those who serve Caesar, not Christ. You're not referring to the Mystical Body of Christ but to [B]the Ape of the Church[/B], the counterfeit, whose liturgy is PR statements and whose altar is the Brussels parliament. In fact, as the [B]OP rightly pointed out when it referred to our post Catholic era[/B], it’s precisely this Ape — this twisted imitation — that has given rise to our [B]post-Catholic Ireland[/B], a husk of a nation where self-hatred festers, and spiritual vacancy has left us wide open to a managed replacement. Without the Faith, there is no resistance — just slogans about “compassion” as the country is spiritually and demographically disassembled. And even if every phoney weak bishop in the land held hands and sang “We Are the World,” it wouldn’t change the fact that the actual [B]Catholic tradition[/B]—from St. Thomas to Pius XII—teaches the duty to safeguard national identity and the common good, not surrender your homeland on the altar of guilt politics. They’ve spent a millennium defending the entirety of Europe from Muslim invaders. So unless you’ve got a quote, a policy, or a bishop with legislative power—your argument boils down to: “[I]I think some men in costume robes might have parroted the UN, therefore open borders are Catholic’s fault…not those Godless politicians and NGO’s who are actually running the show…..for eh.....reasons and shit[/I]" [/QUOTE]
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